Scratch

Well, I don't know why it does this, really. (Big help, aren't I. xD)
But, you could semi-fix this yourself by telling users to download in the Project notes.

the flash player has different instruments because in 2.0 they had to create their own sounds

fillergames wrote:

Wes64 wrote:

the flash player has different instruments because in 2.0 they had to create their own sounds

They couldn't import them? 

Well, for further clarification:

The note blocks on the Scratch 1.4 software use whatever MIDI sound library you have on your computer. Flash player can't use a MIDI sound library, so the Scratch Team has to develop it's own instrument sounds library. The Scratch Team is aware that the sound library isn't the best (nor is it complete!) but it's low on the priority list compared to other Scratch 2.0 issues.

The issue about the note blocks is not secluded to the Flash player alone: The old Java player actually uses it's own MIDI library, so it's subject to sounds differences as well. Additionally, not all computers have the same MIDI library - often times, projects will sound different on different computers based on the MIDI library installed on them. This is one issue where telling others to download might not solve the problem because of platform differences. 

fillergames wrote:

Well this is a big issue! Why didn't scratch just have its own MIDI rather then using whatever library stored on your computer? File size?

It's just easier to use something that's already there than try to develop sound files for some 100+ instruments.

technoguyx wrote:

Why not just outsource a good, lightweight one with a compatible license, then? There are lots available, I'm sure. No need to reinvent the wheel.

Why outsource someone to make a wheel when one already exists? With regards to Scratch 1.4, you may as well just utilize whatever MIDI player is natively on the computer instead of outsourcing. 

All that being said, know a good one for Flash that relatively cheap? 

Last edited by cheddargirl (2013-01-03 18:06:26)

I had written a project a couple of weeks ago comparing the sound tones I got offline with the sounds made while running the program.http://scratch.mit.edu/projects/digimathtryit/2981646  Offline I recorded a long wave file of the different instruments with pauses.  The program plays the wave file and intersperses the same "set instrument" and "play note" blocks so a comparison can be made. Most of the Flash instruments do something, usually generic.  (all of the organs sound the same, the guitars sound all the same, so on.)  Most of the special effect sounds are gone.  At least we have something and there are some good Flash choices available to us.

technoguyx wrote:

cheddargirl wrote:

technoguyx wrote:

Why not just outsource a good, lightweight one with a compatible license, then? There are lots available, I'm sure. No need to reinvent the wheel.

Why outsource someone to make a wheel when one already exists? With regards to Scratch 1.4, you may as well just utilize whatever MIDI player is natively on the computer instead of outsourcing. 

All that being said, know a good one for Flash that relatively cheap? 

That's what I meant, I think the term "outsource" doesn't mean what I thought 

Outsourcing means that you contract a third party to perform a function - to me, your comment came across as "let's pay someone to make a Scratch sound library for us!"

Anyway, wouldn't the fact that Scratch 2.0 will be purely Flash based, online or not, eliminate the problem of different sounding MIDI, as both will use the same soundfont and means to reproduce MIDI? That's the main concern here.

Well, that would depend if the offline version will have a workaround to use a computer's MIDI sound system already on the computer or come along with it's own.