alldaykade28471 wrote:
jvvg wrote:
Claude_Monet wrote:
A vote is used to tell the government what you think should happen.
So if you like a libertarian, voting for him would be using your vote to it's potential, while if you vote for some guy you really don't like, you're wasting your vote.I don't quite think you understood what I was saying. The quote means that you are wasting your vote if not voting for a Democrat or Republican, because they have essentially zero chance at winning President.
I clicked the link in your signature. xD
Which one? The tax plan or the project?
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jvvg wrote:
alldaykade28471 wrote:
jvvg wrote:
I don't quite think you understood what I was saying. The quote means that you are wasting your vote if not voting for a Democrat or Republican, because they have essentially zero chance at winning President.I clicked the link in your signature. xD
Which one? The tax plan or the project?
The tax one.
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alldaykade28471 wrote:
jvvg wrote:
alldaykade28471 wrote:
I clicked the link in your signature. xDWhich one? The tax plan or the project?
The tax one.
Ah, yes. It's pretty funny (but yet, true).
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In less than 4 years as president, Obama has added nearly twice as much debt than Bush did in 8 years. Now thats definetly not amazing.
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CN12 wrote:
In less than 4 years as president, Obama has added nearly twice as much debt than Bush did in 8 years. Now thats definetly not amazing.
exactly!
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CN12 wrote:
In less than 4 years as president, Obama has added nearly twice as much debt than Bush did in 8 years. Now thats definetly not amazing.
*that's, definitely
But that's largely because of the two wars Bush started
And no one ever said Obama was perfect, the debt is something against him, but it doesn't outweigh what he has done.
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soupoftomato wrote:
CN12 wrote:
In less than 4 years as president, Obama has added nearly twice as much debt than Bush did in 8 years. Now thats definetly not amazing.
*that's, definitely
But that's largely because of the two wars Bush started
And no one ever said Obama was perfect, the debt is something against him, but it doesn't outweigh what he has done.
The debt didn't start when Obama was president, and the economy has grown ever since.
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CN12 wrote:
In less than 4 years as president, Obama has added nearly twice as much debt than Bush did in 8 years. Now thats definetly not amazing.
A lot of the debt was a result of two (now one) war(s) going on. Who started these wars? Oh, right, Bush.
Before you start saying something about bailouts, the government actually made a net profit off a bunch of those bailouts.
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soupoftomato wrote:
CN12 wrote:
In less than 4 years as president, Obama has added nearly twice as much debt than Bush did in 8 years. Now thats definetly not amazing.
*that's, definitely
But that's largely because of the two wars Bush started
And no one ever said Obama was perfect, the debt is something against him, but it doesn't outweigh what he has done.
If bush didn't start those was, the Arab spring in 2004.
Many people blame the horrible stuff Obama did on bush. While his economy plans were feces, his foreign policies were actually quite thought out.
(end response)
'We have no purpose being in the middle east'
No purpose? They killed 3,000 Americans in two hours! I should think we have every right to be in there.
'But Osama bin laden is dead! Everything is dandy!'
Dandy? Let me ask you something, was the Arab spring 'dandy'? How about a month ago, when the ambassador was dead, was that dandy?
'Well, it was all bush's fault he died'
No. NOTHING bush did would've resulted in that, and even if it was, Obama could have stopped it before anyone was fatally hurt. They were 30 minutes away from an American millitary settlement, nothing happened.
'No! I heard on MSNBC that... and I did no further research to back it up! It must be true!'
No, anything from MSNBC is generally biased and unresearched, like the Trayvon Martin shooting.
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Claude_Monet wrote:
soupoftomato wrote:
CN12 wrote:
In less than 4 years as president, Obama has added nearly twice as much debt than Bush did in 8 years. Now thats definetly not amazing.
*that's, definitely
But that's largely because of the two wars Bush started
And no one ever said Obama was perfect, the debt is something against him, but it doesn't outweigh what he has done.If bush didn't start those was, the Arab spring in 2004. What? That makes no sense
Many people blame the horrible stuff Obama did on bush. While his economy plans were [rude word removed before a moderator removes it], his foreign policies were actually quite thought out. And yet somehow, he started two wars we really shouldn't have started
(end response)
'We have no purpose being in the middle east'
No purpose? They killed 3,000 Americans in two hours! I should think we have every right to be in there. That was a result of the video. The only way to have prevented that would be to censor the internet, and I really hope you don't want that.
