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#26 2012-10-18 16:23:56

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Re: Flash project player is now the default!

BoltBait wrote:

Lightnin wrote:

...once we transition to Scratch 2.0, the Java player will no longer be available.

Just a reminder to people who host projects on their own web sites, If you use it, be sure to grab a copy of the Java player before it goes away for good.

I host some games on my own site and I just grabbed a copy as the one I'm using is a little old.

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#27 2012-10-18 16:58:00

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Re: Flash project player is now the default!

BoltBait wrote:

Lightnin wrote:

...once we transition to Scratch 2.0, the Java player will no longer be available.

Just a reminder to people who host projects on their own web sites, If you use it, be sure to grab a copy of the Java player before it goes away for good.

I host some games on my own site and I just grabbed a copy as the one I'm using is a little old.

Ah! Thanks for mentioning this.
We should be able to leave the java player files in their static directory even after the transition, so that projects embedded on sites other than Scratch before now will stay up.
But it's one more thing to keep track of in a very long list.   smile


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#28 2012-10-18 17:07:36

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Re: Flash project player is now the default!

dvd4 wrote:

Also, many games don't work in flash.

I think you'll find that's changed a lot recently - we've pushed several new revisions in the past month that've fixed many of the glitches.

If you want projects to be bug free in the flash player, then please help submit bug reports on any glitches you do find. Here's the thread:

http://scratch.mit.edu/forums/viewtopic.php?id=107666


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#29 2012-10-18 17:16:12

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Re: Flash project player is now the default!

OK, Lightnin, you're going to hate me for bringing up this issue so late, but...

When you visit a project page, when you click on the "embed" link, (down on the lower right side of the screen) the code presented to the user is for the Java player.

This needs to be updated to support the Flash player.

And, that's not going to be easy.  I was able to get it working on my own web site and it required LOTS of code.  Not something that could be easily copy-and-paste from that little box onto a web page.


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#30 2012-10-18 17:26:55

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Re: Flash project player is now the default!

BoltBait wrote:

OK, Lightnin, you're going to hate me for bringing up this issue so late, but...

When you visit a project page, when you click on the "embed" link, (down on the lower right side of the screen) the code presented to the user is for the Java player.

This needs to be updated to support the Flash player.

And, that's not going to be easy.  I was able to get it working on my own web site and it required LOTS of code.  Not something that could be easily copy-and-paste from that little box onto a web page.

smile  No, we're aware of that one.
Basically the embed code for 2.0 will be for flash (since, well, that's the only option.)
I think when we looked into it we thought using an iframe seems like the standard approach these days. Hopefully that'll be simple enough, but it's something we haven't sorted out yet.

Actually if you've got code that worked, maybe file a bug / feature request on the website tracker, and include it? That might give us a head start when we start working on it.


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#31 2012-10-18 17:27:59

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Re: Flash project player is now the default!

Heh.  I never did get the "full screen" button to work in IE.  So, I think you guys are the experts here.

EDIT:

Also, I'm not sure you can go full screen from inside of an iframe...  hmm

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#32 2012-10-18 22:31:55

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Re: Flash project player is now the default!

the recent update is awesome! my project (which ran slower before that update) is now fast! And it's the default player, so I can easily share it with my friends.

Great move, Scratch Team!


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#33 2012-10-19 05:55:57

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Re: Flash project player is now the default!

BoltBait wrote:

Also, I'm not sure you can go full screen from inside of an iframe...  hmm

You'd probably have to enlarge the iframe or something, but I'm sure it's possible.
Maybe adding a script along with the iframe in the embed code.


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Have you added support for AZERTY keyboards, which have 0-9 numbers in the top half of the keys? (i.e. SHIFT+& makes 1, SHIFT+é makes 2)...
In the first version of the flash player it was impossible to make projects sense numbers with the key pressed boolean block. I haven't yet tried in this one.

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#34 2012-10-19 10:22:05

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Re: Flash project player is now the default!

The best thing about this news:
Scratch 2.0 is closer to release!  big_smile


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#35 2012-10-19 12:19:07

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Re: Flash project player is now the default!

technoboy10 wrote:

The best thing about this news:
Scratch 2.0 is closer to release!  big_smile

And the worst is the TGBs are going to be deleted sooner

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#36 2012-10-19 12:22:46

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Re: Flash project player is now the default!

dvd4 wrote:

technoboy10 wrote:

The best thing about this news:
Scratch 2.0 is closer to release!  big_smile

And the worst is the TGBs are going to be deleted sooner

Not the TGBs!  yikes


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#37 2012-10-19 12:30:39

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Re: Flash project player is now the default!

