Scratch

Paddle2See wrote:

I'm still not sure if it's better to allow the mouse to go outside the boundaries or just pretend that it didn't (as Flash does now). What do you think?

In the Scratch 1.4 editor it lets it go outside, does it not? It's useful to test if the mouse has left the stage. (Does the project still receive mousedown events when the mouse iss outside the player?)

There can be glitches where the mouse moves too fast, so the last position is not near an edge, and could be still on a button or a sprite.

Just a thought! 

Last edited by blob8108 (2012-11-27 13:43:25)

I found a glitch in the Flash Player. Apparently, it doesn't like having say blocks with conditionals in them even though it works offline and in the Java Player. Here's the link to a bug isolation project and here's the only script I have in it if you want to know before hand:

when gf clicked
forever
 say (touching color [#00ffee]?) for (2) secs

Edit: Oh, and also, I'm using IE9 and Google Chrome, Flash Player version 11,4,402,287. I'm also using v.187 of Scratch's Flash project viewer.

Last edited by ErnieParke (2012-11-27 19:06:35)

Wes64 wrote:

ErnieParke wrote:

I found a glitch in the Flash Player. Apparently, it doesn't like having say blocks with conditionals in them even though it works offline and in the Java Player. Here's the link to a bug isolation project and here's the only script I have in it if you want to know before hand:

when gf clicked
forever
 say (touching color [#00ffee]?) for (2) secs

Edit: Oh, and also, I'm using IE9 and Google Chrome, Flash Player version 11,4,402,287. I'm also using v.187 of Scratch's Flash project viewer.

the glitch exists on firefox as well

Sure looks like a bug!  Thanks for the isolation project - it really helps a lot to boil the problem down to simplest terms.  I've submitted it as a bug to the tracking system.  If you need a workaround, try using the Join block to covert the testing block to a character string and then saying that.

Paddle2See wrote:

Thanks for the isolation project - it really helps a lot to boil the problem down to simplest terms.

Just want to echo Paddle2See's thanks, ErnieParke! It's super-helpful when Scratchers make a project that demos the glitch in the simplest possible terms.     Thanks!

Last edited by Lightnin (2012-11-28 17:30:49)

v 189 published!
- bug: zombie local list can be created when when first accessing a global list while dragging (smoothie project)
- bug: very large arguments to repeat fail (meteors project)

There are also numerous other changes related to the editor for Scratch 2.0, but these should be the only ones affecting the player.

Wes64 wrote:

Lightnin wrote:

Paddle2See wrote:

Thanks for the isolation project - it really helps a lot to boil the problem down to simplest terms.

Just want to echo Paddle2See's thanks, Wes64! It's super-helpful when Scratchers make a project that demos the glitch in the simplest possible terms.     Thanks!

it was actually ErnieParke who made the isolation project lol

But you did test it in Firefox, right? So, even though I did make the bug isolation project, some credit should go to you.

Lightnin wrote:

Paddle2See wrote:

Thanks for the isolation project - it really helps a lot to boil the problem down to simplest terms.

Just want to echo Paddle2See's thanks, ErnieParke! It's super-helpful when Scratchers make a project that demos the glitch in the simplest possible terms.     Thanks!

Your welcome! I'm always trying to help around. In fact, if there's a glitch in a project caused by the Flash Player, I could help hunt it down for you. ;)

Anyway, again your welcome! It's a pleasure to have helped. 

Also don't forget to give some credit to Wes64 as well. (S)he had done some testing of this glitch in Firefox, so some credit is deserved.

Last edited by ErnieParke (2012-11-28 18:49:19)

Wes64 wrote:

ErnieParke wrote:

(S)he had done some testing of this glitch in Firefox, so some credit is deserved.

is it not obvious that wes is a guy name? im just wondering because i get this a LOT.

It is obvious, but I'd rather not take chances, mainly because there's always the chance that I'm wrong. For example, it should be obvious that Ernie is a guy name, though I once got called a she by a scratcher (don't ask who).

Anyway, let's get back on topic.

Wes64 wrote:

OrcaCat wrote:

In this, the slider won't move. The author fixed it so you can change it with the arrows, but this is still a bug.

i agree, definitely a glitch

dvd4 wrote:

is this a bug ?
http://i47.tinypic.com/xqbzvo.png

RTL bug, id guess 

Yllie wrote:

http://scratch.mit.edu/projects/Yllie/2948727

In this game you are supposed to proceed to the next level when the laser beam touches the goal. It doesn't work in the flash player (And yes it works offline)
I would really appreciate if you could have a look at it, as it really ruins the game 
Thank you!

/MrY

Thanks for the report!  I've commented on your project what I think the issue is here (with the levels not changing).  It's something called a "Race Condition" that is ending up with different "Winners" on Flash versus what you were getting on Scratch 1.4 - so you are getting different behavior.  Basically, it comes down to timing issues between the two platforms.  The quick fix is to throw in a short Wait block to make sure that things happen in the sequence you intended.  A better fix is to re-do the scripts so that a race condition doesn't occur - but that's more work 

Wes64 wrote:

OrcaCat wrote:

In this, the slider won't move. The author fixed it so you can change it with the arrows, but this is still a bug.

i agree, definitely a glitch

Yeah, that looks like a bug to me.  I've written it up and added it to the bug list for the developers.  Thanks for the report.

dvd4 wrote:

is this a bug ?
http://i47.tinypic.com/xqbzvo.png

I don't think so.  I think it's you messing around with blocks in some modded version of Scratch.  Please correct me if I'm wrong and provide the link to the project.  Otherwise, Please don't spam - it's not helpful.

Paddle2See wrote:

dvd4 wrote:

is this a bug ?
http://i47.tinypic.com/xqbzvo.png

I don't think so.  I think it's you messing around with blocks in some modded version of Scratch.  Please correct me if I'm wrong and provide the link to the project.  Otherwise, Please don't spam - it's not helpful.

Look, if you don't want people to point out bugs in the flash player for you, you should close this thread.

dvd4 wrote:

Paddle2See wrote:

dvd4 wrote:

is this a bug ?
http://i47.tinypic.com/xqbzvo.png

I don't think so.  I think it's you messing around with blocks in some modded version of Scratch.  Please correct me if I'm wrong and provide the link to the project.  Otherwise, Please don't spam - it's not helpful.

Look, if you don't want people to point out bugs in the flash player for you, you should close this thread.

That's not in the Flash player.