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#876 2012-10-18 22:40:03

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Re: United States 2012 Presidential Election

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jvvg wrote:

He totally answered the question!!!
He said that the low gas prices were a result of the really bad economy under Bush. He then also said that he doesn't want that same economy, which sounds like answering the question to me...

The question was:

Your energy secretary, Steven Chu, has now been on record three times stating it's not policy of his department to help lower gas prices. Do you agree with Secretary Chu that this is not the job of the Energy Department?

Discussing energy in general doesn't mean that he answered the question.  He did not state whether it was the energy department's job to lower gas prices.

To be quite honest, I used to be guilty of the same thing (e.g. addressing questions either very vaguely or simply discussing parallel topics), but I've gotten better, especially over the last two years.  Probably the single most important piece of advice to most writers is "address the prompt".  Obama (and Romney) did not address many questions posed to them, but instead responded with a slew of positives and negatives on the general topic the question touched on.  This is, in my opinion, part of the reason the debate(s) sound(ed) so repetitive.

He was asked about whether it was the energy department's policy to lower gas prices, and he said it's not, because what lowers gas prices is a bad economy.

...And a bad economy like this won't get any better with Obama in office for another 4 years...


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#877 2012-10-18 22:47:05

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Re: United States 2012 Presidential Election

CN12 wrote:

jvvg wrote:

MoreGamesNow wrote:

jvvg wrote:

He totally answered the question!!!
He said that the low gas prices were a result of the really bad economy under Bush. He then also said that he doesn't want that same economy, which sounds like answering the question to me...

The question was:


Discussing energy in general doesn't mean that he answered the question.  He did not state whether it was the energy department's job to lower gas prices.

To be quite honest, I used to be guilty of the same thing (e.g. addressing questions either very vaguely or simply discussing parallel topics), but I've gotten better, especially over the last two years.  Probably the single most important piece of advice to most writers is "address the prompt".  Obama (and Romney) did not address many questions posed to them, but instead responded with a slew of positives and negatives on the general topic the question touched on.  This is, in my opinion, part of the reason the debate(s) sound(ed) so repetitive.

He was asked about whether it was the energy department's policy to lower gas prices, and he said it's not, because what lowers gas prices is a bad economy.

...And a bad economy like this won't get any better with Obama in office for another 4 years...

Really? It's already improved drastically from the downward spiral it was in when he was put in office, and he would do a lot more if the republicans in congress didn't oppose him nearly every step of the way  hmm . I wanna ask you, are you in the top 1%? If you are, you have no morals, if you aren't, then I don't even know what to say...


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#878 2012-10-18 22:47:32

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Re: United States 2012 Presidential Election

CN12 wrote:

jvvg wrote:

MoreGamesNow wrote:

jvvg wrote:

He totally answered the question!!!
He said that the low gas prices were a result of the really bad economy under Bush. He then also said that he doesn't want that same economy, which sounds like answering the question to me...

The question was:


Discussing energy in general doesn't mean that he answered the question.  He did not state whether it was the energy department's job to lower gas prices.

To be quite honest, I used to be guilty of the same thing (e.g. addressing questions either very vaguely or simply discussing parallel topics), but I've gotten better, especially over the last two years.  Probably the single most important piece of advice to most writers is "address the prompt".  Obama (and Romney) did not address many questions posed to them, but instead responded with a slew of positives and negatives on the general topic the question touched on.  This is, in my opinion, part of the reason the debate(s) sound(ed) so repetitive.

He was asked about whether it was the energy department's policy to lower gas prices, and he said it's not, because what lowers gas prices is a bad economy.

...And a bad economy like this won't get any better with Obama in office for another 4 years...

Except for the lowering unemployment?


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#879 2012-10-18 22:58:32

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unemployment has increased since Obama took office
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#880 2012-10-18 23:06:20

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thebriculator wrote:

unemployment has increased since Obama took office
News Site

I know!


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#881 2012-10-18 23:08:30

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thebriculator wrote:

unemployment has increased since Obama took office
News Site

Bureau of Labor Statistics data (the real deal) shows that unemployment is equal to when Obama took office, and on a downward trajectory that would put us under 6% unemployment by 2015.

Edit: that article is talking about long-term unemployment, not general unemployment.

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#882 2012-10-18 23:08:48

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Re: United States 2012 Presidential Election

zubblewu wrote:

CN12 wrote:

jvvg wrote:

He was asked about whether it was the energy department's policy to lower gas prices, and he said it's not, because what lowers gas prices is a bad economy.

