...slowly. I just made it to page 49 (out of around 1100), but so far I'm loving it. It's totally different from all the genres I've stuck to all my life (sic-fi, mainly ). What do other nerds think? Also, is it worth reading The Hobbit? Before LOTR? After?
[PS: I found this thread about LOTR, but it was about 6 moths old, so I started a new one, that's fine, right?]
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I just started re-reading for the eighth time. What's on page 49? I suppose that you might as well read the Hobbit. Then read LOTR again. It's interesting seeing all the references and effects of the Hobbit in the Lord of the Rings. After that, if you really like Middle-earth, you might want to try the Silmarillion, but it's incredibly hard to read through. It's basically a history book on Middle-earth (well, Arda. Arda is either the world/universe; Middle-earth is a continent where a bunch of important stuff happens).
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Eighth? …
I'm at the part where Gandalf and Frodo are talking about the powers of the Ring (how you just fade away… that bit's creepy). What's the storyline of The Hobbit? Is it before, after, or totally unrelated to LOTR?
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Hardmath123 wrote:
Eighth? …
I'm at the part where Gandalf and Frodo are talking about the powers of the Ring (how you just fade away… that bit's creepy). What's the storyline of The Hobbit? Is it before, after, or totally unrelated to LOTR?
Yeah. Eighth.
Huh, so am I. The Hobbit sort of related to the Lord of the Rings, but I'm not really sure. It's about Bilbo's adventure 60 years before the Lord of the Rings. There are several references to it (for example, it is mentioned that the fireworks at Bilbo's party had 'Dale' written on them; Dale was a fairly important town in the Hobbit), and also explains some of the events, especially early in the book. For example, the stone giants (or trolls; I get them mixed up) that you haven't read about yet.
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Hardmath123 wrote:
Eighth? …
I'm at the part where Gandalf and Frodo are talking about the powers of the Ring (how you just fade away… that bit's creepy). What's the storyline of The Hobbit? Is it before, after, or totally unrelated to LOTR?
Yes, the hobbit is definitely related to the Lord of the Rings. The Hobbit takes place before The Lord of the Rings and is about how Bilbo Baggins (Frodo Baggins' guardian) finds the one ring on a quest.
And on the topic, I've read The Hobbit and the first book of the Lord of the Rings; The Fellowship of the Ring. I'm going to start reading The Two Towers soon!
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I read LOTR also, I got all three books smashed into one. I read halfway to the Two Towers, then I started to watch the movies. The Hobbit is pretty good, its really easy to read and tells a great story.
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In my opinion, the Fellowship of the Ring was one of the slower books of the series. Lots of traveling and such. It's a great book though.
You should read the Hobbit, yes. It doesn't /really/ matter what order, but you may understand some more if you did it first? I can't think of any examples though.
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In my opinion, the Fellowship of the Ring was one of the slower books of the series. Lots of traveling and such. It's a great book though.
Really? I thought that it was pretty quickly paced for the Lord of the Rings following Frodo. The entire point of Frodo's stuff was traveling (sorta).
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Hardmath123 wrote:
...slowly. I just made it to page 49 (out of around 1100), but so far I'm loving it. It's totally different from all the genres I've stuck to all my life (sic-fi, mainly ). What do other nerds think? Also, is it worth reading The Hobbit? Before LOTR? After?Yes It's worth reading before because of getting in to understanding Middle-Earth's language I'm about 209-233 iLord of the Rings
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Hobbit first. LOTR after. LOTR is my favorite book series of all time, probably. It took me a while to get through them as well. I've reread them about 12-14 times.
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I finished the fellowship 2 days ago and am starting two towers tomorrow. I'd reccomend reading the hobbit, the order doesn't really matter, i'd definitly say it's much lighter and easier then the lotr
I prefer Bilbo to Frodo, as frodo always seems to get stabbed( wow that sounds really harsh ) or hit by a troll or something, while bilbo just get's on with it
When i was younger i really wanted legolas's hair
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My favorite book ever!!! Not only is Tolkien my favorite auther, but I have yet to read a book better then the Lord of the Rings or the Hobbit. The Hobbit is definately worth reading, and as you keep reading The Lord of the Rings, it just keeps getting better and better.
