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#1 2008-08-08 09:03:01
Scratch/Flash
I realize that there has been a lot of discusion previously about this, but I think that Scratch files should be capable of being exported as Flash files. At the very least, I think that someone, somewhere, should create a converter program. I would set to the task at this very moment myself if I only knew how.
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#2 2008-08-08 11:41:27
Re: Scratch/Flash
The problem is that while Scratch and Flash Actionscript are both object-oriented (some purists call Scratch object-featuring, but let's not get into that), Scratch and Flash use completely different ways of running and looping code. For instance, each animation you see in a game can have further animations inside that, and code inside each of those nested objects. Another issue is this. Like regular animation, Flash uses "frames" to place content in. Many Flash games have only a few frames in the main part of the file because the game is kept in a single frame, with all the code executing every time the frame is entered, then sending the movie back to the same frame. A Scratch>Flash converter would need to be able to recognize when a new frame is needed to accommodate different content.
On the other hand, a way to translate code could probably be done quite easily, but you're (probably) better off learning ActionScript. Why would you want to convert Scratch to Flash anyway? They fullfill mostly the same functions.
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#3 2008-08-08 12:33:02
Re: Scratch/Flash
But flash files are not open source. One of the key features is the ability to download projects to look at the code.
Hi, I am Archmage coder extraordinaire. I do Scratch,pascal,java,php,html, AS2 and AS3. Leave me a message if you want coding advice. Also check out my personal website, lots of good stuff about web development, Flash, and Scratch (v1 and v2) !
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#4 2008-08-12 19:18:15
- relyt12101
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Re: Scratch/Flash
There are some Scratch --> EXE converters/'compilers' out there though - Jen's EXEScratch (http://www.chirp.scratchr.org/scratch2exe.html) and S65's Scratch2EXE (http://scratch.mit.edu/forums/viewtopic.php?id=4232).
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#5 2010-02-25 17:04:58
- pumacat4000
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Re: Scratch/Flash
i want to learn how to turn scratch files to flash files because i want to be able to upload a game i made to other sites, or possibly play it on a computer without the scratch program.
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#6 2010-02-25 21:07:59
Re: Scratch/Flash
pumacat4000 wrote:
i want to learn how to turn scratch files to flash files because i want to be able to upload a game i made to other sites, or possibly play it on a computer without the scratch program.
Don't necropost - This topic hasn't been posted in for 1.5 years.
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#7 2010-02-26 11:12:13
- juststickman
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Re: Scratch/Flash
There is a converter somewhere, but it's incomplete.
Here's what a lot of people would say: get flash and learn how to use it.
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#8 2010-02-26 12:35:49
Re: Scratch/Flash
No, there was never a flash converter, only a player.
.sb files will never be standalone I think. They will always require to be played though some sort of player. This means you can't upload a scratch program directly to a website that only plays flash or java games.
Hi, I am Archmage coder extraordinaire. I do Scratch,pascal,java,php,html, AS2 and AS3. Leave me a message if you want coding advice. Also check out my personal website, lots of good stuff about web development, Flash, and Scratch (v1 and v2) !
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#10 2010-04-21 14:20:50
- Stickman704
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Re: Scratch/Flash
zephan11 wrote:
is there any way to use scratch to make iphone games? i know iphone doesnt use flash, but flash can be converted into other stuff... right?
my plan:
scratch -> flash -> java -> iphone yay!
will that work?
Probably. Try postin a fourm about it... though a believe there is already a sticky.
um this was from 1923.
Dun dun dun dun dun dun.... dun dun dun dun dun dun...
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#11 2010-04-22 04:25:01
Re: Scratch/Flash
zephan11 wrote:
my plan:
scratch -> flash -> java -> iphone yay!
will that work?
Well, why not Scratch -> Smalltalk -> Scheme -> Java -> Flash -> JavaScript -> iPhone?
I like simple solutions... :-)
Note: Java won't work (officially) on iPhone either.
Actually, you can't distribute an iPhone application allowing programming, Apple is against that, as it would relax their iron hand controlling what programs go on this platform.
The only exception is JavaScript, they had to let it go since it is so pervasive already on Internet.
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#12 2010-04-25 09:39:48
- juststickman
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Re: Scratch/Flash
zephan11 wrote:
is there any way to use scratch to make iphone games? i know iphone doesnt use flash, but flash can be converted into other stuff... right?
my plan:
scratch -> flash -> java -> iphone yay!
will that work?
Nope. Apple went crazy and banned interpreters.
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#13 2012-07-19 15:44:06
- gabriel1924
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Re: Scratch/Flash
There Iz A Flash And Jave 4 Iphone Cloud Browser
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#14 2012-07-19 15:54:33
- Firedrake969
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Re: Scratch/Flash
Don't necropost.
Click the sign.
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#16 2013-02-10 19:11:00
Re: Scratch/Flash
Stickman704 wrote:
zephan11 wrote:
is there any way to use scratch to make iphone games? i know iphone doesnt use flash, but flash can be converted into other stuff... right?
my plan:
scratch -> flash -> java -> iphone yay!
will that work?Probably. Try postin a fourm about it... though a believe there is already a sticky.
um this was from 1923.
u cant convert flash to java...
but u can run flash trough java 
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#17 2013-02-10 19:27:24
Re: Scratch/Flash
dummheit wrote:
Stickman704 wrote:
zephan11 wrote:
is there any way to use scratch to make iphone games? i know iphone doesnt use flash, but flash can be converted into other stuff... right?
my plan:
scratch -> flash -> java -> iphone yay!
will that work?Probably. Try postin a fourm about it... though a believe there is already a sticky.
um this was from 1923.u cant convert flash to java...
but u can run flash trough java
Don't necropost, please.
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#19 2013-02-10 20:37:46
- Paddle2See
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Re: Scratch/Flash
Now that Scratch runs in Flash...there probably isn't any point to keeping this open any more.
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