...And a bad economy like this won't get any better with Obama in office for another 4 years...

Really? It's already improved drastically from the downward spiral it was in when he was put in office, and he would do a lot more if the republicans in congress didn't oppose him nearly every step of the way  hmm . I wanna ask you, are you in the top 1%? If you are, you have no morals, if you aren't, then I don't even know what to say...

I don't know if I'm in the top 1%. Probably not.


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#883 2012-10-18 23:18:12

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Re: United States 2012 Presidential Election

CN12 wrote:

zubblewu wrote:

CN12 wrote:


...And a bad economy like this won't get any better with Obama in office for another 4 years...

Really? It's already improved drastically from the downward spiral it was in when he was put in office, and he would do a lot more if the republicans in congress didn't oppose him nearly every step of the way  hmm . I wanna ask you, are you in the top 1%? If you are, you have no morals, if you aren't, then I don't even know what to say...

I don't know if I'm in the top 1%. Probably not.

I think you'd know if you were in the top 1%.  tongue


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#884 2012-10-18 23:22:12

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Re: United States 2012 Presidential Election

stevetheipad wrote:

CN12 wrote:

zubblewu wrote:


Really? It's already improved drastically from the downward spiral it was in when he was put in office, and he would do a lot more if the republicans in congress didn't oppose him nearly every step of the way  hmm . I wanna ask you, are you in the top 1%? If you are, you have no morals, if you aren't, then I don't even know what to say...

I don't know if I'm in the top 1%. Probably not.

I think you'd know if you were in the top 1%.  tongue

You mean like really rich?


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#885 2012-10-18 23:25:20

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Re: United States 2012 Presidential Election

CN12 wrote:

stevetheipad wrote:

CN12 wrote:


I don't know if I'm in the top 1%. Probably not.

I think you'd know if you were in the top 1%.  tongue

You mean like really rich?

Top 1 percent makes multiple millions a year. I'm actually somewhat near the top 1 percent  yikes  (in the top 5 is the broadest I know)


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#886 2012-10-19 10:05:35

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Re: United States 2012 Presidential Election

CN12 wrote:

jvvg wrote:

MoreGamesNow wrote:

jvvg wrote:

He totally answered the question!!!
He said that the low gas prices were a result of the really bad economy under Bush. He then also said that he doesn't want that same economy, which sounds like answering the question to me...

The question was:


Discussing energy in general doesn't mean that he answered the question.  He did not state whether it was the energy department's job to lower gas prices.

To be quite honest, I used to be guilty of the same thing (e.g. addressing questions either very vaguely or simply discussing parallel topics), but I've gotten better, especially over the last two years.  Probably the single most important piece of advice to most writers is "address the prompt".  Obama (and Romney) did not address many questions posed to them, but instead responded with a slew of positives and negatives on the general topic the question touched on.  This is, in my opinion, part of the reason the debate(s) sound(ed) so repetitive.

He was asked about whether it was the energy department's policy to lower gas prices, and he said it's not, because what lowers gas prices is a bad economy.

...And a bad economy like this won't get any better with Obama in office for another 4 years...

Well, Romney's tax plan that will either explode the debt or slam the middle class will kill the economy even more.


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#887 2012-10-19 10:30:58

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Re: United States 2012 Presidential Election

zubblewu wrote:

CN12 wrote:

stevetheipad wrote:


I think you'd know if you were in the top 1%.  tongue

You mean like really rich?

Top 1 percent makes multiple millions a year. I'm actually somewhat near the top 1 percent  yikes  (in the top 5 is the broadest I know)

No I'm not in the top 1%. Wow. You're in the top 5%?


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#888 2012-10-19 10:48:56

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Re: United States 2012 Presidential Election

Why I'm against Romney, reason one:

NBC politics wrote:

Obama talked about being attacked after his overseas trip in 2008 for being "a celebrity because I was so popular with our allies overseas. And I have to say I'm impressed with how Governor Romney has avoided that problem."

[source]


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#889 2012-10-19 11:13:23

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...and nobody posts.


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#890 2012-10-19 12:14:51

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CN12, how exactly is mitt better than barack?

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#891 2012-10-19 12:24:16

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Re: United States 2012 Presidential Election

Firedrake969 wrote:

Why I'm against Romney, reason one:

NBC politics wrote:

Obama talked about being attacked after his overseas trip in 2008 for being "a celebrity because I was so popular with our allies overseas. And I have to say I'm impressed with how Governor Romney has avoided that problem."

