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backspace_ wrote:

16Skittles wrote:

>> Says I'm a sheep
>> I ask him to explain his reasoning
>> Ignored
>> This guy...

I think that a tax plan that will hurt the economy and a desire to start more middle eastern wars is a pretty good argument against a candidate, and that isn't even including topics like marriage equality and so on.

Edit: 4444th post 

That's a cool story there bro.
I was just to lazy to research on this, it was a little late :B
http://www.mittromney.com/issues/spending
Here's one that talks about spending according to the governer.
http://www.mittromney.com/JobsPlan?gcli … nAodEXsApw
Here's one that talks about tax cuts and job increase.


For me choosing a candidate, it really comes down to Democrats lie outside most of my moral beliefs, and also that Obama's HSS Mandate forces companies to fund abortion, even if it is against their moral values, essentially breaking the right to religious freedom.

Ohgosh
who designed that

the bookmark tag thing at the top D:

aside from that, this topic has gotten out of hand and I'm too lazy to form any more opinions

Last edited by soupoftomato (2012-10-20 09:30:56)

MoreGamesNow wrote:

OverPowered wrote:

On a nonrelated note, I also believe that Puerto Rico and Washington D.C. should be states. Otherwise, as some D.C. license plates will tell you, it's taxation without representation.
Of course, these states would vote heavily Democratic... Interesting that these approx. 2.5M people can't yet vote, neh?

and the 70,000,000ish Americans who are younger than 18    (believe it or not, I haven't been able to find this statistic online, though 60 million are between 0 and 14 and the percentage of the 18-and-younger population went from 31% to 26% between 1950 and 2000; using this data, I've approximated the number at 70 million).

Ok.
Another interesting statistic: generally between 50% and 70% of registered voters vote in any given presidential election.

Mokat wrote:

jvvg wrote:

MoreGamesNow wrote:

and the 70,000,000ish Americans who are younger than 18    (believe it or not, I haven't been able to find this statistic online, though 60 million are between 0 and 14 and the percentage of the 18-and-younger population went from 31% to 26% between 1950 and 2000; using this data, I've approximated the number at 70 million).

Ok.
Another interesting statistic: generally between 50% and 70% of registered voters vote in any given presidential election.

Interesting.
My Social Studies teacher always tells us that when we're old enough to vote, we should always vote because then you at least have some say in the outcome.

Yeah, I agree with that. I guess not everybody has your teacher. 

I also predict that it will probably be at least 70% this election (although I might be wrong).

*Ahem*

"If you've got a business, you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen."
              -Obama. Roanoke, VA, 7/13/12

America needs jobs.

For 42 straight months, unemployment has remained over 8%.(*1)

23 million Americans are unemployed, underemployed, or have given up looking for work.(*2)

Over 300,000 jobs lost since Obama took office 4 years ago.(*3)

"The slowest growth in a year adds to worries that the economy could be stalling three years after the recession ended."
               -The Associated Press, 7/27/12

Rather than working to rebuild our economy, Obama has been waiting for "somebody else" to do it.

Maybe that's why it has been 192 days since Obama has met with his Jobs Council.(*4)

Or maybe that's why he has more time to attend more than 100 political fundraisers and play more than 10 rounds of golf.(*5)

-------------------------------------------

Mitt Romney is a businessman who knows that people build businesses through hard work and innovation.

Romney knows this because he has lived it - helping entrepreneurs start companies like Staples and Bright Horizons.

On day one, Mitt Romney will put job creation first to get America working.

Romney has a plan that will create jobs, grow the economy, and help the middle class.

Lower tax rates across the board
Expand domestic energy production
Stand up to China's unfair trade practices
Repeal and replace Obamacare with market-based, patient-centered reforms that work.

Americans do build businesses on their own, and they deserve a president who believes that, too.


*1=Bureau Of Labor Statistics.
*2=Bureau Of Labor Statistics.
*3=Bureau Of Labor Statistics
*4=Meetings of the Presidents Council on Jobs and Competitveness.
*5=CBS's Mark Knoller, Twitter Feed.


Sorry for all the text. It's from a flyer we got in the mail.

