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#1 2013-01-19 10:37:56

dechan
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Scratch Forums seems like an MMO, anyone else get that feeling?

Anyone else get that "Scratch Forums == MMO" feeling sometimes?

I stopped playing an MMO in favor of programming with Scratch (mentally much healthier and financially friendly too especially time-wise) only to find myself feeling the same patterns of behavior/social grouping here.

BTW...not sharing what that MMO was.

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#2 2013-01-19 12:29:02

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Re: Scratch Forums seems like an MMO, anyone else get that feeling?

I don't see how these forums are similar to an MMO...  hmm

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#3 2013-01-19 13:01:44

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Re: Scratch Forums seems like an MMO, anyone else get that feeling?

kayybee wrote:

I don't see how these forums are similar to an MMO...  hmm


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#4 2013-01-19 13:56:58

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Re: Scratch Forums seems like an MMO, anyone else get that feeling?

what do you expect? mmo's and forums are both gatherings of a bunch of people. of course it's going to "feel" the same.


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#5 2013-01-19 14:01:47

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Re: Scratch Forums seems like an MMO, anyone else get that feeling?

And with over a million users, of course it's gonna be big-seeming.


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#6 2013-01-20 03:13:00

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Re: Scratch Forums seems like an MMO, anyone else get that feeling?

Wes64 wrote:

what do you expect? mmo's and forums are both gatherings of a bunch of people. of course it's going to "feel" the same.

For years I've been an implementer of forums and databases and all the trappings which go with them (thank you Scratch Team for doing this) so I was far too busy to even want to participate in a forum of any kind--they were just too much like work.
So instead of being on forums I was playing an MMO for recreation. Recently I've stopped playing MMO's and this is the first forum I've frequented in nearly 7 years. After reading many posts/following threads I had a serious "oh, feels like an MMO" moment, so I shared the epiphany.

So what does Scratch Forums and MMO's have in common player-wise?
-A lot of new people asking for help (completely understandable) in a forum associated with an educational programming environment.
-A lot of people who just want other people to do things for them ("just give me a fish!")
-A lot of experienced people who haven't had their altruism completely fished dry--yet ("sure, here's that fish")
-A lot of experienced people who would rather not just give someone the answer("I can teach you to fish...")
-Possibly a fair number of people who are just making things they like and learning the limits and work-arounds in Scratch ("too busy breeding fish, you're welcome to look at them though, you can use these to make your own but I'm not tech-support and I'm to busy to comment, good luck!")
-I've seen a lot of "Me Too!"-ers. That can't be helped sometimes. ("Add your face to my fish and don't forget to click Love-it!") Imitiation, flattery, or just reinventory-idolatry, it's all good as long as someone is learning something.
-Thankfully I haven't run into any creepers; it's probably because I'm a guy and not role-playing as a girl ("Oh I hear you like fish...heh heh").

And I know there's the "Deep Ones"...those Scratchers who came before most, made artful works and custom blocks and only return on occasion to sample the fish and marvel at the epic pagination in their MyStuff project/gallery lists. Cthonic, possibly.

Please keep in mind that "a lot" is just a lazy opinion phrase. It's mostly harmless unless you're using it to justify a budget.  big_smile

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#7 2013-01-20 11:14:25

dechan
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Re: Scratch Forums seems like an MMO, anyone else get that feeling?

Forgot to add one of the most MMO-like parallels, Alternate Accounts.
Just read several posts where  posters were identifying the OP as their Alt  smile
That's a HUGE part of MMO's. I've had so many "Huh?!" moments when some previously unknown person would come up to me in an MMO and say, "Hi, this is my alt! Guess who I am?!"

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#8 2013-01-20 17:18:40

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Re: Scratch Forums seems like an MMO, anyone else get that feeling?

I suppose it's because both an MMO and Scratch are social websites (as someone else mentioned), where people work toward a more or less common goal. In MMOs it's perhaps building the best character, completing the game's story or having the most fishes ( tongue ), and here in Scratch, people work to learn programming, and/or achieve popularity by getting their projects on the front page.