[source]

Nice.  smile


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#892 2012-10-19 12:25:21

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Re: United States 2012 Presidential Election

jvvg wrote:

Firedrake969 wrote:

Why I'm against Romney, reason one:

NBC politics wrote:

Obama talked about being attacked after his overseas trip in 2008 for being "a celebrity because I was so popular with our allies overseas. And I have to say I'm impressed with how Governor Romney has avoided that problem."

[source]

Nice.  smile

My face when I read it:  lol


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#893 2012-10-19 12:48:16

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Re: United States 2012 Presidential Election

Firedrake969 wrote:

jvvg wrote:

Firedrake969 wrote:

Why I'm against Romney, reason one:
[source]

Nice.  smile

My face when I read it:  lol

Mine when I read it:  neutral
I don't smile much.


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#894 2012-10-19 12:54:01

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"I was actually hoping the president would bring Joe Biden along this evening, because he'll laugh at anything."
I don't even care who said this (it was Romney), that's a huge burn.


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#895 2012-10-19 12:57:12

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transparent wrote:

"I was actually hoping the president would bring Joe Biden along this evening, because he'll laugh at anything."
I don't even care who said this (it was Romney), that's a huge burn.

Biden doesn't laugh at anything, he only laughs at completely made up numbers and claims made with absolutely nothing to back them up.

So, can you point out exactly where the burn is?


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#896 2012-10-19 13:18:32

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Re: United States 2012 Presidential Election

jvvg wrote:

Firedrake969 wrote:

jvvg wrote:


Nice.  smile

My face when I read it:  lol

Mine when I read it:  neutral
I don't smile much.

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#897 2012-10-19 16:50:17

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Really? It's already improved drastically from the downward spiral it was in when he was put in office, and he would do a lot more if the republicans in congress didn't oppose him nearly every step of the way  hmm . I wanna ask you, are you in the top 1%? If you are, you have no morals, if you aren't, then I don't even know what to say...

Warren Buffet and Bill Gates have no morals?  What evidence do you have?  Keep personal attacks to a minimum please.


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#898 2012-10-19 17:00:47

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Re: United States 2012 Presidential Election

MoreGamesNow wrote:

zubblewu wrote:

Really? It's already improved drastically from the downward spiral it was in when he was put in office, and he would do a lot more if the republicans in congress didn't oppose him nearly every step of the way  hmm . I wanna ask you, are you in the top 1%? If you are, you have no morals, if you aren't, then I don't even know what to say...

Warren Buffet and Bill Gates have no morals?  What evidence do you have?  Keep personal attacks to a minimum please.

I'll revise that statement. Those in the top 1% who are greedy with their money and don't think it should be given to people who need it more have no morals.

Warren Buffet actually said he needs to be taxed more. To prove a point, his secretary pays a higher tax rate than him.


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#899 2012-10-19 18:06:51

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Re: United States 2012 Presidential Election

MoreGamesNow wrote:

zubblewu wrote:

Really? It's already improved drastically from the downward spiral it was in when he was put in office, and he would do a lot more if the republicans in congress didn't oppose him nearly every step of the way  hmm . I wanna ask you, are you in the top 1%? If you are, you have no morals, if you aren't, then I don't even know what to say...

Warren Buffet and Bill Gates have no morals?  What evidence do you have?  Keep personal attacks to a minimum please.

That's not what I said is it? I didn't specifically say everyone in the top 1% has no morals, just that the only people who would benefit from Romney is the top 1% at the expense of everyone else. Most people in the top one percent want to vote for money because they're greedy (again, not saying everyone in the top 15 is greedy.)


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#900 2012-10-19 18:11:22

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Re: United States 2012 Presidential Election

zubblewu wrote:

MoreGamesNow wrote:

zubblewu wrote:

Really? It's already improved drastically from the downward spiral it was in when he was put in office, and he would do a lot more if the republicans in congress didn't oppose him nearly every step of the way  hmm . I wanna ask you, are you in the top 1%? If you are, you have no morals, if you aren't, then I don't even know what to say...

Warren Buffet and Bill Gates have no morals?  What evidence do you have?  Keep personal attacks to a minimum please.

That's not what I said is it? I didn't specifically say everyone in the top 1% has no morals, just that the only people who would benefit from Romney is the top 1% at the expense of everyone else. Most people in the top one percent want to vote for money because they're greedy (again, not saying everyone in the top 15 is greedy.)

Most people who are in the top 1% aren't greedy, in fact, most of them are quite generous and donate some of their riches to charity.


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