RedRocker227 wrote:

dvd4 wrote:

technoboy10 wrote:

The best thing about this news:
Scratch 2.0 is closer to release!  big_smile

And the worst is the TGBs are going to be deleted sooner

Not the TGBs!  yikes

And even worse, all our posts will deleted on the new site, so we will all be new scratchers again


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#38 2012-10-19 12:48:10

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Re: Flash project player is now the default!

I don't think we will all become new scratchers again- I heard something about that somewhere on the forums and I think the answer was that the scratchers and new scratchers are stored in a seperate database so they won't reset- I can't say the same thing about post count though. Shame  sad


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#39 2012-10-19 12:48:36

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Re: Flash project player is now the default!

dvd4 wrote:

RedRocker227 wrote:

dvd4 wrote:


And the worst is the TGBs are going to be deleted sooner

Not the TGBs!  yikes

And even worse, all our posts will deleted on the new site, so we will all be new scratchers again

Our post's probably won't be deleted, but archived. The Scratch team is starting a completely new forums I think.


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#40 2012-10-19 12:53:49

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Re: Flash project player is now the default!

CheeseMunchy wrote:

dvd4 wrote:

RedRocker227 wrote:


Not the TGBs!  yikes

And even worse, all our posts will deleted on the new site, so we will all be new scratchers again

Our post's probably won't be deleted, but archived. The Scratch team is starting a completely new forums I think.

Someone told me that posts will transfer.


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#41 2012-10-19 12:54:04

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Re: Flash project player is now the default!

dvd4 wrote:

RedRocker227 wrote:

dvd4 wrote:


And the worst is the TGBs are going to be deleted sooner

Not the TGBs!  yikes

And even worse, all our posts will deleted on the new site, so we will all be new scratchers again

No we won't

Even if they restart the forums a member of the ST who I can't remember said they won't reset everyone's rank


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#42 2012-10-19 13:07:07

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Re: Flash project player is now the default!

jvvg wrote:

CheeseMunchy wrote:

dvd4 wrote:


And even worse, all our posts will deleted on the new site, so we will all be new scratchers again

Our post's probably won't be deleted, but archived. The Scratch team is starting a completely new forums I think.

Someone told me that posts will transfer.

Who told you that?


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#43 2012-10-19 13:10:07

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Re: Flash project player is now the default!

CheeseMunchy wrote:

jvvg wrote:

CheeseMunchy wrote:


Our post's probably won't be deleted, but archived. The Scratch team is starting a completely new forums I think.

Someone told me that posts will transfer.

Who told you that?

I forget, but I think it was someone who would know.

Also, about ranks: the Scratcher status has nothing to do with forum posts. It involves projects, comments, and other stuff on site, so that shouldn't be a problem.


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#44 2012-10-20 06:13:53

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Re: Flash project player is now the default!

Another step towards 2.0!  big_smile


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#45 2012-10-20 06:39:54

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Re: Flash project player is now the default!

jji7skyline wrote:

Another step towards 2.0! D:

Fixed


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#46 2012-10-20 19:08:43

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Re: Flash project player is now the default!

I think that the default player should be the old flash player, while the new one being accessible through a link like the java player, until the scratch team works out most of the glitches in the new flash player.

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#47 2012-10-20 19:56:47

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Re: Flash project player is now the default!

BoltBait wrote:

dvd4 wrote:

You didn't prove anything, so why should I ?

When you get older and more mature you'll understand that I did, in fact, prove my point with hard data to backup my statement.

Until then, just know that if you continue to post baseless claims without data to backup your position, you're just spamming the boards.

well,I don't consider what I am saying spam.


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#48 2012-10-20 20:43:43

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Re: Flash project player is now the default!

dvd4 wrote:

BoltBait wrote:

dvd4 wrote:

You didn't prove anything, so why should I ?

When you get older and more mature you'll understand that I did, in fact, prove my point with hard data to backup my statement.

Until then, just know that if you continue to post baseless claims without data to backup your position, you're just spamming the boards.

well,I don't consider what I am saying spam.

the rest of us do


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#49 2012-10-21 10:41:18

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Re: Flash project player is now the default!

Lightnin wrote:

once we transition to Scratch 2.0, the Java player will no longer be available

Does this mean that in Scratch 2.0 the MIDI section will be as good as it is in the Java Player? It is a while I hadn't checked MIDI projects, but a few months ago the quality of the "play note" blocks was really poor. Has (or will) that problem been solved?

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#50 2012-10-24 17:05:20

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Re: Flash project player is now the default!

dvd4 wrote:

RedRocker227 wrote:

dvd4 wrote:


And the worst is the TGBs are going to be deleted sooner

Not the TGBs!  yikes

And even worse, all our posts will deleted on the new site, so we will all be new scratchers again

Woah, way to run the rumor mill there!

You won't be a New Scratcher --  your status will carry over, even if forum posts do not. Comments, also, will carry over.  smile


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