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#1 2012-12-28 23:55:53

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So the signature one doesn't get off topic.  Discuss.  It's a rather interesting concept, actually.  Wikipedia is an example.

EDIT:  If you have a strong opinion, please back it up with strong evidence.

EDIT II:  Sources:

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=you-have-a-hive-mind
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collective_consciousness
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swarm_intelligence
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jeanne-ball/collective-consciousness-meditation_b_822288.html
http://csmt.uchicago.edu/glossary2004/collectiveconsciousness.htm

And biology books about the brain.

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#2 2012-12-28 23:59:29

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the internet is a hivemind

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#3 2012-12-29 00:00:37

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hivemind wrote:

the internet is a hivemind

Yep.   wink


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#4 2012-12-29 00:03:01

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you are part of the hivemind
we have prevailed

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#5 2012-12-29 00:04:16

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hivemind wrote:

you are part of the hivemind
we have prevailed

Read first post.


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#6 2012-12-29 00:07:23

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shouldnt there be  a topic for concepts like this in general

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#7 2012-12-29 00:09:19

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777w wrote:

shouldnt there be  a topic for concepts like this in general

ST says it's too broad.


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#8 2012-12-29 00:12:56

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you are here
the hivemind is everything
here is part of everything
therefore you are part of the hivemind
what is there to prove

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#9 2012-12-29 00:14:55

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hivemind wrote:

you are here
the hivemind is everything
here is part of everything
therefore you are part of the hivemind
what is there to prove

That the hivemind is a fact, not a theory.  In people.  In bees and ants it exists.


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#10 2012-12-29 00:16:22

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Re: Hivemind Official Topic

Firedrake969 wrote:

hivemind wrote:

you are here
the hivemind is everything
here is part of everything
therefore you are part of the hivemind
what is there to prove

That the hivemind is a fact, not a theory.  In people.  In bees and ants it exists.

the hivemind is everything
you are a part of it
you are not a freethinker
what you think of as your life is an illusion conjured by the hivemind

WAKE UP

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#11 2012-12-29 00:17:45

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Re: Hivemind Official Topic

hivemind wrote:

Firedrake969 wrote:

hivemind wrote:

you are here
the hivemind is everything
here is part of everything
therefore you are part of the hivemind
what is there to prove

That the hivemind is a fact, not a theory.  In people.  In bees and ants it exists.

the hivemind is everything
you are a part of it
you are not a freethinker
what you think of as your life is an illusion conjured by the hivemind

WAKE UP

And there is proof of this....


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#12 2012-12-29 00:21:34

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Firedrake969 wrote:

hivemind wrote:

Firedrake969 wrote:


That the hivemind is a fact, not a theory.  In people.  In bees and ants it exists.

the hivemind is everything
you are a part of it
you are not a freethinker
what you think of as your life is an illusion conjured by the hivemind

WAKE UP

And there is proof of this....

and you have proof against it?
it's very likely to be true, if you were of the hivemind you may not know it
if there was nothing but the hivemind and you existed within it, would it be too unreasonable for you to not know it?

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#13 2012-12-29 00:23:23

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hivemind wrote:

Firedrake969 wrote:

hivemind wrote:


the hivemind is everything
you are a part of it
you are not a freethinker
what you think of as your life is an illusion conjured by the hivemind

WAKE UP

And there is proof of this....

and you have proof against it?
it's very likely to be true, if you were of the hivemind you may not know it
if there was nothing but the hivemind and you existed within it, would it be too unreasonable for you to not know it?

There is no evidence for or against it.  Saying it exists does nothing.  Saying it doesn't exist does nothing.


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#14 2012-12-29 00:29:24

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Re: Hivemind Official Topic

Firedrake969 wrote:

hivemind wrote:

Firedrake969 wrote:


And there is proof of this....

and you have proof against it?
it's very likely to be true, if you were of the hivemind you may not know it
if there was nothing but the hivemind and you existed within it, would it be too unreasonable for you to not know it?

There is no evidence for or against it.  Saying it exists does nothing.  Saying it doesn't exist does nothing.

you can only have faith in it
if you do not believe you are part of it

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#15 2012-12-29 00:31:05

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can i pull out the "graph as to why you are wrong" again
http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/110/graphastowhyyouarewrong.png
see now everything makes as much sense as it did before which is none

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#16 2012-12-29 00:33:17

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hivemind wrote:

Firedrake969 wrote:

hivemind wrote:


and you have proof against it?
it's very likely to be true, if you were of the hivemind you may not know it
if there was nothing but the hivemind and you existed within it, would it be too unreasonable for you to not know it?

