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#1 2012-12-04 14:15:14

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"Brand new" Scratcher status or something

I am thinking that in order to further more SEO spam, there should be more restrictions on users that haven't uploaded any projects, favorited any projects, friended any users, made any comments, or done something that a spammer is unlikely to have done.

These users wouldn't be able to post any URLs at all (whether clickable links or not) and would have a longer wait time between posts (maybe 300 seconds or something). Another possible feature would be to make it so that it takes fewer reports to autoban them.

I know that due to how the current forum code works, that would be rather difficult, but since the 2.0 code is new, this might be a good idea.

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#2 2012-12-04 14:16:30

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Re: "Brand new" Scratcher status or something

A number of SEO spammers do comment on projects though- they make spam comments!


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#3 2012-12-04 14:17:50

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Re: "Brand new" Scratcher status or something

nama wrote:

A number of SEO spammers do comment on projects though- they make spam comments!

True.
Maybe also add a requirement of being registered for 3 days or something.


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#4 2012-12-04 14:20:26

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Re: "Brand new" Scratcher status or something

jvvg wrote:

nama wrote:

A number of SEO spammers do comment on projects though- they make spam comments!

True.
Maybe also add a requirement of being registered for 3 days or something.

one problem i can see for not letting people on the forum for three days is for people who actually need help with projects quickly- which i have found is one of the most common reasons people post.

Prehaps you should only be able too post once you have made a project like you say because that will solve both problems


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#5 2012-12-04 14:21:52

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Re: "Brand new" Scratcher status or something

Willpower wrote:

jvvg wrote:

nama wrote:

A number of SEO spammers do comment on projects though- they make spam comments!

True.
Maybe also add a requirement of being registered for 3 days or something.

one problem i can see for not letting people on the forum for three days is for people who actually need help with projects quickly- which i have found is one of the most common reasons people post.

Prehaps you should only be able too post once you have made a project like you say because that will solve both problems

I didn't mean not let them on the forums at all, I meant just give them longer time between posts (maybe 300 seconds) and not be able to post URLs at all.


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#6 2012-12-04 14:23:05

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Re: "Brand new" Scratcher status or something

jvvg wrote:

Willpower wrote:

jvvg wrote:


True.
Maybe also add a requirement of being registered for 3 days or something.

one problem i can see for not letting people on the forum for three days is for people who actually need help with projects quickly- which i have found is one of the most common reasons people post.

Prehaps you should only be able too post once you have made a project like you say because that will solve both problems

I didn't mean not let them on the forums at all, I meant just give them longer time between posts (maybe 300 seconds) and not be able to post URLs at all.

oh my mistake, sounds good!


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#7 2012-12-04 15:37:12

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Re: "Brand new" Scratcher status or something

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#8 2012-12-04 15:47:34

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Re: "Brand new" Scratcher status or something

maybe have some sort of confirming device when you make an account, like having to answer a captcha or something computers can't do.


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#9 2012-12-04 16:50:56

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Re: "Brand new" Scratcher status or something

Wes64 wrote:

maybe have some sort of confirming device when you make an account, like having to answer a captcha or something computers can't do.

That won't stop real people that are spammers, though. My method would make a pretty effective shield against real people who are spammers, though.


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#10 2012-12-04 17:35:45

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Re: "Brand new" Scratcher status or something

jvvg wrote:

Wes64 wrote:

maybe have some sort of confirming device when you make an account, like having to answer a captcha or something computers can't do.

That won't stop real people that are spammers, though. My method would make a pretty effective shield against real people who are spammers, though.

the big spamming thing we saw a few months ago was a bot, so it will help eliminate some


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#11 2012-12-04 17:47:43

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Re: "Brand new" Scratcher status or something

I think it should just apply to people who haven't posted a project. I mean, that's the first thing you should do if you're new, right?
And most spammers won't bother to waste their time downloading Scratch but since 2.0 is online they may be willing to make a (blank) project...

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#12 2012-12-04 17:57:11

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Re: "Brand new" Scratcher status or something

kayybee wrote:

I think it should just apply to people who haven't posted a project. I mean, that's the first thing you should do if you're new, right?
And most spammers won't bother to waste their time downloading Scratch but since 2.0 is online they may be willing to make a (blank) project...

Some users need help before they can post their first project, so I think that 3 days and 1 comment, 1 favorite, etc. would be enough.


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#13 2012-12-04 20:52:31

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Re: "Brand new" Scratcher status or something

kayybee wrote:

I think it should just apply to people who haven't posted a project. I mean, that's the first thing you should do if you're new, right?
And most spammers won't bother to waste their time downloading Scratch but since 2.0 is online they may be willing to make a (blank) project...

I don't think you can upload a blank project.


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#14 2012-12-04 20:54:30

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Re: "Brand new" Scratcher status or something

jontmy00 wrote:

kayybee wrote:

I think it should just apply to people who haven't posted a project. I mean, that's the first thing you should do if you're new, right?
And most spammers won't bother to waste their time downloading Scratch but since 2.0 is online they may be willing to make a (blank) project...

I don't think you can upload a blank project.

Yes you can - I just opened Scratch and hit upload


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#15 2012-12-04 21:57:27

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Re: "Brand new" Scratcher status or something

jvvg wrote:

jontmy00 wrote:

kayybee wrote:

I think it should just apply to people who haven't posted a project. I mean, that's the first thing you should do if you're new, right?
And most spammers won't bother to waste their time downloading Scratch but since 2.0 is online they may be willing to make a (blank) project...

I don't think you can upload a blank project.

Yes you can - I just opened Scratch and hit upload

I agree with kayybee-spambots aren't smart enough yet to upload.  :3


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#16 2012-12-04 22:01:21

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Re: "Brand new" Scratcher status or something

Firedrake969 wrote:

jvvg wrote:

jontmy00 wrote:


I don't think you can upload a blank project.

Yes you can - I just opened Scratch and hit upload

I agree with kayybee-spambots aren't smart enough yet to upload.  :3

I agree with that too, but I was just pointing out that it is possible to upload a spam project. Even if they start to do that, I doubt that they will be able to wait 3 days.


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#17 2012-12-04 22:39:45

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Re: "Brand new" Scratcher status or something

jvvg wrote:

... and would have a longer wait time between posts (maybe 500 minutes or something). ...

doesn't that seem a bit extensive?

If they feel the need to make this, I think that having just one project and one comment would be enough, instead of having one project one comment one favorite etc...

People, you have to remember that the more "spammer-safe" you get, the less noob-friendly you get.

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#18 2012-12-05 09:16:22

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Re: "Brand new" Scratcher status or something

TorbyFork234 wrote:

jvvg wrote:

... and would have a longer wait time between posts (maybe 500 minutes or something). ...

doesn't that seem a bit extensive?

If they feel the need to make this, I think that having just one project and one comment would be enough, instead of having one project one comment one favorite etc...

People, you have to remember that the more "spammer-safe" you get, the less noob-friendly you get.

Don't support.

I meant 300 seconds. I was typing faster than I was thinking.  tongue

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