'But Osama bin laden is dead! Everything is dandy!' That's actually nowhere near what people are saying that. While killing him was a big step, everyone (including, and especially Obama) realize that it's not the final one
Dandy? Let me ask you something, was the Arab spring 'dandy'? How about a month ago, when the ambassador was dead, was that dandy?
'Well, it was all bush's fault he died'
No. NOTHING bush did would've resulted in that, and even if it was, Obama could have stopped it before anyone was fatally hurt. They were 30 minutes away from an American millitary settlement, nothing happened.
'No! I heard on MSNBC that... and I did no further research to back it up! It must be true!'
No, anything from MSNBC is generally biased and unresearched, like the Trayvon Martin shooting. Speaking of biased and unresearched, I think your claim is. You just said it, and didn't back it up in any way. Also, I think that Fox is even more biased, such as their attacking Obama for the use of "non-optimal" to describe the attacks, while that was actually in a Jon Stewart interview and he was just replying using Jon Stewart's wording.
Also, I actually live rather close to the Trayvon Martin case, and probably know a lot more about it than you do.
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I watched a clip from the presidential debate of the other night.
Romney said: "We have fewer navy ships in the military now than we did in 1916..."
Then Obama fired back and said: "Well, Governor, we also have fewer horses and bayonets than we did in 1916!"
Owned.
Romney must've looked like an idiot xD
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CylonToast wrote:
I watched a clip from the presidential debate of the other night.
Romney said: "We have fewer navy ships in the military now than we did in 1916..."
Then Obama fired back and said: "Well, Governor, we also have fewer horses and bayonets!"
Owned.
Romney must've looked like an idiot xD
Yes, my favorite part of the elections
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CylonToast wrote:
I watched a clip from the presidential debate of the other night.
Romney said: "We have fewer navy ships in the military now than we did in 1916..."
Then Obama fired back and said: "Well, Governor, we also have fewer horses and bayonets!"
Owned.
Romney must've looked like an idiot xD
That was actually pretty arogant for the President of the United states
It was also incorrect, we still use horses for steep and rugged terrain and bayonets are very much common.
What he said after which went something like 'we don't need the navy, or ships, we have aircraft carriers!' made no sense and contradicted what he said earlier about having a strong naval presence in the Pacific.
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luiysia wrote:
CatPerson wrote:
Mitt Romeny is not successful, Ill leave it there, hes just rich. Anyways. Even if his tax plans were decent, and his ideas were decent, and he did support gay marrage. I wouldnt vote for him. He strapped his family dog , an Irish Setter, to the topof the car while going on a 12 hour family trip Just look at my sig. If dogs could vote, only like 18% of voters would be voting for him XD
Are you serious? You would base your vote on a poor decision he made years ago? What effect does that have on his ability to be President? Does it significantly reflect on his character? At most, it maybe shows that he was pretty dumb back then. Also, there are more Republicans than dogs in the US.
Nice job. I hate it that the Obama supporters are so desperate, they put "Obama 2012" in their signatures. No offense, Obama.
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jvvg wrote:
Claude_Monet wrote:
soupoftomato wrote:
*that's, definitely
But that's largely because of the two wars Bush started
And no one ever said Obama was perfect, the debt is something against him, but it doesn't outweigh what he has done.If bush didn't start those was, the Arab spring in 2004. What? That makes no sense
Many people blame the horrible stuff Obama did on bush. While his economy plans were [rude word removed before a moderator removes it], his foreign policies were actually quite thought out. And yet somehow, he started two wars we really shouldn't have started
(end response)
'We have no purpose being in the middle east'
No purpose? They killed 3,000 Americans in two hours! I should think we have every right to be in there. That was a result of the video. The only way to have prevented that would be to censor the internet, and I really hope you don't want that.
'But Osama bin laden is dead! Everything is dandy!' That's actually nowhere near what people are saying that. While killing him was a big step, everyone (including, and especially Obama) realize that it's not the final one
Dandy? Let me ask you something, was the Arab spring 'dandy'? How about a month ago, when the ambassador was dead, was that dandy?
'Well, it was all bush's fault he died'
No. NOTHING bush did would've resulted in that, and even if it was, Obama could have stopped it before anyone was fatally hurt. They were 30 minutes away from an American millitary settlement, nothing happened.
