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#1 2012-10-11 20:53:42

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The Science Fiction Thread

The title says everything. Discuss all sorts of SCIENCE FICTION here!


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#2 2012-10-11 21:13:16

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The Hunger Games is the best.

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#3 2012-10-11 21:14:36

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I wanna start getting into it. I read Enders Game a while ago (Orson Scott Card lives about 2 hours from me) and it was awesome.


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#4 2012-10-11 21:30:20

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ImagineIt wrote:

The Hunger Games is the best.

I disagree.
There are waaaay too many sentence fragments. It's like she needed to create a false sense of suspense so she fragmented. Everything.  tongue
At one point it said something along the lines of "I checked the contents of the bag. Apples, bananas, pears." when it's JUST AS SUSPENSEFUL to say "The bag had apples, bananas, and pears."

Also, the plot was hyper-predictable. I would have been MORE surprised if Peeta didn't live, even though the rules of the game technically dictate I should have expected him to.

And Peeta has like zero redeeming qualities. HE GAVE ME THE LOAF OF BREAD I AM INDEBTED TO BE HIS LOVER is basically the only justification for the relationship. Otherwise, the guy sits there on his butt injured as a liability while Katniss has to hunt and fight for them both. It would have been easier for her to let him die, but it's "in the interest of love" or something. In the interest of an entirely unrealistic love, to be specific. Katniss provides everything while Peeta does nothing. Even though they were obviously attracted by personality, Katniss would likely get fed up at some point. (And did Peeta have personality beyond "loverboy" and Katniss beyond "bravery/loyalty"?)

@Anime: Ender's Game is much less Science Fiction than a lot of science fiction. It more uses science fiction as an excuse to tell the story, instead of a story heavily reliant on it.

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#5 2012-10-11 21:42:55

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2001: A Space Odyssey.

OPEN THE POD BAY DOORS, HAL.

Also, the rest of the books (2001, 2010 (hey that's quite recent!), 2061 (can't wait for halley's comet), 3001).

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#6 2012-10-11 21:45:03

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Molybdenum wrote:

2001: A Space Odyssey.

OPEN THE POD BAY DOORS HAL.

i have come to the conclusion that a number was divided by zero in that movie
a number divided by zero would end up with an answer that increases the value of zero
an answer so high its
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#7 2012-10-11 21:54:35

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777w wrote:

Molybdenum wrote:

2001: A Space Odyssey.

OPEN THE POD BAY DOORS HAL.

i have come to the conclusion that a number was divided by zero in that movie
a number divided by zero would end up with an answer that increases the value of zero
an answer so high its
beyond the infinite

The alien race that created the monolith divided by zero to create the stargate, which is how it works.


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#8 2012-10-11 22:18:04

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ImagineIt wrote:

The Hunger Games is the best.

No. Just...no.

Seriously. The Hunger Games. There are SO MANY better science fiction books out there--you should really broaden your tastes. Have you read Ender's Game? Or any Orson Scott Card book, for that matter. Pretty much ANYTHING but The Hunger Games.

Really, there's a lot of reasons that it's not the best. It's not a bad book, but it's still overrated. Like soupoftomato said, there are too many sentence fragments. It's horribly written. Plus, the plot was pretty stupid too. Okay, this Capitol holds a killing game thingy. All right, now what? This girl falls in love with this boy. Please, no! It could have been a great book, but it had a very dumb romantic subplot. Without it, it had countless potential.

soupoftomato wrote:

@Anime: Ender's Game is much less Science Fiction than a lot of science fiction. It more uses science fiction as an excuse to tell the story, instead of a story heavily reliant on it.

Yes, I agree with this. It does not focus too much on technological advancements, or what kind of things they have in this future setting. For example, all there really is are "desks", which are implied to be tablet-like devices, light-speed travel, starfighters and starships, space stations, gravity controlled environments, and aliens. That may seem like a whole lot, but it isn't.

The story itself is supposed to convey a sort of message and idea about warfare, pretty much. That's the theme.

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#9 2012-10-12 09:00:28

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I liked all the Maximum Ride novels except for the last one.


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#10 2012-10-12 09:18:53

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The best in scence fiction: Star Wars, Hitchhikers' Guide (my personal favorite), and Childhood's End.  wink

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#11 2012-10-12 09:24:09

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Hmmm...

star Wars (original)
Steven King
James Patterson


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#12 2012-10-12 10:08:25

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mythbusteranimator wrote:

Hmmm...

star Wars (original)
Steven King
James Patterson

It's unpopular opinion but I didn't think Revenge of the Sith was that bad.


