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sanddude wrote:

Fudge it all! Fudge this world!
Fudge everything that you stand for!
Don't belong! Don't exist!
Don't give a poo! Don't ever judge me!
And don't you fudgin' judge me

You know, I just realized how funny this sounds when translated into non-curse speech. Mainly, I noticed that there would be quite a lot of... procreation to be had on the part of the audience. As in, a lot.

veggieman001 wrote:

lalala3 wrote:

veggieman001 wrote:

Yes, artists can choose to express their emotions by using clean language sometimes, but I believe that sometimes it just can't get the point across enough; if you hear profanity in a song, aren't you more likely to pay attention and have some sort of reaction to that? In this society, obscenity may be used to effectively express intense anger, frustration, and other feelings the artist may want to stir up in the listener, and people will understand that..

There was a time.
Then it all went wrong...
--Fantine from the Les Miserables musical

You're right; that's an example where profanity is not required. However, I wasn't arguing that profanity is always required. Someone arguing against me would have to prove that profanity is never required.

ImagineIt wrote:

lalala3 wrote:

Why would someone add swear words for any other reason? For that reason, why would someone do it at all in a song?

Songs only? What about real life? Oh my goodness. I hear those annoying words everywhere I go, and if I had the choice to have any superpower I wanted, the ability for all of those word to be muted or blocked out would have some serious consideration.

Why? Why do you let the words, being just words, mean so much?

I'll quote myself:
When I heard what the f-word actually meant, I was disgusted...

And some words are just offensive, such as the N word.

ImagineIt wrote:

veggieman001 wrote:

lalala3 wrote:

There was a time.
Then it all went wrong...
--Fantine from the Les Miserables musical

You're right; that's an example where profanity is not required. However, I wasn't arguing that profanity is always required. Someone arguing against me would have to prove that profanity is never required.

ImagineIt wrote:

Songs only? What about real life? Oh my goodness. I hear those annoying words everywhere I go, and if I had the choice to have any superpower I wanted, the ability for all of those word to be muted or blocked out would have some serious consideration.

Why? Why do you let the words, being just words, mean so much?

I'll quote myself:
When I heard what the f-word actually meant, I was disgusted...

And some words are just offensive, such as the N word.

That disgusting thing is the reason that you, me, and everybody around you were created, and it's also led to some of the most awesome jokes ever. Unless it's being used to insult or degrade you, there's no reason to be offended by it. Same for most other bad words; "You are a piece of [removed]*" is something fair to get offended by, but "Oh [removed] I stubbed my toe" isn't.

I agree about the N word but that's on a different level, given it's historical context.

Last edited by cheddargirl (2013-01-07 01:52:24)

sanddude wrote:

ImagineIt wrote:

veggieman001 wrote:

You're right; that's an example where profanity is not required. However, I wasn't arguing that profanity is always required. Someone arguing against me would have to prove that profanity is never required.


Why? Why do you let the words, being just words, mean so much?

I'll quote myself:
When I heard what the f-word actually meant, I was disgusted...

And some words are just offensive, such as the N word.

That disgusting thing is the reason that you, me, and everybody around you were created, and it's also led to some of the most awesome jokes ever. Unless it's being used to insult or degrade you, there's no reason to be offended by it. Same for most other bad words; "You are a piece of [removed]" is something fair to get offended by, but "Oh [removed] I stubbed my toe" isn't.

I agree about the N word but that's on a different level, given it's historical context.

I couldn't have said it better myself

Last edited by cheddargirl (2013-01-07 01:53:00)

sanddude wrote:

"You are a piece of [removed]" is something fair to get offended by, but "Oh [removed] I stubbed my toe" isn't.

It's tossing around a swear word like it's nothing. There was a time, when if you said that, everyone in the room would stare like you as if you were nuts. There was a time when topics such as mating affairs were only mentioned rarely, and only if it was relevant. Apparently, they are now somehow connected to everything in life, and an improbably high number of things seem to warrant an exclamation of one or more things directly related to reproduction.

RoyalHi5 wrote:

This has gotten really off topic and has been taken to a PG-13 rating. I'm perfectly fine with PG-13 but young Scratchers might not be so can we redirect this forum topic to where it's supposed to be? This isn't the youtube comment section 0.0

Most people would ignore it, but that was a big mistake (or rather, an error. For now.). There is a reason why, if you don't want to offend someone else by hanging up (or just offend them less), you do it while you're talking, as opposed to while they are. The same principle (or a similar) applies here, so I don't think I, at least, will go back on topic until this debate is all settled. It is disrespectful to just say something for your side and then try to shut the argument down. You just don't do that.

Last edited by cheddargirl (2013-01-07 01:53:27)

lalala3 wrote:

sanddude wrote:

"You are a piece of [removed]" is something fair to get offended by, but "Oh [removed] I stubbed my toe" isn't.

It's tossing around a swear word like it's nothing. There was a time, when if you said that, everyone in the room would stare like you as if you were nuts. There was a time when topics such as mating affairs were only mentioned rarely, and only if it was relevant. Apparently, they are now somehow connected to everything in life, and an improbably high number of things seem to warrant an exclamation of one or more things directly related to reproduction.

RoyalHi5 wrote:

This has gotten really off topic and has been taken to a PG-13 rating. I'm perfectly fine with PG-13 but young Scratchers might not be so can we redirect this forum topic to where it's supposed to be? This isn't the youtube comment section 0.0

Most people would ignore it, but that was a big mistake (or rather, an error. For now.). There is a reason why, if you don't want to offend someone else by hanging up (or just offend them less), you do it while you're talking, as opposed to while they are. The same principle (or a similar) applies here, so I don't think I, at least, will go back on topic until this debate is all settled. It is disrespectful to just say something for your side and then try to shut the argument down. You just don't do that.

We toss around swear words like they are nothing because they are nothing.

Last edited by cheddargirl (2013-01-07 01:54:13)