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#701 2012-10-15 11:58:40

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That's to be thought of on the go
When it comes it will take over
But it's not in the near future

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#702 2012-10-15 12:04:58

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Re: United States 2012 Presidential Election

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What about what Obama thinks is more important?

He thinks lots of issues are important. It's bad to just think about one issue.

In July, Obama was supposed to be doing something about Netanyahu, and instead he chose to appear on The View. Is appearing on The View more important than being president??

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#703 2012-10-15 12:08:13

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Re: United States 2012 Presidential Election

CN12 wrote:

jvvg wrote:

CN12 wrote:

What about what Obama thinks is more important?

He thinks lots of issues are important. It's bad to just think about one issue.

In July, Obama was supposed to be doing something about Netanyahu, and instead he chose to appear on The View. Is appearing on The View more important than being president??

If he has to "be President" all the time, then he won't have any time to do anything else.
If I go by what you'e saying, if he reads a book, you'll make fun of him by saying his book is more important than being President.


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#704 2012-10-15 12:18:46

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Re: United States 2012 Presidential Election

jvvg wrote:

CN12 wrote:

jvvg wrote:


He thinks lots of issues are important. It's bad to just think about one issue.

In July, Obama was supposed to be doing something about Netanyahu, and instead he chose to appear on The View. Is appearing on The View more important than being president??

If he has to "be President" all the time, then he won't have any time to do anything else.
If I go by what you'e saying, if he reads a book, you'll make fun of him by saying his book is more important than being President.

But Ntanyahu is much more important. I think he should focus on his job instead.


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#705 2012-10-15 12:22:47

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Re: United States 2012 Presidential Election

CN12 wrote:

jvvg wrote:

CN12 wrote:


In July, Obama was supposed to be doing something about Netanyahu, and instead he chose to appear on The View. Is appearing on The View more important than being president??

If he has to "be President" all the time, then he won't have any time to do anything else.
If I go by what you'e saying, if he reads a book, you'll make fun of him by saying his book is more important than being President.

But Ntanyahu is much more important. I think he should focus on his job instead.

It's possible there was a conflict on Netanyahu's end, or it's possible the content they planned to discuss became a moot point.

And again, if he were reading a book, it seems like you'd accuse him of not doing his job and reading a book instead.


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#706 2012-10-15 12:32:23

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Re: United States 2012 Presidential Election

CN12 wrote:

jvvg wrote:

CN12 wrote:


In July, Obama was supposed to be doing something about Netanyahu, and instead he chose to appear on The View. Is appearing on The View more important than being president??

If he has to "be President" all the time, then he won't have any time to do anything else.
If I go by what you'e saying, if he reads a book, you'll make fun of him by saying his book is more important than being President.

But Ntanyahu is much more important. I think he should focus on his job instead.

I agree with jvvg. Finding things he did wrong you are, which is not a very good way to go.


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#707 2012-10-15 12:45:13

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Re: United States 2012 Presidential Election

stevetheipad wrote:

CN12 wrote:

jvvg wrote:


If he has to "be President" all the time, then he won't have any time to do anything else.
If I go by what you'e saying, if he reads a book, you'll make fun of him by saying his book is more important than being President.

But Ntanyahu is much more important. I think he should focus on his job instead.

I agree with jvvg. Finding things he did wrong you are, which is not a very good way to go.

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#708 2012-10-15 12:47:01

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Re: United States 2012 Presidential Election

stevetheipad wrote:

CN12 wrote:

jvvg wrote:


If he has to "be President" all the time, then he won't have any time to do anything else.
If I go by what you'e saying, if he reads a book, you'll make fun of him by saying his book is more important than being President.

But Ntanyahu is much more important. I think he should focus on his job instead.

I agree with jvvg. Finding things he did wrong you are, which is not a very good way to go.

If we want to find things people have done wrong, let's get started with Mitt Romney:
-He destroyed a bunch of companies at Bain Capital
-He got half of the Republican convention to be based on something Obama didn't actually say (the whole "You didn't build that" thing)
-He says that government agencies are very reliable when they say bad things about Obama, but unreliable when they say good things (just look at unemployment numbers)
and so on and so forth.


