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#1 2013-01-06 23:29:16

Lew7898
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Registered: 2012-11-16
Posts: 33

Scratch Is Not A Real Programming Language!!!!!

THIS IS WHAT CODE SHOULD LOOK LIKE

'Code by Mezdux (Lewis Hayman)

Public Class Form1
    Private Sub Button1_1_Click(ByVal sender As System.Object, ByVal e As System.EventArgs)
        WebBrowser1.GoBack()

        If WebBrowser2.Visible = True Then
            WebBrowser2.GoBack()


        End If
    End Sub
    Private Sub Button2__1_Click(ByVal sender As System.Object, ByVal e As System.EventArgs)
        WebBrowser1.GoForward()
        If WebBrowser2.Visible = True Then
            WebBrowser2.GoForward()
        End If

NOT THIS

when gf clicked
repeat until <(timer) > [10]>
  go to [mouse-pointer v]
end
think [Visual Programming Sucks!] for (3) secs
I'm sorry, but Visual Programming like Scratch is just horrid.
Scratch is such a basic language and if it's all you know then you are not a real programmer.
On the other projects section, it's just [removed by moderator] minecraft servers and the ones about REAL programming languages like C#, C++, C, Objective-C and Visual Basic get no attention at all!

------------------PROGRAMMING MUST BE WRITTEN AND NOT DRAG AND DROP.--------------

Last edited by cheddargirl (2013-01-07 01:36:44)

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#2 2013-01-06 23:44:50

kayybee
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Registered: 2009-12-07
Posts: 1000+

Re: Scratch Is Not A Real Programming Language!!!!!

I'm pretty sure most of us are aware that scratch is not a programming language. however, you cannot expect kindergarteners to start writing java or C++. scratch teaches them basic programming concepts such as events, functions, variables, etc.

If you do not like scratch I suggest you leave.

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#3 2013-01-06 23:48:07

Lew7898
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Registered: 2012-11-16
Posts: 33

Re: Scratch Is Not A Real Programming Language!!!!!

If you want to learn basic concepts then learn Batch or Visual Basic or C#?

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#4 2013-01-06 23:51:36

kayybee
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Posts: 1000+

Re: Scratch Is Not A Real Programming Language!!!!!

Lew7898 wrote:

If you want to learn basic concepts then learn Batch or Visual Basic or C#?

there are too many rules to remember for a beginner about syntax, etc. scratch removes syntax problems so people can focus on learning the concepts.

however, I'm learning python which has syntax but not as complex as other languages.

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#5 2013-01-06 23:55:13

Lew7898
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Registered: 2012-11-16
Posts: 33

Re: Scratch Is Not A Real Programming Language!!!!!

I know Objective-C, C++, C, C#, Visual Basic, Batch, VBS AND JavaScript and i'm only 14.
Syntax Errors are a part of programming, if you expect to code and not have any then you will be very disappointed.

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#6 2013-01-06 23:56:15

kayybee
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Posts: 1000+

Re: Scratch Is Not A Real Programming Language!!!!!

Lew7898 wrote:

I know Objective-C, C++, C, C#, Visual Basic, Batch, VBS AND JavaScript and i'm only 14.
Syntax Errors are a part of programming, if you expect to code and not have any then you will be very disappointed.

okay. yes. lets tell the five year olds, who don't know what semicolons are, "you must put a semicolon at the end of each line"

great idea.



once scratchers learned what they should, they move on to other languages.

Last edited by kayybee (2013-01-06 23:57:38)

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#7 2013-01-06 23:58:36

Lew7898
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Registered: 2012-11-16
Posts: 33

Re: Scratch Is Not A Real Programming Language!!!!!

How old are you, may I ask?
And i'm on the scratch forums using a web browser I MADE MYSELF.
Are you questioning my programming abilities? I must ask you, what languages do you know?

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#8 2013-01-07 00:02:27

kayybee
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Registered: 2009-12-07
Posts: 1000+

Re: Scratch Is Not A Real Programming Language!!!!!

