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#126 2012-10-27 01:54:58

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Re: Scratch 2.0 Projects' Viewer Programmed In Javascript and HTML5

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JsScratch Works in xbox

Then what is the point of creating another one?
Are you targeting some other system that mine doesn't work on?

GOT IT! After supporting HTML5 users with Canvas, we will work on adding HTML4 support. It is possible, but jQuery would be involved with it.


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#127 2012-10-27 10:28:39

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Re: Scratch 2.0 Projects' Viewer Programmed In Javascript and HTML5

GP1 wrote:

MathWizz wrote:

Pitusky12 wrote:

JsScratch Works in xbox

Then what is the point of creating another one?
Are you targeting some other system that mine doesn't work on?

GOT IT! After supporting HTML5 users with Canvas, we will work on adding HTML4 support. It is possible, but jQuery would be involved with it.

Yeah!  big_smile


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#128 2012-10-27 10:48:59

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Re: Scratch 2.0 Projects' Viewer Programmed In Javascript and HTML5

srry but there is a problem with my github application so I just put my code on a weebly website in a compressed folder, here is the website with my code: http://jscratch.weebly.com/

I have almost the entire layout coded but I used pbfy0 code to start so... we should give him partial credit if we use my code.

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#129 2012-10-27 11:17:47

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Re: Scratch 2.0 Projects' Viewer Programmed In Javascript and HTML5

al-x wrote:

I have almost the entire layout coded but I used pbfy0 code to start so... we should give him partial credit if we use my code.

It's illegal* to use his/her code at all without permission.

* Except for fair use, which most likely doesn't apply here due to the large amount of material used

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#130 2012-10-27 11:17:53

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Re: Scratch 2.0 Projects' Viewer Programmed In Javascript and HTML5

al-x wrote:

srry but there is a problem with my github application so I just put my code on a weebly website in a compressed folder, here is the website with my code: http://jscratch.weebly.com/

I have almost the entire layout coded but I used pbfy0 code to start so... we should give him partial credit if we use my code.

Ok, cool! Ill take a look at it.


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#131 2012-10-27 11:19:53

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Re: Scratch 2.0 Projects' Viewer Programmed In Javascript and HTML5

Hey, jscratch.tk is down. Anybody know why?


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#132 2012-10-27 12:49:00

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Re: Scratch 2.0 Projects' Viewer Programmed In Javascript and HTML5

AHH! I messed up. Before, I was using the Windows application for GitHub, right? Well, I'm using a different computer that has Ubuntu on it, and I have the Git console extension. I pulled, made changes, and pushed. But I accidently pushed to the master branch, which created a new branch called master. What Git Bash command can I use to push to the gh-pages? And how can I delete the new master branch?

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#133 2012-10-27 12:54:11

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Re: Scratch 2.0 Projects' Viewer Programmed In Javascript and HTML5

nXIII wrote:

al-x wrote:

I have almost the entire layout coded but I used pbfy0 code to start so... we should give him partial credit if we use my code.

It's illegal* to use his/her code at all without permission.

* Except for fair use, which most likely doesn't apply here due to the large amount of material used

It is not illegal as long as you give credit. If they did not want peopl to look at it a use it they should not have put it on github. Open-source means you are allowed to use the code bt you have to give credit.

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#134 2012-10-27 13:43:48

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Re: Scratch 2.0 Projects' Viewer Programmed In Javascript and HTML5

al-x wrote:

It is not illegal as long as you give credit. If they did not want people to look at it and use it they should not have put it on github. Open-source means you are allowed to use the code but you have to give credit.

That's not how copyright law works. 17 USC § 106 guarantees copyright owners exclusive rights; among them is the right "to prepare derivative works based upon the copyrighted work" (e.g., create modifications the source).

Since the source contains no license granting other rights to people obtaining the source code, GitHub's Terms of Service is the only other document which applies here. It states that "By setting your repositories to be viewed publicly, you agree to allow others to view and fork your repositories." This means that you can (a) look at the source code and (b) create a copy of it, but does not grant you any of the other rights reserved by the copyright holder, viz. the ability to create derivative works.

You're right that most open-source licenses require that you give attribution to make derivative works, but since the source code in question has no license at all, giving attribution is not enough to grant you the right to make derivative works.

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#135 2012-10-27 15:53:12

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Re: Scratch 2.0 Projects' Viewer Programmed In Javascript and HTML5

GP1: I dont know why jscratch.tk is down,and : http://matthew-brett.github.com/pydagogue/gh_delete_master.html
al-x:Yeah Its Not Ilegal!  smile
nXlll:Why dont you just leave us alone if youre not gonna help,


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#136 2012-10-27 16:21:18

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Re: Scratch 2.0 Projects' Viewer Programmed In Javascript and HTML5

Pitusky12 wrote:

al-x:Yeah Its Not Ilegal!  smile
nXlll:Why dont you just leave us alone if youre not gonna help,

I am trying to help you; sorry if it's not coming across like that. Learning about copyright law and software licensing is an important part of learning to program. I'm just pointing out that what you are doing right now infringes on some copyrights, and as such is illegal. If you want to use the source code you have right now, you can try to contact pbfy0 and/or the author of the PHP code and ask them to license their source code or give you written permission to use it.

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#137 2012-10-27 16:26:34

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Re: Scratch 2.0 Projects' Viewer Programmed In Javascript and HTML5

Pitusky12 wrote:

GP1: I dont know why jscratch.tk is down,and : http://matthew-brett.github.com/pydagogue/gh_delete_master.html
al-x:Yeah Its Not Ilegal!  smile
nXlll:Why dont you just leave us alone if youre not gonna help,

Actually, sorry to say, nXIII is right. Copyright law states that if you are the original owner of the work, you automaticly gain copy rights to it, and you can use the copyright symbol if you like. So, we either have to get permission OR they have to have a licence we can use to redistribute their work.