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#709 2012-10-15 12:48:36

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Re: United States 2012 Presidential Election

Looking over Obama's plan on his website right now, he seems extremely desperate.


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#710 2012-10-15 12:52:09

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Re: United States 2012 Presidential Election

CheeseMunchy wrote:

Looking over Obama's plan on his website right now, he seems extremely desperate.

So giving the poor a chance to succeed is desperate?
Providing healthcare to more Americans is desperate?
Removing tax breaks for big oil companies in order to help reduce the debt is desperate?


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#711 2012-10-15 13:04:12

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Re: United States 2012 Presidential Election

jvvg wrote:

CheeseMunchy wrote:

Looking over Obama's plan on his website right now, he seems extremely desperate.

So giving the poor a chance to succeed is desperate?
Providing healthcare to more Americans is desperate?
Removing tax breaks for big oil companies in order to help reduce the debt is desperate?

I mean I had to through 2 donate pages to get to his homepage, and donate buttons everywhere. And spouts out about Romney's "Bad Record" everywhere he can.


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#712 2012-10-15 13:08:31

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Re: United States 2012 Presidential Election

CheeseMunchy wrote:

jvvg wrote:

CheeseMunchy wrote:

Looking over Obama's plan on his website right now, he seems extremely desperate.

So giving the poor a chance to succeed is desperate?
Providing healthcare to more Americans is desperate?
Removing tax breaks for big oil companies in order to help reduce the debt is desperate?

I mean I had to through 2 donate pages to get to his homepage, and donate buttons everywhere. And spouts out about Romney's "Bad Record" everywhere he can.

Are you sure you were visiting the right one? When I visit the site, it takes me straight to the home page.
I also only see about 2 or 3 donate buttons on the whole page.

When talking about Mitt Romney's bad record, it's because he has one. I also wouldn't be one to talk there, because Romney is doing just the same. He made fun of Obama saying that people didn't build their businesses, even when he was referring to resources such as roads. He also said Obama had a bad record even when unemployment reached a new low point. My favorite one is when Romney attacked Obama for "apologizing for American values" after the attack on the embassy, when he was apologizing about the fact that any American would be such a jerk to make that video (and he pretty much said that being anti-Islam is an American value).

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#713 2012-10-15 13:21:01

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I don't think there will be a collapse of Capitalism like there was for other systems in the world, but I think it will slowly be warped into socialism like what has happened in many European countries like England and France. The main barrier to socialism is that movements like the USSR have falsely mislabeled themselves as Socialism even when they are truly communist. FYI you can still start and run a business in a socialist country.


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#714 2012-10-15 13:31:10

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Re: United States 2012 Presidential Election

16Skittles wrote:

I don't think there will be a collapse of Capitalism like there was for other systems in the world, but I think it will slowly be warped into socialism like what has happened in many European countries like England and France. The main barrier to socialism is that movements like the USSR have falsely mislabeled themselves as Socialism even when they are truly communist. FYI you can still start and run a business in a socialist country.

Does that mean you're for socialism?


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#715 2012-10-15 13:39:37

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Re: United States 2012 Presidential Election

jvvg wrote:

CheeseMunchy wrote:

jvvg wrote:


So giving the poor a chance to succeed is desperate?
Providing healthcare to more Americans is desperate?
Removing tax breaks for big oil companies in order to help reduce the debt is desperate?

I mean I had to through 2 donate pages to get to his homepage, and donate buttons everywhere. And spouts out about Romney's "Bad Record" everywhere he can.

(and he pretty much said that being anti-Islam is an American value).

Who did?


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#716 2012-10-15 13:54:26

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Re: United States 2012 Presidential Election

16Skittles wrote:

I don't think there will be a collapse of Capitalism like there was for other systems in the world, but I think it will slowly be warped into socialism like what has happened in many European countries like England and France. The main barrier to socialism is that movements like the USSR have falsely mislabeled themselves as Socialism even when they are truly communist. FYI you can still start and run a business in a socialist country.

The USSR isn't communist...


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#717 2012-10-15 14:01:58

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Re: United States 2012 Presidential Election

jukyter wrote:

16Skittles wrote:

I don't think there will be a collapse of Capitalism like there was for other systems in the world, but I think it will slowly be warped into socialism like what has happened in many European countries like England and France. The main barrier to socialism is that movements like the USSR have falsely mislabeled themselves as Socialism even when they are truly communist. FYI you can still start and run a business in a socialist country.

