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#1 2012-11-04 14:40:53

StarscreamClone
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Easier Noteplay

Maybe when you are constructing a song on Scratch, you could have a sort of feature that shows the measures, like you have for the paint editor, and you drag the notes on the measures, and decide the time signature and the cleff.  I think it would be a lot easier and a lot less confusing than the way it is now; you actually know how many beats are being played instead of guessing at what .5 beats is.


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#2 2012-11-04 15:23:29

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Re: Easier Noteplay

Well, since a quarter note is 1 beat, half a beat is half a quarter note, or an eighth note. There no real guessing about it.

Scratch is not meant to be a music score editor; it's a programming language (kinda). There are many other programs for editing scores.

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#3 2012-11-04 15:26:06

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Re: Easier Noteplay

kayybee wrote:

Well, since a quarter note is 1 beat, half a beat is half a quarter note, or an eighth note. There no real guessing about it.

Scratch is not meant to be a music score editor; it's a programming language (kinda). There are many other programs for editing scores.

Yeah, but this would be if you wanted to implement music in without downloading or recording something, as well as a sort of other programming aspect to it.


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#4 2012-11-04 20:18:12

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Re: Easier Noteplay

Bump.  I want your feedback on this.


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#5 2012-11-04 20:23:57

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Re: Easier Noteplay

StarscreamClone wrote:

kayybee wrote:

Well, since a quarter note is 1 beat, half a beat is half a quarter note, or an eighth note. There no real guessing about it.

Scratch is not meant to be a music score editor; it's a programming language (kinda). There are many other programs for editing scores.

Yeah, but this would be if you wanted to implement music in without downloading or recording something, as well as a sort of other programming aspect to it.

please also note that you can't just poof up a music editor; it takes a lot of work and there are people who do that as a living, like musescore developers.

and when you move on to future languages, you won't be getting score editors built in, the most you'll get is probably a function to play a note or to import a sound file.

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#6 2012-11-04 20:27:27

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Re: Easier Noteplay

kayybee wrote:

StarscreamClone wrote:

kayybee wrote:

Well, since a quarter note is 1 beat, half a beat is half a quarter note, or an eighth note. There no real guessing about it.

Scratch is not meant to be a music score editor; it's a programming language (kinda). There are many other programs for editing scores.

Yeah, but this would be if you wanted to implement music in without downloading or recording something, as well as a sort of other programming aspect to it.

please also note that you can't just poof up a music editor; it takes a lot of work and there are people who do that as a living, like musescore developers.

and when you move on to future languages, you won't be getting score editors built in, the most you'll get is probably a function to play a note or to import a sound file.

Okay then, how about having it instead of a number, you could use it so that you choose quarter note, whole note, etc.

play note [2] as a [quarter note v]
It would make it a lot easier.  Also, kayybee, you have a good argument!


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#7 2012-11-04 22:11:00

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Re: Easier Noteplay

StarscreamClone wrote:

kayybee wrote:

StarscreamClone wrote:

Yeah, but this would be if you wanted to implement music in without downloading or recording something, as well as a sort of other programming aspect to it.

please also note that you can't just poof up a music editor; it takes a lot of work and there are people who do that as a living, like musescore developers.

and when you move on to future languages, you won't be getting score editors built in, the most you'll get is probably a function to play a note or to import a sound file.

Okay then, how about having it instead of a number, you could use it so that you choose quarter note, whole note, etc.

play note [2] as a [quarter note v]
It would make it a lot easier.  Also, kayybee, you have a good argument!

what if you wanted a fifth-let (like a triplet, but 1 fifth, I don't know what it's called)?
they'd have to have an option for every beat from at least a 64th to a double whole note, with all those included tuplets.

Or we could use this method, where a quarter triplet is 1 divided by 3, so .33, which should be sufficient (just put the last one at .34). You can also get like 128 beats, or like a 32 measure long note, or longer, etc.

So using the number and some math, you can get almost any note you want...

PS. Oh, if you want some suggestions for score editors, you can use musescore.org (download) or noteflight.com (online, but limited). Garageband works too if you have a mac.

Last edited by kayybee (2012-11-04 22:12:20)

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#8 2012-11-05 08:14:47

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Re: Easier Noteplay

kayybee wrote:

StarscreamClone wrote:

kayybee wrote:

please also note that you can't just poof up a music editor; it takes a lot of work and there are people who do that as a living, like musescore developers.

and when you move on to future languages, you won't be getting score editors built in, the most you'll get is probably a function to play a note or to import a sound file.

Okay then, how about having it instead of a number, you could use it so that you choose quarter note, whole note, etc.

play note [2] as a [quarter note v]
It would make it a lot easier.  Also, kayybee, you have a good argument!

what if you wanted a fifth-let (like a triplet, but 1 fifth, I don't know what it's called)?
they'd have to have an option for every beat from at least a 64th to a double whole note, with all those included tuplets.

Or we could use this method, where a quarter triplet is 1 divided by 3, so .33, which should be sufficient (just put the last one at .34). You can also get like 128 beats, or like a 32 measure long note, or longer, etc.

So using the number and some math, you can get almost any note you want...

PS. Oh, if you want some suggestions for score editors, you can use musescore.org (download) or noteflight.com (online, but limited). Garageband works too if you have a mac.

And you'd also have to specify what the time symbol was, because notes have different values in 6/8, 2/2, 4/4, etc.
It would just be easier to have the counting value.

Last edited by Mokat (2012-11-05 08:15:33)


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