'No! I heard on MSNBC that... and I did no further research to back it up! It must be true!'
No, anything from MSNBC is generally biased and unresearched, like the Trayvon Martin shooting. Speaking of biased and unresearched, I think your claim is. You just said it, and didn't back it up in any way. Also, I think that Fox is even more biased, such as their attacking Obama for the use of "non-optimal" to describe the attacks, while that was actually in a Jon Stewart interview and he was just replying using Jon Stewart's wording.
Also, I actually live rather close to the Trayvon Martin case, and probably know a lot more about it than you do.
I don't understand Obama supporters...
"I think when you spread the wealth around, it's good for everybody." —Barack Obama Cincinnati, OH, Sept. 22, 2011
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Claude_Monet wrote:
CylonToast wrote:
I watched a clip from the presidential debate of the other night.
Romney said: "We have fewer navy ships in the military now than we did in 1916..."
Then Obama fired back and said: "Well, Governor, we also have fewer horses and bayonets!"
Owned.
Romney must've looked like an idiot xDThat was actually pretty arogant for the President of the United states
It was also incorrect, we still use horses for steep and rugged terrain and bayonets are very much common.
What he said after which went something like 'we don't need the navy, or ships, we have aircraft carriers!' made no sense and contradicted what he said earlier about having a strong naval presence in the Pacific.
Not to mention it contradicted it's self.
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OrcaCat wrote:
luiysia wrote:
CatPerson wrote:
Mitt Romeny is not successful, Ill leave it there, hes just rich. Anyways. Even if his tax plans were decent, and his ideas were decent, and he did support gay marrage. I wouldnt vote for him. He strapped his family dog , an Irish Setter, to the topof the car while going on a 12 hour family trip Just look at my sig. If dogs could vote, only like 18% of voters would be voting for him XD
Are you serious? You would base your vote on a poor decision he made years ago? What effect does that have on his ability to be President? Does it significantly reflect on his character? At most, it maybe shows that he was pretty dumb back then. Also, there are more Republicans than dogs in the US.
Nice job. I hate it that the no, some, but assuredly not all... Obama supporters are so desperate, they put "Obama 2012" in their signatures. No offense, Obama.
And some of the Romney supporters do to. So what? …
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16Skittles wrote:
Claude_Monet wrote:
Hey, think of it this way
Vote for Mr. Romney and if he fails horribly as some 97% of this community seems to think, you can point and laugh, but if he succeeds, everyone will be happyThink of it this way. Vote for Obama and if he fails horribly as some 3% of this community seems to think, you can point and laugh, but if he succeeds, everyone will be happy.
He already failed horribly. XD
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OrcaCat wrote:
jvvg wrote:
Claude_Monet wrote:
If bush didn't start those was, the Arab spring in 2004. What? That makes no sense
Many people blame the horrible stuff Obama did on bush. While his economy plans were [rude word removed before a moderator removes it], his foreign policies were actually quite thought out. And yet somehow, he started two wars we really shouldn't have started
(end response)
'We have no purpose being in the middle east'
No purpose? They killed 3,000 Americans in two hours! I should think we have every right to be in there. That was a result of the video. The only way to have prevented that would be to censor the internet, and I really hope you don't want that.
'But Osama bin laden is dead! Everything is dandy!' That's actually nowhere near what people are saying that. While killing him was a big step, everyone (including, and especially Obama) realize that it's not the final one
Dandy? Let me ask you something, was the Arab spring 'dandy'? How about a month ago, when the ambassador was dead, was that dandy?
'Well, it was all bush's fault he died'
No. NOTHING bush did would've resulted in that, and even if it was, Obama could have stopped it before anyone was fatally hurt. They were 30 minutes away from an American millitary settlement, nothing happened.
'No! I heard on MSNBC that... and I did no further research to back it up! It must be true!'
No, anything from MSNBC is generally biased and unresearched, like the Trayvon Martin shooting. Speaking of biased and unresearched, I think your claim is. You just said it, and didn't back it up in any way. Also, I think that Fox is even more biased, such as their attacking Obama for the use of "non-optimal" to describe the attacks, while that was actually in a Jon Stewart interview and he was just replying using Jon Stewart's wording.
Also, I actually live rather close to the Trayvon Martin case, and probably know a lot more about it than you do.I don't understand Obama supporters...