The USSR isn't communist...

It doesn't exist anymore... Also it was lead by the communist party.


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#718 2012-10-15 14:09:40

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Re: United States 2012 Presidential Election

CheeseMunchy wrote:

jvvg wrote:

CheeseMunchy wrote:


I mean I had to through 2 donate pages to get to his homepage, and donate buttons everywhere. And spouts out about Romney's "Bad Record" everywhere he can.

(and he pretty much said that being anti-Islam is an American value).

Who did?

Romney attacked President Obama for "apologizing for American values" when he apologized about the video that sparked the riots.
President Obama was apologizing for the fact that some Americans are anti-Islam (and just plain idiots), and Romney attacked him for that, which pretty much means he's anti-Islam.


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#719 2012-10-15 14:14:18

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Re: United States 2012 Presidential Election

jvvg wrote:

CheeseMunchy wrote:

jvvg wrote:


(and he pretty much said that being anti-Islam is an American value).

Who did?

Romney attacked President Obama for "apologizing for American values" when he apologized about the video that sparked the riots.
President Obama was apologizing for the fact that some Americans are anti-Islam (and just plain idiots), and Romney attacked him for that, which pretty much means he's anti-Islam.

Wasn't that at the debate?


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#720 2012-10-15 14:15:48

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Re: United States 2012 Presidential Election

CheeseMunchy wrote:

jvvg wrote:

CheeseMunchy wrote:


Who did?

Romney attacked President Obama for "apologizing for American values" when he apologized about the video that sparked the riots.
President Obama was apologizing for the fact that some Americans are anti-Islam (and just plain idiots), and Romney attacked him for that, which pretty much means he's anti-Islam.

Wasn't that at the debate?

No, that was before. That was right after the incident happened.


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#721 2012-10-15 14:23:27

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Re: United States 2012 Presidential Election

jvvg wrote:

CheeseMunchy wrote:

jvvg wrote:


Romney attacked President Obama for "apologizing for American values" when he apologized about the video that sparked the riots.
President Obama was apologizing for the fact that some Americans are anti-Islam (and just plain idiots), and Romney attacked him for that, which pretty much means he's anti-Islam.

Wasn't that at the debate?

No, that was before. That was right after the incident happened.

Ah.
But I wouldn't go as far as to say he's anti-Islam.


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#722 2012-10-15 14:25:43

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Re: United States 2012 Presidential Election

CheeseMunchy wrote:

jvvg wrote:

CheeseMunchy wrote:


Wasn't that at the debate?

No, that was before. That was right after the incident happened.

Ah.
But I wouldn't go as far as to say he's anti-Islam.

No, but he was saying that anti-Islamism is an "American value".


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#723 2012-10-15 14:27:36

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Re: United States 2012 Presidential Election

16Skittles wrote:

jukyter wrote:

16Skittles wrote:

I don't think there will be a collapse of Capitalism like there was for other systems in the world, but I think it will slowly be warped into socialism like what has happened in many European countries like England and France. The main barrier to socialism is that movements like the USSR have falsely mislabeled themselves as Socialism even when they are truly communist. FYI you can still start and run a business in a socialist country.

The USSR isn't communist...

It doesn't exist anymore... Also it was lead by the communist party.

I know it doesn't exist
But by the end of its time and the majority of it, it was some sort of mixture between fascism, Nazism and communism

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#724 2012-10-15 14:31:37

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Re: United States 2012 Presidential Election

jvvg wrote:

CheeseMunchy wrote:

jvvg wrote:


No, that was before. That was right after the incident happened.

Ah.
But I wouldn't go as far as to say he's anti-Islam.

No, but he was saying that anti-Islamism is an "American value".

Really? Source?


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#725 2012-10-15 14:36:42

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Re: United States 2012 Presidential Election

CheeseMunchy wrote:

jvvg wrote:

CheeseMunchy wrote:


Ah.
But I wouldn't go as far as to say he's anti-Islam.

No, but he was saying that anti-Islamism is an "American value".

Really? Source?

The attack thing is common knowledge, and the anti-Islam thing was extracted from that by me.


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