And good news! There is a intersection outside of our neighborhood, and someone put up THREE signs that say, "Romney Ryan"!!!!!

zubblewu wrote:

CN12 wrote:

*Ahem*

"If you've got a business, you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen."
              -Obama. Roanoke, VA, 7/13/12

America needs jobs.

For 42 straight months, unemployment has remained over 8%.(*1)

23 million Americans are unemployed, underemployed, or have given up looking for work.(*2)

Over 300,000 jobs lost since Obama took office 4 years ago.(*3)

"The slowest growth in a year adds to worries that the economy could be stalling three years after the recession ended."
               -The Associated Press, 7/27/12

Rather than working to rebuild our economy, Obama has been waiting for "somebody else" to do it.

Maybe that's why it has been 192 days since Obama has met with his Jobs Council.(*4)

Or maybe that's why he has more time to attend more than 100 political fundraisers and play more than 10 rounds of golf.(*5)

-------------------------------------------

Mitt Romney is a businessman who knows that people build businesses through hard work and innovation.

Romney knows this because he has lived it - helping entrepreneurs start companies like Staples and Bright Horizons.

On day one, Mitt Romney will put job creation first to get America working.

Romney has a plan that will create jobs, grow the economy, and help the middle class.

Lower tax rates across the board
Expand domestic energy production
Stand up to China's unfair trade practices
Repeal and replace Obamacare with market-based, patient-centered reforms that work.

Americans do build businesses on their own, and they deserve a president who believes that, too.


*1=Bureau Of Labor Statistics.
*2=Bureau Of Labor Statistics.
*3=Bureau Of Labor Statistics
*4=Meetings of the Presidents Council on Jobs and Competitveness.
*5=CBS's Mark Knoller, Twitter Feed.


Sorry for all the text. It's from a flyer we got in the mail.

And good news! There is a intersection outside of our neighborhood, and someone put up THREE signs that say, "Romney Ryan"!!!!!

A flyer you got in the mail. By the romney campaign. Because that won't be biased at all... And it won't lie at all...

Sure it might be biased but no one knows Romney's plan better than Romney so how do you know it's lying?

CN12 wrote:

"If you've got a business, you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen."

Didn't we establish a bunch of pages back that that was one of the lies Mitt Romney told?
"If you've got that quote, he didn't say that!" 

If you listened to the whole thing (or even a few more seconds on each end of the clip), it was pretty clear that Obama was referring to public resources such as roads, not your business. So, then Romney had the brilliant idea of basing half of the Republican convention on something Obama DIDN'T ACTUALLY SAY!

CN12 wrote:

zubblewu wrote:

CN12 wrote:

*Ahem*

"If you've got a business, you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen."
              -Obama. Roanoke, VA, 7/13/12

America needs jobs.

For 42 straight months, unemployment has remained over 8%.(*1)

23 million Americans are unemployed, underemployed, or have given up looking for work.(*2)

Over 300,000 jobs lost since Obama took office 4 years ago.(*3)

"The slowest growth in a year adds to worries that the economy could be stalling three years after the recession ended."
               -The Associated Press, 7/27/12

Rather than working to rebuild our economy, Obama has been waiting for "somebody else" to do it.

Maybe that's why it has been 192 days since Obama has met with his Jobs Council.(*4)

Or maybe that's why he has more time to attend more than 100 political fundraisers and play more than 10 rounds of golf.(*5)

-------------------------------------------

Mitt Romney is a businessman who knows that people build businesses through hard work and innovation.

Romney knows this because he has lived it - helping entrepreneurs start companies like Staples and Bright Horizons.

On day one, Mitt Romney will put job creation first to get America working.

Romney has a plan that will create jobs, grow the economy, and help the middle class.

Lower tax rates across the board
Expand domestic energy production
Stand up to China's unfair trade practices
Repeal and replace Obamacare with market-based, patient-centered reforms that work.

Americans do build businesses on their own, and they deserve a president who believes that, too.


*1=Bureau Of Labor Statistics.
*2=Bureau Of Labor Statistics.
*3=Bureau Of Labor Statistics
*4=Meetings of the Presidents Council on Jobs and Competitveness.
*5=CBS's Mark Knoller, Twitter Feed.


