And theworld hasnt ended....YAY!
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orgest wrote:
And theworld hasnt ended....YAY!
Yep. Those people were wrong. They can't even predict the weather correctly. So how can they predict this.
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New Zealand already knew this yesterday.
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transparent wrote:
New Zealand already knew this yesterday.
Lol - good point!
Here's the official NASA webpage that has a list of Frequently Asked Question on the "End of the World" rumors. Spoiler alert - they don't think it's going to happen
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That's interesting!
You know, even if they did think it was going to end, it's a safe move to say it's not to keep people calm. Because if the world did end, no one's gonna care about who was right or wrong - if they get the chance to do anything!
I personally believe that the world could technically end at any moment, but it's not because of the Mayans.
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It's the opposite of the world ending! My bus is half an hour late! And I have winter break tomorrow!
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1. Mayans had to make a new calendar. Our world doesn't end every December 31st!
2. They didn't account for leap years, which means it ended years ago.
3. If there were a supposed planet coming toward us, we would see it as large as the Moon.
4. I'm lucky because I've had Winter Break for a week as of now.
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what if the apocalypse does end up happening in the form of snow that starts and never ceases
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nononononono. you guys dont understand. the world is still gonna end today. not because of the Mayans, but because I said so. duh
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Firedrake969 wrote:
2. They didn't account for leap years, which means it ended years ago.
That is an urban myth.
The concept of leap years is irrelevant; all they're doing on the calendar is counting days. Leap years are only necessary in the Gregorian calendar, where the year is actually longer than 365 days (which we need to account for). This article [removed by moderator because of inappropriate comments] is nice.
[moderator note - I've cut and paste the article below]
Mayan Calendar and the Gregorian Leap Year
MARCH 7, 2012 BY JAMES WATT 357 COMMENTS
There has been a bogus forward circulating Facebook and Twitter about the Mayan Calendar. It claims that the Mayans were unaware of our Leap Year system, therefore the world should have already ended. The forward going around reads:
There have been about 514 Leap Years since Caesar created it in 45BC. Without the extra day every 4 years, today would be July 28, 2013.
Also, the Mayan calendar did not account for leap year…. so technically the world should have ended 7 months ago.
While I appreciate the ultimate goal of this forward, whoever wrote it is very misinformed. The current era (known to the Mayans as a baktun) does end on December 21, 2012. However, the world will not end; the calendar simply rolls over to the next baktun. It’s very similar to the Gregorian date of January 1, 2000.
And just like we celebrated the beginning of the new millennium, the Mayans would have celebrated the beginning of a new baktun. This was not something to fear.
Julius Caesar did modify the Roman calendar in 45BCE to include Leap Years. This new calendar was called the Julian calendar. As of the time of posting, today’s date on the Julian calendar is only February 23, 2012. This is because the Julian calendar adds a leap year every four years, meaning that each year is 365.25 days long.
In reality, one solar year is ~365.24219878 days. In order to correct Caesar’s mistake, it was changed in 1582 to a calendar year equal to 365.2425 days. This was done by skipping leap years that were divisible by 100 unless they are also divisible by 400. For instance, the following years would have been leap years under the Julian calendar, but are now skipped: 1500, 1700, 1800, 1900. Likewise, the following leap years were not skipped because they were also divisible by 400: 1600, 2000. This system, known as the Gregorian calendar, is what we use today.
The Mayan calendar is very inaccurate when calculating years. Not only did they not account for leap years, they were completely wrong about how many days were in a year. The Mayan “tun” is 360 days long, equivalent of 0.986 years.
However, the date of December 21, 2012, is not based on Mayan tuns. It is based on the total accumulation of days since the beginning of the Mayan calendar. It is commonly accepted that the first date on the Mayan calendar is August 11, 3113 BCE on the Gregorian calendar. Therefore, we must start on that date and count forward in time.
The Mayan baktun is the equivalent of 400 Mayan tuns (years). But remember, their years are only 360 days long. 400 x 360 = 144,000. Therefore, each Mayan baktun is a total of 144,000 days long.
As of the time of posting, the Mayan date is 12.19.19.3.11. The first number represents the baktun, the second number katuns (20 Mayan years), the third number is tuns (Mayan years), the fourth is uinals (20 day “weeks”), and the final number is the day. I know that I’m making some history nut cringe at my over simplification of the Mayan calendar; I’m using “years” and “weeks” to make things easy to understand.
