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Are Green Day and Ramones considered punk?

mythbusteranimator wrote:

Are Green Day and Ramones considered punk?

Green Day is usually like pop punk, but the Ramones especially are PURE PUNK

my sister is doing green day for her dance recital

how funny would it be if they chose american idiot

parents would rebel

resistance wrote:

Green Day and Blink-182 are my favorite punk bands

I'm a fan of both Green Day and Blink-182! Although I can listen to Green Day's entire library of music and enjoy it but when I listen to Blink-182 I'm really only interested in their first three releases (Cheshire Cat, Dude Ranch, Enema of the State)

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The Offspring Smash 1994, Epitaph Records

Credits
Dexter Holland Vocals, rhythm guitar
Noodles Lead guitar, backing vocals
Greg. K Bass, backing vocals
Ron Welty Drums

Ask any random person about the Offspring and they might tell you something about Pretty Fly (For a White Guy) or maybe even Why Don't You Get A Job? but these people don't know what they're talking about because Smash is the Offspring's highest point in their lengthy career. The songs are catchy yet they don't lack that punk-rock agressiveness that most 'pop' punk bands are not paying attention to.
If Green Day's Dookie was more about songwriting and melody then Smash is all about brash, loud, punk anthems that would spit in the face of the despicable Good Charlotte. The album also slid in perfectly with Epitaph's roster of punk lineups such as Bad Religion and NOFX[/b]. While not only being popular on the punk scene (where the Offspring had previously gained some fans thanks to their second record, Ignition) singles Come Out And Play and Self Esteem helped the Offspring grasp the mainstream. This was essential to helping the punk culture taking over stadiums, MTV and the bedrooms of teenagers all over the world.

Standout Tracks

Self Esteem
Probably the most popular track from Smash was this hit single about low confidence, something many teenagers could connect to (in a similar fashion to Green Day's Longview) and also received the highest amount of airplay of all of Smash's singles

Come Out And Play
Another hit single, Come Out And Play sounded a bit like a dig at something slightly Nirvana-influenced and it rocked hard! Themes such as fighting in schools and kids getting "weapons with ease". Songs like this are a reminder of how the Offspring got their name, they're a megaphone, projecting what the youth of today are experiencing

Genocide
Probably the most popular track other than the lead singles, Genocide was a blast to hear live and really projected the energy that The Offspring could display on a stage. The riff appeared countless times after this song's release including as a hidden, unfinshed track on 'Smash' (Track 14) and as a full song titled 'Change the World' on Ixnay on the Hombre


VERDICT
This album is an easy five stars as it's a complete classic and a must have for any 90s alt. rock or punk fans. If you haven't heard this, you're missing out on one of the most solid punk rock experiences out there.



Previous Album Ignition (1992)
Next Album Ixnay on the Hombre (1997)

Last edited by MasterOfTheGames (2013-02-21 04:12:44)

I have always been a fan of Green Day since... um... I don't even remember my own childhood much.    I like their older stuff most.

Not a formal review, but here


Here's an album I like that is very good and also yes
It is called "Frankenchrist" and is by Dead Kennedys


Some of my favorite tracksies:

Jock-O-Rama
I like this track a lot. It's got a nice fast groove, and it's a cool dig at the glorification of sports and sports culture in society today. I like it b/c I don't really like sports/what they stand for

M.T.V. - Get off the Air
Another one I like not only for the great music, but also for the message. It's a great rallying cry against music execs who are only focused on profits

Stars and Stripes of Corruption
A wonderful, classic, left-wing political Dead Kennedys anthem


CAUTION on most of the lyrics on these tracks. You have been warned.

veggieman001 wrote:

I have a Dead Kennedys album called Plastic Surgery Disasters and it's alright.

Is it the version that comes with the In God We Trust, Inc. EP?

I've been meaning to get more into Dead Kennedys's discography, because Frankenchrist is currently the only album I own.

Blink-182 Cheshire Cat 1994, Cargo Music

Credits
Mark Hoppus Vocals, Bass
Tom DeLonge Vocals, Guitar
Scott Raynor Drums


Blink-182 has grown a lot since this 1994 debut album. If you were to compare this release to their latest (and possibly a bit underwhelming) album, Neighborhoodsthen it wouldn't be hard to say things like "They can't sing" or "They suck at guitar" and you'd be right to say similar things, but this is how Blink-182 should sound, goofy and with a immature sense of humour. It's as if recently, they've been taking themselves a bit too seriously. Nevertheless, if you want to find Blink-182's roots and listen to one of the most stupid and hilarious little albums out there, you can't go much further than Cheshire Cat. When Cheshire Cat was released two singles were produced for promotion. These singles were M+M's and Wasting Time. Both of these songs, had they appered on later albums such as Dude Ranch or Enema of the State would've become huge hits and they're definitly the most well-written tracks on the album.


Standout Tracks


M+M's
With a great guitar and clever, funny lyrics, this is probably the best (and my favourite) track on the entire album. It's a track that begging to be performed live more frequently by Blink-182 as it's more catchy and fun to play that most of their other songs in their library (with the possible exception of * or Josie)

Wasting Time
This one's very typical Blink-182 stuff and any fans of All The Small Things or any of those other Enema of the State tracks will feel right at home here. This one pretty much laid down the template for every Blink-182 love song ever and it's a blast to listen to!

Depends
This one's less of an enjoyable song but more an example for how stupid the boys can possibly get. With mindless lyrics and an odd spoken outro this one just proves that Blink-182 are the perfect band for any one who is in their teens and still finds toilet humour utterly hilarious

VERDICT
If you're a fan of modern day Blink-182 I reckon you'll enjoy this as much as TOYPAJ or any other of their recent releases. You'll be able to find the CD (or cassette if that's your thing) in the bargain bins nowadays so go out and give this one a spin!


Previous album Buddha (Demo) (1994)
Next album Dude Ranch (1997)