So, we can't take their work and modify it. However, we CAN use their code as an aid for writing new code, since their code is open source. Which I'm totally okay with doing.

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#138 2012-10-27 16:29:13

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Re: Scratch 2.0 Projects' Viewer Programmed In Javascript and HTML5

GP1, the site is back up. I need to fully finish my php script, it's currently downloading the code everytime you load the website. I think it was github causing the downtime.


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#139 2012-10-27 16:36:35

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Re: Scratch 2.0 Projects' Viewer Programmed In Javascript and HTML5

pwiter wrote:

GP1, the site is back up. I need to fully finish my php script, it's currently downloading the code everytime you load the website. I think it was github causing the downtime.

Okay. Oh hey, can you delete the master branch on the repository for me? I keep getting 502 errors. Merge the master to the gh-pages so my commits take effect, then delete the master.


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#140 2012-10-27 16:52:25

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Re: Scratch 2.0 Projects' Viewer Programmed In Javascript and HTML5

GP1 wrote:

pwiter wrote:

GP1, the site is back up. I need to fully finish my php script, it's currently downloading the code everytime you load the website. I think it was github causing the downtime.

Okay. Oh hey, can you delete the master branch on the repository for me? I keep getting 502 errors. Merge the master to the gh-pages so my commits take effect, then delete the master.

Ok.


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#141 2012-10-27 16:57:33

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Re: Scratch 2.0 Projects' Viewer Programmed In Javascript and HTML5

nXIII wrote:

Pitusky12 wrote:

al-x:Yeah Its Not Ilegal!  smile
nXlll:Why dont you just leave us alone if youre not gonna help,

I am trying to help you; sorry if it's not coming across like that. Learning about copyright law and software licensing is an important part of learning to program. I'm just pointing out that what you are doing right now infringes on some copyrights, and as such is illegal. If you want to use the source code you have right now, you can try to contact pbfy0 and/or the author of the PHP code and ask them to license their source code or give you written permission to use it.

oh okay thanks!


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#142 2012-10-27 17:02:30

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Re: Scratch 2.0 Projects' Viewer Programmed In Javascript and HTML5

pwiter wrote:

GP1, the site is back up. I need to fully finish my php script, it's currently downloading the code everytime you load the website. I think it was github causing the downtime.

Well, what host are you using? Most free hosts let you run a php script automaticly through a timer-like thing.


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#143 2012-10-27 17:07:44

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Re: Scratch 2.0 Projects' Viewer Programmed In Javascript and HTML5

pwiter wrote:

GP1 wrote:

pwiter wrote:

GP1, the site is back up. I need to fully finish my php script, it's currently downloading the code everytime you load the website. I think it was github causing the downtime.

Okay. Oh hey, can you delete the master branch on the repository for me? I keep getting 502 errors. Merge the master to the gh-pages so my commits take effect, then delete the master.

Ok.

Thanks.


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#144 2012-10-27 17:14:27

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Re: Scratch 2.0 Projects' Viewer Programmed In Javascript and HTML5

so my code is kind of useless srry guys and srry nXIII for kind of snapping at you. Ill write new code thats mine.

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#145 2012-10-27 17:25:38

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Re: Scratch 2.0 Projects' Viewer Programmed In Javascript and HTML5

al-x wrote:

so my code is kind of useless srry guys and srry nXIII for kind of snapping at you. Ill write new code thats mine.

Work collaberativly with us in the git. That way, it will get done faster.


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#146 2012-10-27 17:35:06

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Re: Scratch 2.0 Projects' Viewer Programmed In Javascript and HTML5

GP1 wrote:

al-x wrote:

so my code is kind of useless srry guys and srry nXIII for kind of snapping at you. Ill write new code thats mine.

Work collaberativly with us in the git. That way, it will get done faster.

I cant my github application wont work.

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#147 2012-10-27 17:38:02

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al-x wrote:

GP1 wrote:

al-x wrote:

so my code is kind of useless srry guys and srry nXIII for kind of snapping at you. Ill write new code thats mine.

Work collaberativly with us in the git. That way, it will get done faster.

I cant my github application wont work.

Ooooohhhhhh. Are you using the Windows version, because I think it only works on Windows 8 and Windows 7.


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#148 2012-10-27 17:39:51

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Re: Scratch 2.0 Projects' Viewer Programmed In Javascript and HTML5

pwiter wrote:

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How do we uncompress the .sb2 file? What format is it compressed in?

It's a zip i think.

Yep, its a zip. That makes it easy for us, since PHP has that zip function in it. This is ALOT easier than the 1.4 format (I never even completely understood it, but we should eventually support it).


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#149 2012-10-27 17:42:10

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Re: Scratch 2.0 Projects' Viewer Programmed In Javascript and HTML5

al-x wrote:

GP1 wrote:

al-x wrote:

so my code is kind of useless srry guys and srry nXIII for kind of snapping at you. Ill write new code thats mine.

Work collaberativly with us in the git. That way, it will get done faster.

I cant my github application wont work.

but ill try my best  smile

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#150 2012-10-27 17:54:15

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Re: Scratch 2.0 Projects' Viewer Programmed In Javascript and HTML5

al-x wrote:

al-x wrote:

GP1 wrote:


Work collaberativly with us in the git. That way, it will get done faster.

I cant my github application wont work.

but ill try my best  smile

What operating system do you have?


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