Lew7898 wrote:

How old are you, may I ask?
And i'm on the scratch forums using a web browser I MADE MYSELF.
Are you questioning my programming abilities? I must ask you, what languages do you know?

I'll number these.
1. why do you care? I was referencing to kindergarteners because scratch was designed for kindergarteners to get exposed to this kind of logical thinking, but older kids who have not done this when young can do so too. I'm 13 if you must know...
2. that's nice.
3. no. when did I say that? you're insulting scratch and I'm just saying why scratch is the way it is.
4. I speak English.

besides that
I'm also fluent in music
and Chinese.

and a bit of python and ruby
and a bit of French

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#9 2013-01-07 00:05:51

Lew7898
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Registered: 2012-11-16
Posts: 33

Re: Scratch Is Not A Real Programming Language!!!!!

[personal contact information removed by moderator]

Lets continue this discussion on my facebook.

Last edited by cheddargirl (2013-01-07 01:40:12)

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#10 2013-01-07 00:07:07

kayybee
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Re: Scratch Is Not A Real Programming Language!!!!!

I'd rather not.

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#11 2013-01-07 00:09:33

Lew7898
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Registered: 2012-11-16
Posts: 33

Re: Scratch Is Not A Real Programming Language!!!!!

Why? Because you're not a real programmer?
What projects have you made, then?
And not console applications.

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#12 2013-01-07 00:13:54

kayybee
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Posts: 1000+

Re: Scratch Is Not A Real Programming Language!!!!!

Lew7898 wrote:

Why? Because you're not a real programmer?
What projects have you made, then?
And not console applications.

I never said I was a "real" programmer. When did I ever say that?

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#13 2013-01-07 00:14:30

Lew7898
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Registered: 2012-11-16
Posts: 33

Re: Scratch Is Not A Real Programming Language!!!!!

You're a script kiddie.

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#14 2013-01-07 00:16:02

BoltBait
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Registered: 2009-03-09
Posts: 1000+

Re: Scratch Is Not A Real Programming Language!!!!!

Don't feed the trolls.


Animated sigs must be banned!
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#15 2013-01-07 00:17:10

kayybee
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Registered: 2009-12-07
Posts: 1000+

Re: Scratch Is Not A Real Programming Language!!!!!

BoltBait wrote:

Don't feed the trolls.

*facepalm*
You're right.

We need mods on however.

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#16 2013-01-07 00:18:30

Lew7898
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Registered: 2012-11-16
Posts: 33

Re: Scratch Is Not A Real Programming Language!!!!!

I'm not a "troll".
I'm a programmer.
now tell me, kaybee. what programs have you made?

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#17 2013-01-07 00:48:10

nathanprocks
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Registered: 2011-04-14
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Re: Scratch Is Not A Real Programming Language!!!!!

Lew7898 wrote:

I'm not a "troll".
I'm a programmer.
now tell me, kaybee. what programs have you made?

It doesn't really matter what programs you have made. I am 14 an know quite a few programming languages. I am not an expert at all of them, but I don't believe there is such thing as a "real" programmer. A programmer is a person that writes programs.


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#18 2013-01-07 01:49:22

cheddargirl
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Registered: 2008-09-15
Posts: 1000+

Re: Scratch Is Not A Real Programming Language!!!!!

Lew7898 wrote:

I'm not a "troll".
I'm a programmer.

Well, actually, you kind of are acting trollish by blatantly attacking the Scratch software on the Scratch website.

If you don't like the way Scratch approaches programming via drag-and-drop, then don't use it. Same can be said of other drag-and-drop programming such as Stencyl, Waterbear, and Google Blocky.

However, consider the fact that some programming courses use Scratch as a way to teach programming concepts before plunging into other languages like C++ or Java; in fact, some professors found that they were more successful in teaching students if the students were familiar with Scratch first. So take it easy: while you may not find a benefit in the way Scratch was designed, others do.


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