Scratch

kayybee wrote:

BLU_Spy wrote:

ImagineIt wrote:

How so?

1- Most of the changes won't really affect me. (The only one that I really like is that we can upload more than 10mb.)
2- I'm already used to the 1.4 design.
3- I don't really like Vectors.
4- The forums will have to be reset in 2.0. 
5- The new version has too many bugs. (But I'm sure they'll fix them...)
6- In 2.0, The quality of my Gmod screenshots doesn't get higher at all.
7- I simply love 1.4. What can I do? 

1: The changes will affect many others. Especially the cloud variables and cloning, making education with Scratch much more effective.
2: The 2.0 design just has the stage on the left and the scripts on the right. Did you think you weren't going to be able to find the stage or something?
3: Then import your own graphics. The Scratch paint editor was never meant for making "good" graphics anyway.
4:  So? Just remake the topics you want. Were you hoping to keep your post count? That's insignificant anyways, don't expect to use that as a bragging right.
5: No... I think they'll keep the bugs there forever. The reason why there's still bugs is because they wanted to reveal the beta earlier to satisfy all those hungry Scratchers who are actually eager to use the new version. And so they can have more people find bugs. If you don't want to use a glitchy version, just stick to 1.4 and pretend 2.0 beta was never public. Just switch when you have to, which is when there'll be significantly less bugs.
6: Maybe they'll increase the screen size. Maybe you should tell them about that. Try zooming in and see if the resolution is bad when zooming in.
7: You can start loving 2.0 since it's better.

1: Still, it won't affect me. Yes, sure it'll be better for a LOT of people, but not for me.
2: I still prefer 1.4 design... I'm already used to it.
3: They could at least let you choose between bitmap and vectors.
4: I don't really like the fact that we'll have to start over... 
5: I'll wait until those bugs get fixed then.
6: ... Maybe...
7: Well, that's your opinion. To me, 1.4 is still better than 2.0. 

Last edited by BLU_Spy (2013-02-17 09:47:10)

LeDerpy123 wrote:

my account wasnt switched over even thiugh i made it before the 26th    i cant save comment remix or anything:(

You made it ON the 26th, it means anything BEFORE the 26th.

dudes , you have to live on , for example , you can't do your fun parts of your life again , move on.

I think 2.0 is actually confusing. Plus I'm REALLY used to the current Scratch website.

Mokat wrote:

PonyPokiPanikku wrote:

I think 2.0 is actually confusing. Plus I'm REALLY used to the current Scratch website.

I'm already used to the 2.0 site. You'll get used to it in time.

i have the slowest of internet (slower than you could believe (i cant even watch a youtube vid in 240p without it rebuffering every 10 seconds (not an exaderation))) and 2.0 site is insanley slow on it. it actually once took 3 MINUTES to load a project page, and THEN the project itself. i really hope they keep the style of 1.4 site.

PS: upgrading to faster internet is not a solution for  me. apparently, att thinks i live in a "rural" area which means they dont offer hi speed internet where i live.

LeDerpy123 wrote:

Mokat wrote:

PonyPokiPanikku wrote:

I think 2.0 is actually confusing. Plus I'm REALLY used to the current Scratch website.

I'm already used to the 2.0 site. You'll get used to it in time.

i have the slowest of internet (slower than you could believe (i cant even watch a youtube vid in 240p without it rebuffering every 10 seconds (not an exaderation))) and 2.0 site is insanley slow on it. it actually once took 3 MINUTES to load a project page, and THEN the project itself. i really hope they keep the style of 1.4 site.

PS: upgrading to faster internet is not a solution for  me. apparently, att thinks i live in a "rural" area which means they dont offer hi speed internet where i live.

^^^
See, guys? This is a REAL problem with it. Maybe the page loading time is too long for him. That would be a problem, not "I LOVE SCRATCH 1.4 AND IM STUBBORN SO I DON'T WANT 2.0!!!"


Everything that has been complained about before is just preference, which technically is your own fault.

I'm not criticising you, just saying that this is preference, so essentially your arguing my point and then saying the same thing.

All of your reasons don't apply to me, but the lone about slow Internet would affect me if I had the same Internet speed as him.

And I don't think you guys should continue saying "Scratch 1.4 stay!" because the Scratch Team put a lot of effort into it FOR us so we can enjoy scratch more. You should appreciate the new version of Scratch.

