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BlueMockingBird · 2013-01-20 18:15:30

I am here to politely (without ranting or using caps lock) complain about the level of the scripts/codes on the featured list.

Please read- this might be a way to improve the site by another level!

I believe that for a program to be featured, it needs to be created in a way that would make the PROGRAM and coding itself unique and compiled in a way that would make it so (not only artwork).

For example, take the latest featured project, "The Adventures of Abstract: The Missing Panda!"

Being a competent artist and an art fan myself, I thought the project would have taken great time and effort to make so many sprites, but I believe that the front page should not be based on artwork- it should be based on coding. (But don't take it off the featured list, I'm not here to disappoint people who have already been on the list- only to inform.)

I believe that good coding are programs that display an exemplary use of other algorithms, equations and formulas such as gravity, or using efficient coding so that the program doesn't eat up memory, with an excellent use of graphics and gravity that have minimal bugs.

HOWEVER: (pardon my caps lock, wanted to get the attention here-)

If we delete these codes off the front page, the young people just starting off will get uninspired and leave, therefore destroying the meaning of this programming language- to be an introductory lesson to kids who may do other advanced programming languages in the future.

To solve this problem:

I believe that we should have several sections for featured programs, all at the top- some for programs that are heavy on artwork and some that are based on coding. That way, the users of this site who use it for artwork can have a fair share of their featured programs, and people who focus on coding and games can have another fair share of the site.

The only thing that I ask for is:
-that the people who feature think before featuring, and
-that they would include programs that are also heavy on coding.

Please believe me, there are tons of programs that look like they have great coding out there.

Thanks for reading,
BlueMockingBird

P.S. I'm working on a program myself, called "DerpRacers." Haven't released it yet wink
Also working on Python and C++.

Wes64 · 2013-01-20 19:58:28

the scratch team tries to appeal to every demographic of scratch. not everyone is here to learn complex programming; scratch has evolved into a rather diverse community where art is just as important as anything else.

if you are dissatisfied with what's features i suggest you search for projects yourself; i have several galleries dedicated to collecting well-coded projects

kayybee · 2013-01-20 20:17:02

I think the best way to solve this problem by yourself is just to suggest "well coded projects" to be featured.

BlueMockingBird · 2013-01-21 03:58:42

kayybee wrote:
I think the best way to solve this problem by yourself is just to suggest "well coded projects" to be featured.

Looking in on that wink

Thanks for reading smile

Mokat · 2013-01-21 09:51:57

Yeah, I support. I saw one project (I'm not going to mention the name) that was just "Click on this thing and see some pictures!!!!" I could've made it in five minutes. And, I saw another project that was just a gif taken from another site put to some music. Plus, there's a lot better projects out there than some of the featured projects...

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cheddargirl · 2013-01-24 16:50:47

You can suggest project that you feel should be featured as kayybee pointed out, but keep in mind the Featured row is for showing off the diversity of projects on the Scratch website; projects that help to better show off this diversity of what can be made in Scratch are likely to get picked, regardless of the code complexity or the level of graphics inside of them.

bullelk12 · 2013-01-24 17:10:43

hmmm, you too eh. And besides, they rarely focus on good projects, poor job scratch team. Sorry.

Mokat · 2013-01-24 17:16:38

Is every project proposed featured? Cause it seems like it to me....(not nessecarialy a good thing)
And, diversity doesn't mean "feature bad projects that people could make in 5 seconds!!!"

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cheddargirl · 2013-01-24 20:18:08

Mokat wrote:
Is every project proposed featured? Cause it seems like it to me....(not nessecarialy a good thing)
And, diversity doesn't mean "feature bad projects that people could make in 5 seconds!!!"

No, not every project proposed is featured. ST members usually discuss a project to get featured next.

Diversity also doesn't mean "let's feature a complicate project that everyone makes frequently!" either.

cheddargirl · 2013-01-24 20:18:45

bullelk12 wrote:
hmmm, you too eh. And besides, they rarely focus on good projects, poor job scratch team. Sorry.

Oh well, not everyone will like what is featured, you're not being forced to look at it, just go look for something you do like, it's that's simple. hmm

lalala3 · 2013-01-25 14:29:23

cheddargirl wrote:
Mokat wrote:
Is every project proposed featured? Cause it seems like it to me....(not nessecarialy a good thing)
And, diversity doesn't mean "feature bad projects that people could make in 5 seconds!!!"
No, not every project proposed is featured. ST members usually discuss a project to get featured next.

Diversity also doesn't mean "let's feature a complicate project that everyone makes frequently!" either.

Better than featuring two-second nothing projects.

cheddargirl · 2013-01-25 17:37:51

lalala3 wrote:
cheddargirl wrote:
Mokat wrote:
Is every project proposed featured? Cause it seems like it to me....(not nessecarialy a good thing)
And, diversity doesn't mean "feature bad projects that people could make in 5 seconds!!!"
No, not every project proposed is featured. ST members usually discuss a project to get featured next.

Diversity also doesn't mean "let's feature a complicate project that everyone makes frequently!" either.
Better than featuring two-second nothing projects.

I disagree. A simple two-second project may reveal something about Scratch's diversity that a complicated project may not. The Scratch Team finds worth in featuring the projects that they do feature, projects aren't featured haphazardly. The website is diverse with people of different ages and backgrounds, it makes sense that the selection of featured projects will reflect that, and naturally not all the selections will please everyone. That being said, just because you don't see the value in a simple project being featured doesn't give you a right to bash them to almost near oblivion as you're doing right now.

Regardless of the channel (featured, remix, top-loved, curated), it's not nice to continually put down those on the front page based on your point-of-view on what you feel is good or not; doing so just places a stigma on those that get there and makes the website more unfriendly. If you don't like what's on there, just go search for something else instead of forcing others to bend-over-backwards top make the front page to fit your own point-of-view. hmm

Wes64 · 2013-01-25 20:32:19

bullelk12 wrote:
hmmm, you too eh. And besides, they rarely focus on good projects, poor job scratch team. Sorry.

you are saying this to the people who are, right now, working their butts off to provide you with FREE software, a FREE website, FREE help, FREE moderation, FREE everything. id say you owe them quite a lot.

technoguyx · 2013-01-26 10:32:40

Scratch is:

- A tool to express oneself's creativity: IMAGINE. Not everyone is obligated to make extremely complicated projects, not are those that don't considered worse.
- An introduction to programming, meant for absolute beginners: PROGRAM. Absolute beginners don't usually make such complicated projects.
- A social website built around the expression of one through Scratch projects: SHARE. Everyone is free to share his creations, be they a picture with some music or an 1s1s realtime raycast 3D engine. tongue

Scratch is a huge, diverse community and the whole front page demonstrates this. If you don't like it, the best you can do is doing your part to change it, and hope more people have your likenesses as well. The front page is an almost entirely democratic medium - the users themselves what gets to be Top Loved, Remixed and Viewed, and you can suggest projects to be Featured. Look in the info sticky in Show & Tell.

Wes64 wrote:
you are saying this to the people who are, right now, working their butts off to provide you with FREE software, a FREE website, FREE help, FREE moderation, FREE everything. id say you owe them quite a lot.

Also this. This so much.

Last edited by technoguyx (2013-01-26 10:33:03)

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