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CheeseMunchy · 2012-10-15 14:45:32

jvvg wrote:
CheeseMunchy wrote:
jvvg wrote:

No, but he was saying that anti-Islamism is an "American value".
Really? Source?
The attack thing is common knowledge, and the anti-Islam thing was extracted from that by me.

Extracted from what exactly?

jvvg · 2012-10-15 14:46:22

CheeseMunchy wrote:
jvvg wrote:
CheeseMunchy wrote:

Really? Source?
The attack thing is common knowledge, and the anti-Islam thing was extracted from that by me.
Extracted from what exactly?

Extracted from the fact that he told Obama not to apologize for American values when he was apologizing for the anti-Islamic video.

CheeseMunchy · 2012-10-15 14:52:24

jvvg wrote:
CheeseMunchy wrote:
jvvg wrote:

The attack thing is common knowledge, and the anti-Islam thing was extracted from that by me.
Extracted from what exactly?
Extracted from the fact that he told Obama not to apologize for American values when he was apologizing for the anti-Islamic video.

And what makes you think that Romney wouldn't have been against apologizing, if a wasn't an anti-Islamic video?

jvvg · 2012-10-15 14:54:19

CheeseMunchy wrote:
jvvg wrote:
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Extracted from what exactly?
Extracted from the fact that he told Obama not to apologize for American values when he was apologizing for the anti-Islamic video.
And what makes you think that Romney wouldn't have been against apologizing, if a wasn't an anti-Islamic video?

He attacked President Obama for apologizing about it...

CheeseMunchy · 2012-10-15 14:59:15

jvvg wrote:
CheeseMunchy wrote:
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Extracted from the fact that he told Obama not to apologize for American values when he was apologizing for the anti-Islamic video.
And what makes you think that Romney wouldn't have been against apologizing, if a wasn't an anti-Islamic video?
He attacked President Obama for apologizing about it...

I wouldn't call that, at all, proof.

jvvg · 2012-10-15 15:06:39

CheeseMunchy wrote:
jvvg wrote:
CheeseMunchy wrote:

And what makes you think that Romney wouldn't have been against apologizing, if a wasn't an anti-Islamic video?
He attacked President Obama for apologizing about it...
I wouldn't call that, at all, proof.

Ok, you want a source?
Read this Washington Post Article. It pretty clearly says that Romney attacked Obama for apologizing for "American values".

CheeseMunchy · 2012-10-15 15:33:09

jvvg wrote:
CheeseMunchy wrote:
jvvg wrote:

He attacked President Obama for apologizing about it...
I wouldn't call that, at all, proof.
Ok, you want a source?
Read this Washington Post Article. It pretty clearly says that Romney attacked Obama for apologizing for "American values".

I don't need a source. Lot of misunderstanding going around these days...
I meant that the fact that Romney "attacked" Obama for apologizing for the anti-Islamic video, is not at all proof that he is anti-Islamic.

OverPowered · 2012-10-15 15:45:18

CheeseMunchy wrote:
I meant that the fact that Romney "attacked" Obama for apologizing for the anti-Islamic video, is not at all proof that he is anti-Islamic.

Romney isn't anti-Islamic, at least on a specific level. I think this is certain, and it shouldn't even have a debate.

But he doesn't support America apologizing for its "moral values", even if those "moral values" are defending a video that is hateful and slanderous commentary against the followers of Islam.

If a person doesn't learn to apologize, then it's quite easy for them to become over-confident and never take into account the feelings of others. Aren't countries the same way? Shouldn't the United States learn a little humility? I mean, it's not as if we've ever totally ignored the international community, not at all... tongue

jvvg · 2012-10-15 16:42:53

CheeseMunchy wrote:
jvvg wrote:
CheeseMunchy wrote:
I wouldn't call that, at all, proof.
Ok, you want a source?
Read this Washington Post Article. It pretty clearly says that Romney attacked Obama for apologizing for "American values".
I don't need a source. Lot of misunderstanding going around these days...
I meant that the fact that Romney "attacked" Obama for apologizing for the anti-Islamic video, is not at all proof that he is anti-Islamic.

Well, it definitely doesn't show that he's pro-Islam...
It also disturbs me that he was pretty much defending an incredibly offensive video.