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Also, I've heard a lot of peaple say that The Hobbit is the prequall to The Lord of the Rings, but it's not. It may have some of the same charactors as lotr, and may take place before lotr, but it is it's completely own story. There are only two ways The Hobbit connects to lotr. Definately read The Hobbit, though it is a little easier then lotr, expecialy befor seeing the movie.
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dav99 wrote:
Also, I've heard a lot of peaple say that The Hobbit is the prequall to The Lord of the Rings, but it's not. It may have some of the same charactors as lotr, and may take place before lotr, but it is it's completely own story. There are only two ways The Hobbit connects to lotr. Definately read The Hobbit, though it is a little easier then lotr, expecialy befor seeing the movie.
Well, Gimli is the son of Gloin. And the ring is really important. And there is the Necromancer/Sauron in Dol Goldur. That's three ways, I think, other than the fact that it's set in the same world.
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Necromaster wrote:
dav99 wrote:
Also, I've heard a lot of peaple say that The Hobbit is the prequall to The Lord of the Rings, but it's not. It may have some of the same charactors as lotr, and may take place before lotr, but it is it's completely own story. There are only two ways The Hobbit connects to lotr. Definately read The Hobbit, though it is a little easier then lotr, expecialy befor seeing the movie.
Well, Gimli is the son of Gloin. And the ring is really important. And there is the Necromancer/Sauron in Dol Goldur. That's three ways, I think, other than the fact that it's set in the same world.
The Necromancer isn't even in the book, though...?
And I think there's lots of connections as well as the aforementioned, especially recurring characters (Gandalf, Bilbo, Elrond, Gollum).
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veggieman001 wrote:
Necromaster wrote:
dav99 wrote:
Also, I've heard a lot of peaple say that The Hobbit is the prequall to The Lord of the Rings, but it's not. It may have some of the same charactors as lotr, and may take place before lotr, but it is it's completely own story. There are only two ways The Hobbit connects to lotr. Definately read The Hobbit, though it is a little easier then lotr, expecialy befor seeing the movie.
Well, Gimli is the son of Gloin. And the ring is really important. And there is the Necromancer/Sauron in Dol Goldur. That's three ways, I think, other than the fact that it's set in the same world.
The Necromancer isn't even in the book, though...?
And I think there's lots of connections as well as the aforementioned, especially recurring characters (Gandalf, Bilbo, Elrond, Gollum).
Tolkien pretty much had the whole thing planned out from the start. He wrote The Hobbit with LOTR in mind, even though he did write The Hobbit first. So technically, it is not a prequel, LOTR is a sequel. :P
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banana500 wrote:
veggieman001 wrote:
Necromaster wrote:
Well, Gimli is the son of Gloin. And the ring is really important. And there is the Necromancer/Sauron in Dol Goldur. That's three ways, I think, other than the fact that it's set in the same world.
The Necromancer isn't even in the book, though...?
And I think there's lots of connections as well as the aforementioned, especially recurring characters (Gandalf, Bilbo, Elrond, Gollum).Tolkien pretty much had the whole thing planned out from the start. He wrote The Hobbit with LOTR in mind, even though he did write The Hobbit first. So technically, it is not a prequel, LOTR is a sequel.
I meant main things that connect. The Necromancer is mentioned in the Hobbit, when Gandalf explains why he was gone during part of the book. Though, the story of what happened to Gandalf with the Necromancer was not explained in the Hobbit, it will be in the movie. Lastly, The Lord of the Rings is not a sequel to the Hobbit because, again, they are completely original and different stories. I do agree with you, though, that the Hobbit was used to set up The Lord of the Rings.
-To banana500, veggieman001, and Necromaster
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i dont think the hobbit was used to set up lotr
i remember reading something where his publishers wanted a sequel to the hobbit so he made a couple of alterations to his mostly completed lotr trilogy/octology (i think he intended there to be like 8 books making up what we now know of as the trilogy. ive forgotten their individual names though)
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Mokat wrote:
Hardmath123 wrote:
What do other nerds think?
MEAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You're kidding, right? It's a compliment!
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I just finished the part where Frodo and company meet Mr. Maggot.
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I finished one and two in two days around Halloween and still haven't finished three. XD
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I like them
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