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#676 2012-10-15 11:13:01

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Re: United States 2012 Presidential Election

CN12 wrote:

jvvg wrote:

CN12 wrote:


Not true.

He specifically said it's his job not to worry about the 47% of America who need to help him. (Source: the 47% recording, search it anywhere to find it)
I'm pretty sure that he means cutting benefits to the poor if he's "not worrying about them".
So yeah, it is true.

Dude. Steve was asking me, not you.

Well, I still wanted to explain to him why Romney is such a "good" choice for America.


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#677 2012-10-15 11:13:42

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Re: United States 2012 Presidential Election

CN12 wrote:

jvvg wrote:

CN12 wrote:


Not true.

He specifically said it's his job not to worry about the 47% of America who need to help him. (Source: the 47% recording, search it anywhere to find it)
I'm pretty sure that he means cutting benefits to the poor if he's "not worrying about them".
So yeah, it is true.

Dude. Steve was asking me, not you.

Like I said in a previous post, I wanted Obama to be elected president in 08. Now that I look back on what he's done in almost 4 years, (which is basically nothing) I want someone that I feel will meet my expectations better.

Thank you. I understand (but strongly disagree).

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#678 2012-10-15 11:14:06

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Re: United States 2012 Presidential Election

jvvg wrote:

CN12 wrote:

jvvg wrote:


He specifically said it's his job not to worry about the 47% of America who need to help him. (Source: the 47% recording, search it anywhere to find it)
I'm pretty sure that he means cutting benefits to the poor if he's "not worrying about them".
So yeah, it is true.

Dude. Steve was asking me, not you.

Well, I still wanted to explain to him why Romney is such a "good" choice for America.

You could have told him directly, instead of interupting his question to me.


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#679 2012-10-15 11:15:02

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Re: United States 2012 Presidential Election

CN12 wrote:

jvvg wrote:

CN12 wrote:


Not true.

He specifically said it's his job not to worry about the 47% of America who need to help him. (Source: the 47% recording, search it anywhere to find it)
I'm pretty sure that he means cutting benefits to the poor if he's "not worrying about them".
So yeah, it is true.

Dude. Steve was asking me, not you.

Like I said in a previous post, I wanted Obama to be elected president in 08. Now that I look back on what he's done in almost 4 years, (which is basically nothing) I want someone that I feel will meet my expectations better.

...so

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#680 2012-10-15 11:15:20

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Re: United States 2012 Presidential Election

stevetheipad wrote:

CN12 wrote:

jvvg wrote:


He specifically said it's his job not to worry about the 47% of America who need to help him. (Source: the 47% recording, search it anywhere to find it)
I'm pretty sure that he means cutting benefits to the poor if he's "not worrying about them".
So yeah, it is true.

Dude. Steve was asking me, not you.

Like I said in a previous post, I wanted Obama to be elected president in 08. Now that I look back on what he's done in almost 4 years, (which is basically nothing) I want someone that I feel will meet my expectations better.

Thank you. I understand (but strongly disagree).

Is gay marriage worth nothing to you? If you were gay should we just leave you and not embrace equality?

I'm guessing you're leaning towards Obama, right?

I do support gay marriage.


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#681 2012-10-15 11:16:09

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Re: United States 2012 Presidential Election

CN12 wrote:

jvvg wrote:

CN12 wrote:


Dude. Steve was asking me, not you.

Well, I still wanted to explain to him why Romney is such a "good" choice for America.

You could have told him directly, instead of interupting his question to me.

Yes, I could have.

However, I thought it would look better in that way.  tongue


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#682 2012-10-15 11:16:37

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Re: United States 2012 Presidential Election

yousmiledatme wrote:

CN12 wrote:

jvvg wrote:

He specifically said it's his job not to worry about the 47% of America who need to help him. (Source: the 47% recording, search it anywhere to find it)
I'm pretty sure that he means cutting benefits to the poor if he's "not worrying about them".
So yeah, it is true.

Dude. Steve was asking me, not you.

Like I said in a previous post, I wanted Obama to be elected president in 08. Now that I look back on what he's done in almost 4 years, (which is basically nothing) I want someone that I feel will meet my expectations better.

...so

How do you think Obama's done so far?


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#683 2012-10-15 11:16:51

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Re: United States 2012 Presidential Election

yousmiledatme wrote:

get rid of the national debt...

I highly doubt that. XD


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#684 2012-10-15 11:17:40

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Re: United States 2012 Presidential Election

jvvg wrote:

CN12 wrote:

jvvg wrote:


Well, I still wanted to explain to him why Romney is such a "good" choice for America.

You could have told him directly, instead of interupting his question to me.

Yes, I could have.

However, I thought it would look better in that way.  tongue

I found it kind of rude though. But I am over it now, so let's stop discussing it.


