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Maybe they could make some kind of habitat for the pigeons near your city where you feed them instead of in your city.

fireheartocean wrote:

Maybe they could make some kind of habitat for the pigeons near your city where you feed them instead of in your city.

thats a really god idea but the only problem is that a pigeon will have a home area or "town" if you like. it is a MYTH that pigeons "go wherever they are being fed". yes, pigeons will forage and spend their day in that area if it is in their home area but they will still go to roost in the same building/tree/pigeon loft. it WILL NOT go to a different town if there is less food availiable. for example: if you have a pet pigeon that lives in a pigeon loft and is let out of it's loft in the day, it will still go back to the loft even if other people feed it. just like if there was a good resturuant in another town you wouldn't mo ve there JUST because of that resturuant.

Last edited by 9star (2012-11-30 07:15:00)

werdna123 wrote:

9star wrote:

fireheartocean wrote:

Maybe they could make some kind of habitat for the pigeons near your city where you feed them instead of in your city.

thats a really god idea but the only problem is that a pigeon will have a home area or "town" if you like. it is a MYTH that pigeons "go wherever they are being fed". yes, pigeons will forage and spend their day in that area if it is in their home area but they will still go to roost in the same building/tree/pigeon loft. it WILL NOT go to a different town if there is less food availiable. for example: if you have a pet pigeon that lives in a pigeon loft and is let out of it's loft in the day, it will still go back to the loft even if other people feed it. just like if there was a good resturuant in another town you wouldn't mo ve there JUST because of that resturuant.

pigeons aren't that smart, they'd have evolved to be stationed around the best food source, unless there was a serious reason not to.

Kore

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9star wrote:

fireheartocean wrote:

Maybe they could make some kind of habitat for the pigeons near your city where you feed them instead of in your city.

thats a really god idea but the only problem is that a pigeon will have a home area or "town" if you like. it is a MYTH that pigeons "go wherever they are being fed". yes, pigeons will forage and spend their day in that area if it is in their home area but they will still go to roost in the same building/tree/pigeon loft. it WILL NOT go to a different town if there is less food availiable. for example: if you have a pet pigeon that lives in a pigeon loft and is let out of it's loft in the day, it will still go back to the loft even if other people feed it. just like if there was a good resturuant in another town you wouldn't mo ve there JUST because of that resturuant.

If you don't feed them very much then they will simply breed less pigeons and therefore the numbers will naturally decrease. Typically pigeons breed two or three times a year with two eggs each time. If you just give them food, then they will breed many more times than that, up to eight times.

... I dont know about you, but Ive never gone to a place where they encourage feeding the ducks...

Instagram wrote:

... I dont know about you, but Ive never gone to a place where they encourage feeding the ducks...

in [i'm not saying the name] park people used to feed the all the birds (including ducks) bread. it was a great park with all kinds of ducks (not just mallards), cormorants, herons,  seagulls and very tame pigeons! then they put posters up saying not to feed bread to the birds but feed them bird seed instead. and they ENCOURAGE people to feed them.

Last edited by 9star (2012-12-01 04:31:29)

9star wrote:

luiysia wrote:

9star wrote:

thats a really god idea but the only problem is that a pigeon will have a home area or "town" if you like. it is a MYTH that pigeons "go wherever they are being fed". yes, pigeons will forage and spend their day in that area if it is in their home area but they will still go to roost in the same building/tree/pigeon loft. it WILL NOT go to a different town if there is less food availiable. for example: if you have a pet pigeon that lives in a pigeon loft and is let out of it's loft in the day, it will still go back to the loft even if other people feed it. just like if there was a good resturuant in another town you wouldn't mo ve there JUST because of that resturuant.

If you don't feed them very much then they will simply breed less pigeons and therefore the numbers will naturally decrease. Typically pigeons breed two or three times a year with two eggs each time. If you just give them food, then they will breed many more times than that, up to eight times.

rubbish. you wouldn't forget how to find food if someone brought it to you all the time, would you?.and humans overbreed and no-one thinks thats bad. but when PIGEONS overbreed, people think it's terrible.
it is unlikely that you will catch ANYTHING from a pigeon.
please read the article it has quotes from EXPERTS.

actually there are lots of people who think human overpopulation is a problem

if i go outside i see at least ten pigeons within half an hour
you seem to live in a rural area, but pigeons tend to stay around cities

9star wrote:

luiysia wrote:

9star wrote:

thats a really god idea but the only problem is that a pigeon will have a home area or "town" if you like. it is a MYTH that pigeons "go wherever they are being fed". yes, pigeons will forage and spend their day in that area if it is in their home area but they will still go to roost in the same building/tree/pigeon loft. it WILL NOT go to a different town if there is less food availiable. for example: if you have a pet pigeon that lives in a pigeon loft and is let out of it's loft in the day, it will still go back to the loft even if other people feed it. just like if there was a good resturuant in another town you wouldn't mo ve there JUST because of that resturuant.

If you don't feed them very much then they will simply breed less pigeons and therefore the numbers will naturally decrease. Typically pigeons breed two or three times a year with two eggs each time. If you just give them food, then they will breed many more times than that, up to eight times.

rubbish. you wouldn't forget how to find food if someone brought it to you all the time, would you?

well in a way we have
very few people know how to forage or hunt these days
but why are you equating human psychology with pigeon psychology
they're completely different animals

ImagineIt wrote:

soupoftomato wrote:

9star wrote:

i will continue feeding them. they ARE NOT PESTS. we share our towns/cities/parks with them. they can't help "being a problem" (which i don't believe they do). and i never said that because they can't go in a public toilet doesn't make them pests! what i mean was tat they can't help pooing on things. and the reasons on the webpages you posted links to WERE STUPID!!!

We SHOULD NOT be sharing out towns/cities/parks. Pigeons should live in the wild but FEEDING attracts them back to the cities to poop on things and spread disease. Stop feeding, they stop coming and being pests.

Actually, that's not fully true. Pigeons naturally live on cliffs, and since cities have such large buildings, they are attracted to them.

LIE!

Where did pigeons live before cities?
Where did they used to live before there were cities? I can barely imagine any pigeons living in the forest or woods. Where did they originally live?

There are several species. The common town pigeon was domesticated, (populations in towns originated from individuals which escaped from captivity) from the rock dove, which bred in holes on coastal cliffs and fed on adjacent farmland. Pure-bred specimens of these are now rare, having been diluted by hybridisation with feral birds, but some pure colonies still exist. Other species, such as woodpigeons and collared doves, naturally live in woods and farmland, and have also adapted to gardens and parks.

source

Last edited by jukyter (2012-12-31 13:27:06)

jukyter wrote:

if i go outside i see at least ten pigeons within half an hour
you seem to live in a rural area, but pigeons tend to stay around cities

9star wrote:

luiysia wrote:

If you don't feed them very much then they will simply breed less pigeons and therefore the numbers will naturally decrease. Typically pigeons breed two or three times a year with two eggs each time. If you just give them food, then they will breed many more times than that, up to eight times.

rubbish. you wouldn't forget how to find food if someone brought it to you all the time, would you?

well in a way we have
very few people know how to forage or hunt these days
but why are you equating human psychology with pigeon psychology
they're completely different animals

you can get books about foraging. and i meant things preparing pasta, making a sandwhich and making cakes. i can do all of those yet i get given toast in the morning.
and tests show that the pigeon can be taught to count to 7 then it learns to count to 10 (i posted a link to a source earlier). that is equal to the rhesus monkey and we are related to primates. and pigeons are generally very clever.

Last edited by 9star (2013-01-01 06:31:38)

why dont we just kill all the pigeons and stop this argument

who cares