Scratch

kayybee wrote:

joshuaho wrote:

berberberber wrote:

I'm pretty sure this problem is resolved, considering you're the only one posting here anymore.

Me?

Yes.

Then if it is resolved, I recommend closing it, but it is up to the creator of this topic.

Etellex wrote:

I think the ST has a program to test if any scripts were moved or altered, and if that's the case, yes, it was a copy and the person who copied it is a bad scratcher, here's what probably happened:

They download your original work

They change one pixel on one sprite

The ST runs program

The program says it's a "remix"

You don't get the credit you deserve.

I must say this is not certain, but the ST would be smart to do this, and considering their programming skills, they probably did.

cheddargirl wrote:

joshuaho wrote:

jvvg wrote:

That's a whole different story. That is an actual uncredited copy, which you should flag (and the ST will remove). However, if the "Based on" link is there, then it's acceptable to use someone else's project and make as few changes as you want.

But a little amount of change is not ok too. That is said in the wiki.
http://wiki.scratch.mit.edu/wiki/Project_Copying

It depends on the change itself, and that is up for the ST to decided if the change is significant, not up to the flagger.

Sometimes, the change might be so small that it would be hard to tell just at a glance. But that's why the ST has a Remix Comparer tool that tell us what part of the project got changed, including sprites, code, music, and costumes. Exact copies show up with zero changes, project with edits in them will show what blocks got added and/or removed, what costume or music got changed, and any sprites that were added and/or removed. I'm quite surprised you haven't used it before flagging the project as a copy, it's mentioned on the Scratch wiki link you mentioned earlier.

It also shows how much is changed, but I'm not sure if it can detect things like pixel changes or simple script reorderings.

Hyperbola wrote:

Etellex wrote:

I think the ST has a program to test if any scripts were moved or altered, and if that's the case, yes, it was a copy and the person who copied it is a bad scratcher, here's what probably happened:

They download your original work

They change one pixel on one sprite

The ST runs program

The program says it's a "remix"

You don't get the credit you deserve.

I must say this is not certain, but the ST would be smart to do this, and considering their programming skills, they probably did.

cheddargirl wrote:

joshuaho wrote:

But a little amount of change is not ok too. That is said in the wiki.
http://wiki.scratch.mit.edu/wiki/Project_Copying

It depends on the change itself, and that is up for the ST to decided if the change is significant, not up to the flagger.

Sometimes, the change might be so small that it would be hard to tell just at a glance. But that's why the ST has a Remix Comparer tool that tell us what part of the project got changed, including sprites, code, music, and costumes. Exact copies show up with zero changes, project with edits in them will show what blocks got added and/or removed, what costume or music got changed, and any sprites that were added and/or removed. I'm quite surprised you haven't used it before flagging the project as a copy, it's mentioned on the Scratch wiki link you mentioned earlier.

It also shows how much is changed, but I'm not sure if it can detect things like pixel changes or simple script reorderings.

Actually, it can.

The remix comparer tool shows if there was a costume edit. It also tells what blocks got added and what blocks got removed in a script.

cheddargirl wrote:

Hyperbola wrote:

Etellex wrote:

I think the ST has a program to test if any scripts were moved or altered, and if that's the case, yes, it was a copy and the person who copied it is a bad scratcher, here's what probably happened:

They download your original work

They change one pixel on one sprite

The ST runs program

The program says it's a "remix"

You don't get the credit you deserve.

I must say this is not certain, but the ST would be smart to do this, and considering their programming skills, they probably did.

cheddargirl wrote:

It depends on the change itself, and that is up for the ST to decided if the change is significant, not up to the flagger.

Sometimes, the change might be so small that it would be hard to tell just at a glance. But that's why the ST has a Remix Comparer tool that tell us what part of the project got changed, including sprites, code, music, and costumes. Exact copies show up with zero changes, project with edits in them will show what blocks got added and/or removed, what costume or music got changed, and any sprites that were added and/or removed. I'm quite surprised you haven't used it before flagging the project as a copy, it's mentioned on the Scratch wiki link you mentioned earlier.

It also shows how much is changed, but I'm not sure if it can detect things like pixel changes or simple script reorderings.

Actually, it can.

The remix comparer tool shows if there was a costume edit. It also tells what blocks got added and what blocks got removed in a script.

I saw the remix. I flagged it and I got the same message.

He copied alot of projects and one of them got front-paged. HOW DOES HE GET AWAY WITH THIS????????????????

berberberber wrote:

I'm pretty sure this problem is resolved, considering you're the only one posting here anymore.

Actually, no, I'm not the only one posting here.