On December 21, 2012, the first number in the Mayan calendar will change from 12 to 13, making it 13.0.0.0.0. The last time this happened was on September 18, 1618, when the current baktun started. As you have already imagined, the Mayan date on that day was 12.0.0.0.0. Obviously, the world didn’t end.
But how do we know that 13.0.0.0.0 will happen on December 21, 2012? First, we need to calculate the total amount of days required to reach the 13th baktun: 144,000 x 13 = 1,872,000 days.
If we start counting from August 11, 3113 BCE, we probably won’t get very far. I don’t know about you, but counting to almost 2 million isn’t something that I have time to do. Instead, use any date calculator to do the math. Sure enough, you’ll always arrive at the same date: December 21, 2012.
Update 4/26/2012: I would like to clarify a misconception about when the Mayan calendar began. Some date calculators convert everything before Oct 15, 1582 to the Julian calendar. This is because dates recorded in history during that time were recorded on the Julian system. I didn’t see any reason to convert it twice so I used August 11, 3113 BCE on the Gregorian calendar and counted forward. However, the Mayan calendar began September 6, 3114 BCE on the Julian calendar. If your calculator is using the Julian calendar for older dates, please keep this in mind. For more information, please read the original message that prompted this.
Update 5/20/2012: Some people still disagree with the date calculator and/or simply do not understand this article. I posted a comment below, showing all of the work required to count days on the Gregorian calendar, further proving that the calendar does end on Dec 21.
Update 6/25/2012: Some small mix ups with the year because certain Gregorian calendars use the year zero while others do not. Please see this comment from a very informed reader who explains it all.
Last edited by Paddle2See (2012-12-21 10:34:21)
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veggieman001 wrote:
Firedrake969 wrote:
2. They didn't account for leap years, which means it ended years ago.
That is an urban myth.
The concept of leap years is irrelevant; all they're doing on the calendar is counting days. Leap years are only necessary in the Gregorian calendar, where the year is actually longer than 365 days (which we need to account for). This article [removed by moderator because of inappropriate comments] is nice.
Logic:
Day = sunrise > sunset
year = going around the sun once
year = 365.25-ish days
Anyone could get a site called jameswatt.me and post anything on it
Therefore,
You can guess.
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Firedrake969 wrote:
veggieman001 wrote:
Firedrake969 wrote:
2. They didn't account for leap years, which means it ended years ago.
That is an urban myth.
The concept of leap years is irrelevant; all they're doing on the calendar is counting days. Leap years are only necessary in the Gregorian calendar, where the year is actually longer than 365 days (which we need to account for). This article [removed by moderator because of inappropriate comments] is nice.Logic:
Day = sunrise > sunset
year = going around the sun once
year = 365.25-ish days
Anyone could get a site called jameswatt.me and post anything on it
Therefore,
You can guess.
I understand this is a big issue, but do we really have to prove it's bogus 5 times over? No one really believed the world was going to end after we had Harold Camping
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witchartix wrote:
Firedrake969 wrote:
veggieman001 wrote:
That is an urban myth.
The concept of leap years is irrelevant; all they're doing on the calendar is counting days. Leap years are only necessary in the Gregorian calendar, where the year is actually longer than 365 days (which we need to account for). This article [removed by moderator because of inappropriate comments] is nice.Logic:
Day = sunrise > sunset
year = going around the sun once
year = 365.25-ish days
Anyone could get a site called jameswatt.me and post anything on it
Therefore,
You can guess.I understand this is a big issue, but do we really have to prove it's bogus 5 times over? No one really believed the world was going to end after we had Harold Camping
Explain Harold Camping? What/who is he?
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Well, darn!
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And years later, when you have kids, show them the movie 2012. Then say "I survived that."
Okay, my friend told me that joke.
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Paddle2See wrote:
transparent wrote:
New Zealand already knew this yesterday.
Lol - good point!
Here's the official NASA webpage that has a list of Frequently Asked Question on the "End of the World" rumors. Spoiler alert - they don't think it's going to happen
Yeah, I thought about trying to call Information in Australia and saying, "Are you guys dead yet?" But I didn't.
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I always count my eggs before they hatch. ;_;
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