Sorry for all the text. It's from a flyer we got in the mail.

And good news! There is a intersection outside of our neighborhood, and someone put up THREE signs that say, "Romney Ryan"!!!!!

A flyer you got in the mail. By the romney campaign. Because that won't be biased at all... And it won't lie at all...

Sure it might be biased but no one knows Romney's plan better than Romney so how do you know it's lying?

You've used the quote that we have said was fake MANY times already.
Look up the whole address and read it, not just the out of context and edited quote.

16Skittles wrote:

CN12 wrote:

Sure it might be biased but no one knows Romney's plan better than Romney so how do you know it's lying?

No one knows Romney's plan besides Romney, so how do you know it will work?

I don't think even Romney knows it. 

He just says he'll cut deductions, but I'm guessing he has no idea which ones.

jvvg wrote:

CN12 wrote:

zubblewu wrote:

A flyer you got in the mail. By the romney campaign. Because that won't be biased at all... And it won't lie at all...

Sure it might be biased but no one knows Romney's plan better than Romney so how do you know it's lying?

Just because he knows his plan (decrease taxes and increase spending) doesn't mean that he actually will carry it out or is telling the truth about it.

And, if he wants the reputation for helping start businesses, he really should address the fact that he also bankrupted a bunch of businesses. Or is that another one of the things he's going to intentionally ignore?

I also like how Romney thinks that healthcare for all Americans is bad. The Affordable Care Act has brought healthcare to lots of Americans who need it. Romney's idea? Just repeal it, so people lose their health insurance. Great idea, isn't it? Isn't it such a great idea to take healthcare away from a bunch of people who just got it?

I hope he stops the act before the taxes on it take effect. I mean, the act was considered constitutional as a tax. Obama just passed a tax and all the Democrats are like, "woohoo, yeah, woohoo, this will barely even affect our life directly too much but we still love it because Obama told us it's good!"

And also the mandate will probably murder more babies :'(

backspace_ wrote:

jvvg wrote:

CN12 wrote:

Sure it might be biased but no one knows Romney's plan better than Romney so how do you know it's lying?

Just because he knows his plan (decrease taxes and increase spending) doesn't mean that he actually will carry it out or is telling the truth about it.

And, if he wants the reputation for helping start businesses, he really should address the fact that he also bankrupted a bunch of businesses. Or is that another one of the things he's going to intentionally ignore?

I also like how Romney thinks that healthcare for all Americans is bad. The Affordable Care Act has brought healthcare to lots of Americans who need it. Romney's idea? Just repeal it, so people lose their health insurance. Great idea, isn't it? Isn't it such a great idea to take healthcare away from a bunch of people who just got it?

I hope he stops the act before the taxes on it take effect. I mean, the act was considered constitutional as a tax. Obama just passed a tax and all the Democrats are like, "woohoo, yeah, woohoo, this will barely even affect our life directly too much but we still love it because Obama told us it's good!"

And also the mandate will probably murder more babies :'(

Abortion is just as much baby murdering as not having babies.

CheeseMunchy wrote:

jvvg wrote:

soupoftomato wrote:

It's very possible you're just too young, unless I've underestimated your age. But that is an actual sexual preference called asexuality.

I'm about 14 years old.

Wow, I always assumed you were older.

I always assumed you were younger.

angelica101 wrote:

http://i50.tinypic.com/a0za8k.jpg

My friend made that...

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Mokat wrote:

Interesting.
My Social Studies teacher always tells us that when we're old enough to vote, we should always vote because then you at least have some say in the outcome.

In my opinion, if you have no understanding of political events, you probably should either take the time to educate yourself or refrain from voting.

Whenever you vote, you are (partially) subjecting the country to your judgement; you're claiming that you're confident the country will do better under the rule of whichever candidate you're voting for.  You are partially responsible for the actions of whichever candidate you vote for and the results of their acts.  Don't subject Americans to your ignorance.

Oh, and it bears mentioning that I'm not saying you shouldn't vote or trying to sound condescending, particularly as I will not be voting in this election.  I appolagize ahead of time if I gave the wrong impression.

Last edited by MoreGamesNow (2012-10-20 17:19:35)