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#685 2012-10-15 11:17:44

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Re: United States 2012 Presidential Election

CN12 wrote:

stevetheipad wrote:

CN12 wrote:

Dude. Steve was asking me, not you.

Like I said in a previous post, I wanted Obama to be elected president in 08. Now that I look back on what he's done in almost 4 years, (which is basically nothing) I want someone that I feel will meet my expectations better.

Thank you. I understand (but strongly disagree).

Is gay marriage worth nothing to you? If you were gay should we just leave you and not embrace equality?

I'm guessing you're leaning towards Obama, right?

I do support gay marriage.

If you support gay marriage, why are you voting Romney? He's pretty clearly against it.

CN12 wrote:

How do you think Obama's done so far?

Pretty well. He's made healthcare available to a lot more people, decreased unemployment, and saved a bunch of businesses.


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#686 2012-10-15 11:19:21

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Re: United States 2012 Presidential Election

jvvg wrote:

CN12 wrote:

stevetheipad wrote:


Thank you. I understand (but strongly disagree).

Is gay marriage worth nothing to you? If you were gay should we just leave you and not embrace equality?

I'm guessing you're leaning towards Obama, right?

I do support gay marriage.

If you support gay marriage, why are you voting Romney? He's pretty clearly against it.

CN12 wrote:

How do you think Obama's done so far?

Pretty well. He's made healthcare available to a lot more people, decreased unemployment, and saved a bunch of businesses.

To me, Romney is a better choice.

I was asking yousmiledatme, not you.


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#687 2012-10-15 11:21:13

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Re: United States 2012 Presidential Election

CN12 wrote:

jvvg wrote:

CN12 wrote:


I'm guessing you're leaning towards Obama, right?

I do support gay marriage.

If you support gay marriage, why are you voting Romney? He's pretty clearly against it.

CN12 wrote:

How do you think Obama's done so far?

Pretty well. He's made healthcare available to a lot more people, decreased unemployment, and saved a bunch of businesses.

To me, Romney is a better choice.

I was asking yousmiledatme, not you.

Unless you specifically say it's directed at a user, I will assume it's there for me to answer.

Also, after reading everything I posted, why do you want to cut taxes (especially for the rich), cut stuff like food stamps for people who need them, and increase the size of the military?


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#688 2012-10-15 11:21:21

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Re: United States 2012 Presidential Election

jvvg wrote:

CN12 wrote:

How do you think Obama's done so far?

Pretty well. He's made healthcare available to a lot more people, decreased unemployment, and saved a bunch of businesses.

Considering people's (who have a great deal of power) attitudes towards his laws and ideas; he's done a great job, getting anything passed being a smart black president takes some guts and a ton of work.


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#689 2012-10-15 11:31:31

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Re: United States 2012 Presidential Election

jvvg wrote:

CN12 wrote:

jvvg wrote:

CN12 wrote:

I'm guessing you're leaning towards Obama, right?

I do support gay marriage.

If you support gay marriage, why are you voting Romney? He's pretty clearly against it.


Pretty well. He's made healthcare available to a lot more people, decreased unemployment, and saved a bunch of businesses.

To me, Romney is a better choice.

I was asking yousmiledatme, not you.

Unless you specifically say it's directed at a user, I will assume it's there for me to answer.

Also, after reading everything I posted, why do you want to cut taxes (especially for the rich), cut stuff like food stamps for people who need them, and increase the size of the military?

Okay I will do so in the future if I don't want you to reply for them.

If we cut taxes for the rich, they will create more jobs, and there are too many people on food stamps who don't really need them, and increasing the size of the military will create more jobs.

Romney is a better choice.


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#690 2012-10-15 11:34:54

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Re: United States 2012 Presidential Election

CN12 wrote:

jvvg wrote:

CN12 wrote:


To me, Romney is a better choice.

I was asking yousmiledatme, not you.

Unless you specifically say it's directed at a user, I will assume it's there for me to answer.

Also, after reading everything I posted, why do you want to cut taxes (especially for the rich), cut stuff like food stamps for people who need them, and increase the size of the military?

Okay I will do so in the future if I don't want you to reply for them.

If we cut taxes for the rich, they will create more jobs, and there are too many people on food stamps who don't really need them, and increasing the size of the military will create more jobs.

Romney is a better choice.

He wants to cut taxes on the rich, and cut programs for the poor. The rich already have tons of money that they could use to "make jobs", so cutting their taxes really won't help, as they are just going to keep it for themselves, so the rich become even richer and the poor become even poorer. That is exactly what Karl Marx predicted.


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#691 2012-10-15 11:39:26

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Re: United States 2012 Presidential Election

CN12 wrote:

yousmiledatme wrote:

CN12 wrote:


Dude. Steve was asking me, not you.