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#9 2013-01-20 17:29:07

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Re: Scratch Forums seems like an MMO, anyone else get that feeling?

If you don't like the Forums, then don't go on them.


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#10 2013-01-20 20:01:00

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Re: Scratch Forums seems like an MMO, anyone else get that feeling?

i see your point but i don't know why it's necessary to point this out. is it bad? should something be done?


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#11 2013-01-20 20:02:31

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Re: Scratch Forums seems like an MMO, anyone else get that feeling?

A few more similarities:
Scheduled and Unscheduled maintenance.  big_smile 
Before I had to go to work today the site was down, lol.

And I hope nobody thinks I'm being angry/unhappy with Scratch, Forums, or MMO's as I'm only sharing observations which may not have been obvious to others.

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#12 2013-01-20 22:59:21

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Re: Scratch Forums seems like an MMO, anyone else get that feeling?

Well these things can happen on any forum really.

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#13 2013-01-20 23:21:42

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Re: Scratch Forums seems like an MMO, anyone else get that feeling?

dechan wrote:

A few more similarities:
Scheduled and Unscheduled maintenance.  big_smile 
Before I had to go to work today the site was down, lol.

And I hope nobody thinks I'm being angry/unhappy with Scratch, Forums, or MMO's as I'm only sharing observations which may not have been obvious to others.

Sometimes emergency maintenance is nessecary, and sometimes it can't be helped (like that time when there was the power outage in Cambridge)


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#14 2013-01-21 01:07:09

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Re: Scratch Forums seems like an MMO, anyone else get that feeling?

ImagineIt wrote:

Well these things can happen on any forum really.


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#15 2013-01-22 19:16:33

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Re: Scratch Forums seems like an MMO, anyone else get that feeling?

BlackKyurem wrote:

ImagineIt wrote:

Well these things can happen on any forum really.


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#16 2013-01-28 17:45:58

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Re: Scratch Forums seems like an MMO, anyone else get that feeling?

Another MMO parallel:  Collabs == Guilds
After reading some of those threads I was having flashbacks to all the guild recruitment moments I endured.  big_smile

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#17 2013-01-28 23:38:13

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Re: Scratch Forums seems like an MMO, anyone else get that feeling?

dechan wrote:

Another MMO parallel:  Collabs == Guilds
After reading some of those threads I was having flashbacks to all the guild recruitment moments I endured.  big_smile

And our goals:
Education=/=Entertainment

There are some great differences too.

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#18 2013-01-29 01:31:10

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Re: Scratch Forums seems like an MMO, anyone else get that feeling?

Yeah , this is quite similar to a MMO , althought I don't see your real connection...


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#19 2013-02-05 18:16:13

dechan
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Re: Scratch Forums seems like an MMO, anyone else get that feeling?

soniku3 wrote:

Yeah , this is quite similar to a MMO , althought I don't see your real connection...

How about the number of people who have a bad time b/c someone said/did something they didn't like and then they scream about quitting (even after having invested 1000's of hours and hundreds of $$$ in a game), and then after they rage-quit a few days they're back.  smile

I've seen that happen a lot in MMO's.
Probably happens here too, I just haven't read enough posts.   big_smile

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#20 2013-02-05 18:55:36

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Re: Scratch Forums seems like an MMO, anyone else get that feeling?

It used to happen but I hope that fad's passed. And if you don't like the fourms, don't post and especially don't rant about it.


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#21 2013-02-05 21:25:21

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Re: Scratch Forums seems like an MMO, anyone else get that feeling?

Mokat wrote:

It used to happen but I hope that fad's passed. And if you don't like the fourms, don't post and especially don't rant about it.

I had no idea there was a "I'm quitting!" fad here. In MMO's it's usually what younger players do to get attention; it actually works in some circumstances which is why some people still do it when they're older.

This is a marvelously neutral thread that anyone could have fun with if they're observant.

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