There is no evidence for or against it.  Saying it exists does nothing.  Saying it doesn't exist does nothing.

you can only have faith in it
if you do not believe you are part of it

I don't have faith in something that's not there.  @ the graph(s), point to me where it proves the hivemind.


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#17 2012-12-29 00:35:06

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Re: Hivemind Official Topic

Firedrake969 wrote:

hivemind wrote:

Firedrake969 wrote:

There is no evidence for or against it.  Saying it exists does nothing.  Saying it doesn't exist does nothing.

you can only have faith in it
if you do not believe you are part of it

I don't have faith in something that's not there.  @ the graph(s), point to me where it proves the hivemind.

actually it disproves the hivemind when you add all the figures up and divide by the numerator of the square root of point u on part 16

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#18 2012-12-29 00:39:52

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777w wrote:

Firedrake969 wrote:

hivemind wrote:


you can only have faith in it
if you do not believe you are part of it

I don't have faith in something that's not there.  @ the graph(s), point to me where it proves the hivemind.

actually it disproves the hivemind when you add all the figures up and divide by the numerator of the square root of point u on part 16

Oh yea!  Ok, real facts, people, not just joking around.


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#19 2012-12-29 00:40:56

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Re: Hivemind Official Topic

Firedrake969 wrote:

777w wrote:

Firedrake969 wrote:


I don't have faith in something that's not there.  @ the graph(s), point to me where it proves the hivemind.

actually it disproves the hivemind when you add all the figures up and divide by the numerator of the square root of point u on part 16

Oh yea!  Ok, real facts, people, not just joking around.

im pretty sure thats what "hivemind" is doing, just in a way that attempts to make it look like hes being serious

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#20 2012-12-29 00:41:06

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Re: Hivemind Official Topic

Firedrake969 wrote:

hivemind wrote:

Firedrake969 wrote:


There is no evidence for or against it.  Saying it exists does nothing.  Saying it doesn't exist does nothing.

you can only have faith in it
if you do not believe you are part of it

I don't have faith in something that's not there.  @ the graph(s), point to me where it proves the hivemind.

prove that its not there

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#21 2012-12-29 00:42:22

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hivemind wrote:

Firedrake969 wrote:

hivemind wrote:


you can only have faith in it
if you do not believe you are part of it

I don't have faith in something that's not there.  @ the graph(s), point to me where it proves the hivemind.

prove that its not there

Prove it is.

JUST DISCUSS THE TOPIC!  DO NOT FORCE YOUR BELIEFS!


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#22 2012-12-29 00:43:34

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I believe that a collective consciousness exists within not only social insects, but within mainstream society as well.

Some are too blind to stand out and want to blend in and do what others do simply because they're doing it, and therefore "go with the flow".

The greatest mystery though is: if we are a hive mind, then who or what is our hive queen?


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#23 2012-12-29 00:45:16

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banana500 wrote:

I believe that a collective consciousness exists within not only social insects, but within mainstream society as well.

Some are too blind to stand out and want to blend in and do what others do simply because they're doing it, and therefore "go with the flow".

The greatest mystery though is: if we are a hive mind, then who or what is our hive queen?

Others are radically different.  And if we are the mind, we are our own queen.


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#24 2012-12-29 00:47:14

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hivemind wrote:

Firedrake969 wrote:

hivemind wrote:


you can only have faith in it
if you do not believe you are part of it

I don't have faith in something that's not there.  @ the graph(s), point to me where it proves the hivemind.

prove that its not there

you dont ask somebody to prove that something isnt there, thats like the idea of being guilty until proven innocent

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#25 2012-12-29 00:47:57

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Firedrake969 wrote:

banana500 wrote:

I believe that a collective consciousness exists within not only social insects, but within mainstream society as well.

Some are too blind to stand out and want to blend in and do what others do simply because they're doing it, and therefore "go with the flow".

The greatest mystery though is: if we are a hive mind, then who or what is our hive queen?

Others are radically different.  And if we are the mind, we are our own queen.

I guess that makes sense.

If we are not a hive mind, and we are able to think for ourselves, there is no queen...

...but us.

You know, all this gives me an interesting idea for a dystopian story.


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