CheeseMunchy · 2012-10-15 17:05:44

jvvg wrote:
CheeseMunchy wrote:
jvvg wrote:
Ok, you want a source?
Read this Washington Post Article. It pretty clearly says that Romney attacked Obama for apologizing for "American values".
I don't need a source. Lot of misunderstanding going around these days...
I meant that the fact that Romney "attacked" Obama for apologizing for the anti-Islamic video, is not at all proof that he is anti-Islamic.
Well, it definitely doesn't show that he's pro-Islam...

It didn't show for a fact the he is anything islam.

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jvvg · 2012-10-15 17:33:46

CheeseMunchy wrote:
jvvg wrote:
CheeseMunchy wrote:

I don't need a source. Lot of misunderstanding going around these days...
I meant that the fact that Romney "attacked" Obama for apologizing for the anti-Islamic video, is not at all proof that he is anti-Islamic.
Well, it definitely doesn't show that he's pro-Islam...
It didn't show for a fact the he is anything islam.

It does reflect poorly on his opinion towards Islam because he attacked President Obama for apologizing about an anti-Islam video.

Mokat · 2012-10-15 18:06:46

There's another presidential debate tomorrow night! smile

CheeseMunchy · 2012-10-15 18:06:51

jvvg wrote:
CheeseMunchy wrote:
jvvg wrote:

Well, it definitely doesn't show that he's pro-Islam...
It didn't show for a fact the he is anything islam.
It does reflect poorly on his opinion towards Islam because he attacked President Obama for apologizing about an anti-Islam video.

True.

OverPowered · 2012-10-15 18:16:04

OverPowered wrote:
Please, someone, explain how Gov. Romney plans to balance the budget if 480 billion dollars of revenue a year are lost and unneeded defense spending increases?

Just putting this back up there, cause I'm waiting for an answer... smile

stevetheipad · 2012-10-15 18:42:27

Mokat wrote:
There's another presidential debate tomorrow night! :)

Really? Awesome, I'll be watching. :)

16Skittles · 2012-10-15 18:42:48

OverPowered wrote:
OverPowered wrote:
Please, someone, explain how Gov. Romney plans to balance the budget if 480 billion dollars of revenue a year are lost and unneeded defense spending increases?
Just putting this back up there, cause I'm waiting for an answer...

Pro tip: he doesn't plan to balance the budget. wink

CheeseMunchy · 2012-10-15 18:44:15

OverPowered wrote:
OverPowered wrote:
Please, someone, explain how Gov. Romney plans to balance the budget if 480 billion dollars of revenue a year are lost and unneeded defense spending increases?
Just putting this back up there, cause I'm waiting for an answer...

You'll need to ask him that one. tongue

Wes64 · 2012-10-15 18:46:58

CheeseMunchy wrote:
OverPowered wrote:
OverPowered wrote:
Please, someone, explain how Gov. Romney plans to balance the budget if 480 billion dollars of revenue a year are lost and unneeded defense spending increases?
Just putting this back up there, cause I'm waiting for an answer...
You'll need to ask him that one.

whereupon he will either evade the question or disgorge meaningless verbiage

MathWizz · 2012-10-15 19:10:05

I just had to.

stevetheipad · 2012-10-15 19:16:49

MathWizz wrote:
I just had to.

Care to shed some light on why?

jvvg · 2012-10-15 20:11:56

CheeseMunchy wrote:
jvvg wrote:
CheeseMunchy wrote:

It didn't show for a fact the he is anything islam.
It does reflect poorly on his opinion towards Islam because he attacked President Obama for apologizing about an anti-Islam video.
True.

Another thing: when he made the quote about his birth certificate (saying everybody knows where he's from), he meant to joke, but it was his racist nature coming out by saying that because of Obama's race, people naturally assume he isn't American.

sportsdude6 · 2012-10-15 20:20:15

http://www.scratch.mit.edu/ext/youtube/?v=bZxs09eV-Vc
lol

tally7 · 2012-10-15 20:22:47

I'm for Obama

jvvg · 2012-10-15 20:27:29

tally7 wrote:
I'm for Obama

Good job. smile

sportsdude6 wrote:
http://www.scratch.mit.edu/ext/youtube/?v=bZxs09eV-Vc

Seen it before, it's a pretty funny ad.

16Skittles · 2012-10-15 21:36:57

So you say Obama is bad on the defecit? "Barack Obama has doubled the deficit" -- Mitt Romney

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