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#1 2012-10-17 21:54:22

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imagining the tenth dimension

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#2 2012-10-17 21:59:44

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Re: imagining the tenth dimension

777w
i showed you this like

months ago

your "watch later" list sure is extensive


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#3 2012-10-17 22:19:57

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Re: imagining the tenth dimension

soupoftomato wrote:

777w
i showed you this like

months ago

your "watch later" list sure is extensive

actually i watched this like months ago and remembered it today :P
but yes it is extensive

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#4 2012-10-18 08:00:35

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Re: imagining the tenth dimension

WOW THAT IS EPIC

But there are only 10 dimensions. Awww....

And I always imagined the fourth dimensions and others as SPACE dimensions, not time.
So the fourth dimension countinues the connect vertices pattern and is this: http://i.imgur.com/lSLUV.gif


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#5 2012-10-18 08:47:36

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Re: imagining the tenth dimension

^^Yet I believe that stuff like that can be represented in a 3D plane, so I don't find much of a point in it.  hmm

I saw this video some time ago, quite interesting if you get it  tongue


http://getgnulinux.org/links/en/linuxliberated_4_78x116.png

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#6 2012-10-18 08:55:14

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Re: imagining the tenth dimension

technoguyx wrote:

^^Yet I believe that stuff like that can be represented in a 3D plane, so I don't find much of a point in it.  hmm

I saw this video some time ago, quite interesting if you get it  tongue

I get it.  yikes

WAIT
WHAT IF THERE ARE 2 4TH DIMENSIONS OR SOMETHING

Like, There is that fourth dimension: 3 dimensions and time.
AND four space dimensions.
AND two space dimenions and 2 time dimentions. ETC.


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#7 2012-10-18 09:01:50

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Re: imagining the tenth dimension

wut?


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#8 2012-10-18 09:05:16

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Re: imagining the tenth dimension

Think bout it. They only go up to 3 space dimensions in the video (like height, length, and width). The most common 4D object is considered a tesseract, which has another dimension along with h,l and w. So therefore, there are at least 2 different 4 dimensions.


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#9 2012-10-18 09:18:28

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Re: imagining the tenth dimension

No, if these tesseracts can be represented in a 3D plane, then they must be 3D, not "4D". This is exactly what I pointed out in my first post  tongue


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#10 2012-10-18 09:20:14

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Re: imagining the tenth dimension

They can't be represented perfectly; the common tesseract picture would be very inaccurate as a real tesseract would be made of an infinity cubes.


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#11 2012-10-18 09:41:07

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Re: imagining the tenth dimension

technoguyx wrote:

No, if these tesseracts can be represented in a 3D plane, then they must be 3D, not "4D". This is exactly what I pointed out in my first post  tongue

No, all we're seeing is the shadow of the 4D object. It's the same as if you are looking at a  2D shadow of a 3D cube. The shadow is only 2D, so when you rotate the cube, the shadow of it changes shape. Now just move the dimensions up by 1. Our moving image of a tesseract is just the 3D "shadow" of it. So when we move the 4D object (I'm talking about a digital representation of it, of course, since we don't actually have a real 4D object) the 3D image that we're seeing appears to change shape.

I hope that made sense.

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#12 2012-10-18 10:05:03

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Re: imagining the tenth dimension

calebxy wrote:

technoguyx wrote:

No, if these tesseracts can be represented in a 3D plane, then they must be 3D, not "4D". This is exactly what I pointed out in my first post  tongue

No, all we're seeing is the shadow of the 4D object. It's the same as if you are looking at a  2D shadow of a 3D cube. The shadow is only 2D, so when you rotate the cube, the shadow of it changes shape. Now just move the dimensions up by 1. Our moving image of a tesseract is just the 3D "shadow" of it. So when we move the 4D object (I'm talking about a digital representation of it, of course, since we don't actually have a real 4D object) the 3D image that we're seeing appears to change shape.

I hope that made sense.

Yeah., there are a TON of patterns between dimensions that you can use to imagine a 4d object.


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#13 2012-10-18 10:28:35

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Re: imagining the tenth dimension

This conversation is way too sophisticated for me.


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#14 2012-10-18 10:29:04

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Re: imagining the tenth dimension

witchartix wrote:

This conversation is way too sophisticated for me.

:3


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#15 2012-10-18 10:31:04

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Re: imagining the tenth dimension

However, this is impossible because of the 4th dimension being infinite 3rd dimensional instances, therefore what we see now isn't what we saw an indefinite amount of time ago, thus there being infinite copies of us, not moving in the 4th dimension. It's kinda crazy.

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#16 2012-10-18 10:41:09

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Re: imagining the tenth dimension

Gravitation wrote:

However, this is impossible because of the 4th dimension being infinite 3rd dimensional instances, therefore what we see now isn't what we saw an indefinite amount of time ago, thus there being infinite copies of us, not moving in the 4th dimension. It's kinda crazy.