"I think when you spread the wealth around, it's good for everybody." —Barack Obama Cincinnati, OH, Sept. 22, 2011
So it's good to have people who were born billionaires and haven't lifted a finger in their lives, and people who live on the street who work hard very day, and have most/all of their lives? Where is the logic in that?
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OrcaCat wrote:
16Skittles wrote:
Claude_Monet wrote:
Hey, think of it this way
Vote for Mr. Romney and if he fails horribly as some 97% of this community seems to think, you can point and laugh, but if he succeeds, everyone will be happyThink of it this way. Vote for Obama and if he fails horribly as some 3% of this community seems to think, you can point and laugh, but if he succeeds, everyone will be happy.
He already failed horribly. XD
Nope. He inherited a steeply dropping economy when he took the presidency, an it's on the track to recovery. It's a lot easier to break something than to build it (back) up. *cough*bush*cough*
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jvvg wrote:
Claude_Monet wrote:
soupoftomato wrote:
*that's, definitely
But that's largely because of the two wars Bush started
And no one ever said Obama was perfect, the debt is something against him, but it doesn't outweigh what he has done.What? That makes no sense
If bush didn't start those wars, the Arab spring would have occured in 2004.
And yet somehow, he started two wars we really shouldn't have started
Shouldn't have been started? Without them we wouldn't have found bin laden, which you credit Obama so heavily for.
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That was a result of the video. The only way to have prevented that would be to censor the internet, and I really hope you don't want that.
If it was from a YouTube video, why were the extremists angry at America and not the video maker? I'm also not for Internet censorship, it's just something the government's wants to do that they could just leave to the people.
That's actually nowhere near what people are saying that. While killing him was a big step, everyone (including, and especially Obama) realize that it's not the final one
I've heard people mention it from time to time.
Speaking of biased and unresearched, I think your claim is. You just said it, and didn't back it up in any way. Also, I think that Fox is even more biased, such as their attacking Obama for the use of "non-optimal" to describe the attacks, while that was actually in a Jon Stewart interview and he was just replying using Jon Stewart's wording.
Also, I actually live rather close to the Trayvon Martin case, and probably know a lot more about it than you do.Just because I dislike Obama doesn't mean I worship Glenn beck or any other newscaster, after I hear a story on fox, I generally check with other news stations or websites to get my own opinion, for example, MSNBC said George Zimmerman was a crazed, rascist killer. I then checked with CNN who said George thought he was a criminal, but was wrong. I then checked fox who said Trayvon was a terrible killer who threatened George's live, so he tried to defend himself. Also, living closer to an event gives you almost no credibility, unless you were a witness
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zubblewu wrote:
OrcaCat wrote:
jvvg wrote:
I don't understand Obama supporters...
"I think when you spread the wealth around, it's good for everybody." —Barack Obama Cincinnati, OH, Sept. 22, 2011So it's good to have people who were born billionaires and haven't lifted a finger in their lives, and people who live on the street who work hard very day, and have most/all of their lives? Where is the logic in that?
People can't be born billionaires. Most work hard for it, and some inherit it from their parents who work hard after they die, after the child has probably been pressured into being perfect.
And yes, poverty is sad, but if you're poor because you were too lazy too get up and find work, then you should be frowned at especially since there is a job hiring in a two mile radius of any city.
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Claude_Monet wrote:
especially since there is a job hiring in a two mile radius of any city.
Proof?
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alldaykade28471 wrote:
Claude_Monet wrote:
especially since there is a job hiring in a two mile radius of any city.
Proof?
Walk outside for a couple hours in a urban area, they're not too hard to find.
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OrcaCat wrote:
luiysia wrote:
CatPerson wrote:
Mitt Romeny is not successful, Ill leave it there, hes just rich. Anyways. Even if his tax plans were decent, and his ideas were decent, and he did support gay marrage. I wouldnt vote for him. He strapped his family dog , an Irish Setter, to the topof the car while going on a 12 hour family trip Just look at my sig. If dogs could vote, only like 18% of voters would be voting for him XD
Are you serious? You would base your vote on a poor decision he made years ago? What effect does that have on his ability to be President? Does it significantly reflect on his character? At most, it maybe shows that he was pretty dumb back then. Also, there are more Republicans than dogs in the US.
Nice job. I hate it that the Obama supporters are so desperate, they put "Obama 2012" in their signatures. No offense, Obama.
"No offense" doesn't excuse you nor does it make it any less of an insult
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