Again, for the "stubborn" thing, that's your own fault. Your connotation of stubborn may be negative, but stubborn just means unwilling to change. Essentially, you are unwilling to change, so.
It's just like when people call me a nerd or stuff. Most people think its bad, but it just means you're hard working and studious. I think that's good.
Perhaps being stubborn is good. It shows you truly believe in something. It doesn't always refer to pouty little kids.

I was noticing where this was heading and I'd like to warn you all not to get into a Flame War.

lalala3 wrote:

kayybee wrote:

I'm not criticising you, just saying that this is preference, so essentially your arguing my point and then saying the same thing.

All of your reasons don't apply to me, but the lone about slow Internet would affect me if I had the same Internet speed as him.

And I don't think you guys should continue saying "Scratch 1.4 stay!" because the Scratch Team put a lot of effort into it FOR us so we can enjoy scratch more. You should appreciate the new version of Scratch.

Again, for the "stubborn" thing, that's your own fault. Your connotation of stubborn may be negative, but stubborn just means unwilling to change. Essentially, you are unwilling to change, so.
It's just like when people call me a nerd or stuff. Most people think its bad, but it just means you're hard working and studious. I think that's good.
Perhaps being stubborn is good. It shows you truly believe in something. It doesn't always refer to pouty little kids.

"Fault" would not be the right word to use. It's an opinion, a preference, not a crime. That's like attacking somebody for liking a different color than you do. Their own problem, maybe, but not fault.

Okay, how about "cause"?
And "fault" doesn't really have to be bad, it's just the cause/reason.

kayybee wrote:

LeDerpy123 wrote:

Mokat wrote:

I'm already used to the 2.0 site. You'll get used to it in time.

i have the slowest of internet (slower than you could believe (i cant even watch a youtube vid in 240p without it rebuffering every 10 seconds (not an exaderation))) and 2.0 site is insanley slow on it. it actually once took 3 MINUTES to load a project page, and THEN the project itself. i really hope they keep the style of 1.4 site.

PS: upgrading to faster internet is not a solution for  me. apparently, att thinks i live in a "rural" area which means they dont offer hi speed internet where i live.

^^^
See, guys? This is a REAL problem with it. Maybe the page loading time is too long for him. That would be a problem, not "I LOVE SCRATCH 1.4 AND IM STUBBORN SO I DON'T WANT 2.0!!!"


Everything that has been complained about before is just preference, which technically is your own fault.

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Thank you so much!!! Most people say "shut up" or "deal with it" or "i don't care". Yeah, the 2.0 site is terrible on my home network, while the 1.4 site takes about 3 seconds to load a page (which is faster than most sites I use)  and I love it! I don't get what takes so long with the 2.0 website. I just took a speed test: Ping: 138 ms (whatever that means) Download: 0.26 mbps (terrible) Upload: 0.1 mbps (it takes forever to upload projects). Please keep the 1.4 website because I know there are (at least a few) people that are having the exact same problem I am having!!!!

LeDerpy123 wrote:

Mokat wrote:

PonyPokiPanikku wrote:

I think 2.0 is actually confusing. Plus I'm REALLY used to the current Scratch website.

I'm already used to the 2.0 site. You'll get used to it in time.

i have the slowest of internet (slower than you could believe (i cant even watch a youtube vid in 240p without it rebuffering every 10 seconds (not an exaderation))) and 2.0 site is insanley slow on it. it actually once took 3 MINUTES to load a project page, and THEN the project itself. i really hope they keep the style of 1.4 site.

PS: upgrading to faster internet is not a solution for  me. apparently, att thinks i live in a "rural" area which means they dont offer hi speed internet where i live.

It'll probably be faster when the ST transfers to 2.0, because right now, both sites (for me) are slow since they have to divide up their servers between the two sites. When the 2.0 site gets all of the servers, then it'll be much faster. And, everyone's all like OMG 2.0!!!!! and everyone wants to check it out, so the poor servers have a LOT to handle. Maybe switching to the Mobile version of the site (even though it's ugly imo) will help. But the ST isn't going to keep this site just so that the small amount of people with slow internet don't have to be patient and wait for the projects to load. And you should be greatful that you even have internet. A lot of people don't.

And @ the rest of the people who are like "WE WANT 1.4!!!":
The ST is going to switch to 2.0 no matter what. There's gonna be an archive of the 1.4 site, but the ST's worked SUPER hard on 2.0 to please the people who ACTUALLY want 2.0 to come. If you don't want 2.0, I would suggest that you just quit.

Okay, I admit. I was mad when I posted those replies...

I guess I‘m judging the book by its cover. 2.0 isn‘t finished yet...

Sorry about that. :S