The fourth dimension is another universe.  yikes


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#17 2012-10-18 10:43:02

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Re: imagining the tenth dimension

mythbusteranimator wrote:

Gravitation wrote:

However, this is impossible because of the 4th dimension being infinite 3rd dimensional instances, therefore what we see now isn't what we saw an indefinite amount of time ago, thus there being infinite copies of us, not moving in the 4th dimension. It's kinda crazy.

The fourth dimension is another universe.  yikes

Infinite other universes with infinite copies of each other.

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#18 2012-10-18 10:57:25

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Re: imagining the tenth dimension

Gravitation wrote:

mythbusteranimator wrote:

Gravitation wrote:

However, this is impossible because of the 4th dimension being infinite 3rd dimensional instances, therefore what we see now isn't what we saw an indefinite amount of time ago, thus there being infinite copies of us, not moving in the 4th dimension. It's kinda crazy.

The fourth dimension is another universe.  yikes

Infinite other universes with infinite copies of each other.

Wait

You know how they said there were the infinite number of possibilities? Well, than they had an infinite number of universes with different possibilities, so that is infinity squared!  yikes


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#19 2012-10-18 10:59:53

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Re: imagining the tenth dimension

mythbusteranimator wrote:

Gravitation wrote:

mythbusteranimator wrote:


The fourth dimension is another universe.  yikes

Infinite other universes with infinite copies of each other.

Wait

You know how they said there were the infinite number of possibilities? Well, than they had an infinite number of universes with different possibilities, so that is infinity squared!  yikes

And in the tenth dimension all of that is a point, which is absolutely nothing!  yikes

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#20 2012-10-18 11:00:20

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Re: imagining the tenth dimension

Gravitation wrote:

mythbusteranimator wrote:

Gravitation wrote:


Infinite other universes with infinite copies of each other.

Wait

You know how they said there were the infinite number of possibilities? Well, than they had an infinite number of universes with different possibilities, so that is infinity squared!  yikes

And in the tenth dimension all of that is a point, which is absolutely nothing!  yikes

infinity squared = 0!


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#21 2012-10-18 11:03:08

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Re: imagining the tenth dimension

mythbusteranimator wrote:

Gravitation wrote:

mythbusteranimator wrote:


Wait

You know how they said there were the infinite number of possibilities? Well, than they had an infinite number of universes with different possibilities, so that is infinity squared!  yikes

And in the tenth dimension all of that is a point, which is absolutely nothing!  yikes

infinity squared = 0!

And so the tenth dimension is impossible as a point in the tenth dimension is infinity^infinity in all lower dimentions!  yikes

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#22 2012-10-18 11:05:21

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Gravitation wrote:

mythbusteranimator wrote:

Gravitation wrote:


And in the tenth dimension all of that is a point, which is absolutely nothing!  yikes

infinity squared = 0!

And so the tenth dimension is impossible as a point in the tenth dimension is infinity^infinity in all lower dimentions!  yikes

yikes

And, what if, that means, that since we take up space, and the 10th dimension does not, WE ARE LIVING IN THE TENTH DIMENSION


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#23 2012-10-18 11:10:28

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Re: imagining the tenth dimension

mythbusteranimator wrote:

Gravitation wrote:

mythbusteranimator wrote:


infinity squared = 0!

And so the tenth dimension is impossible as a point in the tenth dimension is infinity^infinity in all lower dimentions!  yikes

yikes

And, what if, that means, that since we take up space, and the 10th dimension does not, WE ARE LIVING IN THE TENTH DIMENSION

Therefore we, if we use our full brain capacity, can jump to other positions in all dimensions, enabling time travel!!! *faints*

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#24 2012-10-18 11:14:46

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Re: imagining the tenth dimension

Gravitation wrote:

mythbusteranimator wrote:

Gravitation wrote:


And so the tenth dimension is impossible as a point in the tenth dimension is infinity^infinity in all lower dimentions!  yikes

yikes

And, what if, that means, that since we take up space, and the 10th dimension does not, WE ARE LIVING IN THE TENTH DIMENSION

Therefore we, if we use our full brain capacity, can jump to other positions in all dimensions, enabling time travel!!! *faints*

MIND OVER MATTER
Wait
What if every point IS the 10th dimension? So if we were infinitely small, then we could access ANY POINT OF TIME OR UNIVERSE IN THE OMNIVERSE


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#25 2012-10-18 11:16:52

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Re: imagining the tenth dimension

mythbusteranimator wrote:

Gravitation wrote:

mythbusteranimator wrote:


yikes

And, what if, that means, that since we take up space, and the 10th dimension does not, WE ARE LIVING IN THE TENTH DIMENSION

Therefore we, if we use our full brain capacity, can jump to other positions in all dimensions, enabling time travel!!! *faints*

MIND OVER MATTER
Wait
What if every point IS the 10th dimension? So if we were infinitely small, then we could access ANY POINT OF TIME OR UNIVERSE IN THE OMNIVERSE

EXACTLY

And thus, Doctor Who is born.

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