Like I said in a previous post, I wanted Obama to be elected president in 08. Now that I look back on what he's done in almost 4 years, (which is basically nothing) I want someone that I feel will meet my expectations better.

...so

How do you think Obama's done so far?

Pretty well. He's been the subject of so much bigotry for being black that wouldn't even have been thought of had he been white
That's the personal side of things.
On a public side, he's been trying to get a few radical policies through but Congress haven't let him. IIRC he was against SOPA, and it was mostly republicans pushing it through. He's trying to make a NHS equivalent over there which is amazing imo
So yeah really well for four years

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#692 2012-10-15 11:41:11

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Re: United States 2012 Presidential Election

jvvg wrote:

CN12 wrote:

jvvg wrote:


Unless you specifically say it's directed at a user, I will assume it's there for me to answer.

Also, after reading everything I posted, why do you want to cut taxes (especially for the rich), cut stuff like food stamps for people who need them, and increase the size of the military?

Okay I will do so in the future if I don't want you to reply for them.

If we cut taxes for the rich, they will create more jobs, and there are too many people on food stamps who don't really need them, and increasing the size of the military will create more jobs.

Romney is a better choice.

He wants to cut taxes on the rich, and cut programs for the poor. The rich already have tons of money that they could use to "make jobs", so cutting their taxes really won't help, as they are just going to keep it for themselves, so the rich become even richer and the poor become even poorer. That is exactly what Karl Marx predicted.

Well what Karl Marx predicted is probably not all correct.


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#693 2012-10-15 11:42:20

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Re: United States 2012 Presidential Election

CN12 wrote:

jvvg wrote:

CN12 wrote:


Okay I will do so in the future if I don't want you to reply for them.

If we cut taxes for the rich, they will create more jobs, and there are too many people on food stamps who don't really need them, and increasing the size of the military will create more jobs.

Romney is a better choice.

He wants to cut taxes on the rich, and cut programs for the poor. The rich already have tons of money that they could use to "make jobs", so cutting their taxes really won't help, as they are just going to keep it for themselves, so the rich become even richer and the poor become even poorer. That is exactly what Karl Marx predicted.

Well what Karl Marx predicted is probably not all correct.

The prediction I was referencing there was actually correct. He predicted that the rich would become very rich and very few, while the poor would become very poor and very many.


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#694 2012-10-15 11:44:01

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Re: United States 2012 Presidential Election

And there will be a revolution and there capitalism will fall... and a new system rise. That is the way of things, everywhere

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#695 2012-10-15 11:45:30

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Re: United States 2012 Presidential Election

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And there will be a revolution and there capitalism will fall... and a new system rise. That is the way of things, everywhere

That part might not happen, but the part about separation definitely will.

However, there were some things that could be considered attempts at revolutions, such as "Occupy Wall Street".

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#696 2012-10-15 11:46:29

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Re: United States 2012 Presidential Election

jvvg wrote:

CN12 wrote:

jvvg wrote:


He wants to cut taxes on the rich, and cut programs for the poor. The rich already have tons of money that they could use to "make jobs", so cutting their taxes really won't help, as they are just going to keep it for themselves, so the rich become even richer and the poor become even poorer. That is exactly what Karl Marx predicted.

Well what Karl Marx predicted is probably not all correct.

The prediction I was referencing there was actually correct. He predicted that the rich would become very rich and very few, while the poor would become very poor and very many.

No comment.


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#697 2012-10-15 11:48:12

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Re: United States 2012 Presidential Election

What about what Obama thinks is more important?


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#698 2012-10-15 11:51:01

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Re: United States 2012 Presidential Election

CN12 wrote:

What about what Obama thinks is more important?

He thinks lots of issues are important. It's bad to just think about one issue.


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#699 2012-10-15 11:52:07

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Re: United States 2012 Presidential Election

jvvg wrote:

yousmiledatme wrote:

And there will be a revolution and there capitalism will fall... and a new system rise. That is the way of things, everywhere

That part might not happen, but the part about separation definitely will.

However, there were some things that could be considered attempts at revolutions, such as "Occupy Wall Street".

History tends to repeat itself in over reaching themes
Feudalism has fallen
Trading has fallen
Capitalism will fall

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#700 2012-10-15 11:53:05

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Re: United States 2012 Presidential Election

yousmiledatme wrote:

jvvg wrote:

yousmiledatme wrote:

And there will be a revolution and there capitalism will fall... and a new system rise. That is the way of things, everywhere

That part might not happen, but the part about separation definitely will.

However, there were some things that could be considered attempts at revolutions, such as "Occupy Wall Street".

History tends to repeat itself in over reaching themes
Feudalism has fallen
Trading has fallen
Capitalism will fall

Probably eventually. However, what will replace it?


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