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#13 2012-10-12 10:12:32

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soupoftomato wrote:

mythbusteranimator wrote:

Hmmm...

star Wars (original)
Steven King
James Patterson

It's unpopular opinion but I didn't think Revenge of the Sith was that bad.

I just didn't like it. Too dark and violent.  hmm


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#14 2012-10-12 10:21:38

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Anyone read any Heinlein?  big_smile


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#15 2012-10-12 10:22:54

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Nope.  hmm


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#16 2012-10-12 10:25:51

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He is a great author who writes lots of sci-fi, my first book by him is "Have Space Suit-Will Travel"


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#17 2012-10-12 11:55:44

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Re: The Science Fiction Thread

mythbusteranimator wrote:

soupoftomato wrote:

mythbusteranimator wrote:

Hmmm...

star Wars (original)
Steven King
James Patterson

It's unpopular opinion but I didn't think Revenge of the Sith was that bad.

I just didn't like it. Too dark and violent.  hmm

I thought it fit what the movie was trying to accomplish.
The first prequel was too childish and silly, especially with Jar Jar.
Then the second one should have been called "Kissing On A Hill and A Brief Fight In An Arena"
The third actually had relevance to the plot of the originals, and the whole thing felt really massive and important in the way it was made. It's not as good as the originals, but it didn't suck.


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#18 2012-10-12 12:00:29

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The Veldt was the only Ray Bradbury book I've read, but it's enchanting and chilling.

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#19 2012-10-12 12:20:37

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wasabi56 wrote:

Anyone read any Heinlein?  big_smile

Stranger in a Strange Land? Ew!


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#20 2012-10-12 14:56:06

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NeilWest wrote:

The Veldt was the only Ray Bradbury book I've read, but it's enchanting and chilling.

All Summer in a Day is another really good short story by him.

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#21 2012-10-12 15:26:29

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soupoftomato wrote:

ImagineIt wrote:

The Hunger Games is the best.

I disagree.
There are waaaay too many sentence fragments. It's like she needed to create a false sense of suspense so she fragmented. Everything.  tongue
At one point it said something along the lines of "I checked the contents of the bag. Apples, bananas, pears." when it's JUST AS SUSPENSEFUL to say "The bag had apples, bananas, and pears." I did hate that.

Also, the plot was hyper-predictable. I would have been MORE surprised if Peeta didn't live, even though the rules of the game technically dictate I should have expected him to. I liked that.

And Peeta has like zero redeeming qualities. HE GAVE ME THE LOAF OF BREAD I AM INDEBTED TO BE HIS LOVER is basically the only justification for the relationship. No, that said that she saw him as a nice boy, not her soulmate.Otherwise, the guy sits there on his butt injured as a liability while Katniss has to hunt and fight for them both. It would have been easier for her to let him die, but it's "in the interest of love" or something. She would have let him die if the rules didn't say that she could let him live.In the interest of an entirely unrealistic love, to be specific. Katniss provides everything while Peeta does nothing. Even though they were obviously attracted by personality, Katniss would likely get fed up at some point. (And did Peeta have personality beyond "loverboy" and Katniss beyond "bravery/loyalty"?)

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#22 2012-10-12 15:29:53

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ImagineIt wrote:

soupoftomato wrote:

ImagineIt wrote:

The Hunger Games is the best.

I disagree.
There are waaaay too many sentence fragments. It's like she needed to create a false sense of suspense so she fragmented. Everything.  tongue
At one point it said something along the lines of "I checked the contents of the bag. Apples, bananas, pears." when it's JUST AS SUSPENSEFUL to say "The bag had apples, bananas, and pears." I did hate that.

Also, the plot was hyper-predictable. I would have been MORE surprised if Peeta didn't live, even though the rules of the game technically dictate I should have expected him to. I liked that.

And Peeta has like zero redeeming qualities. HE GAVE ME THE LOAF OF BREAD I AM INDEBTED TO BE HIS LOVER is basically the only justification for the relationship. No, that said that she saw him as a nice boy, not her soulmate.Otherwise, the guy sits there on his butt injured as a liability while Katniss has to hunt and fight for them both. It would have been easier for her to let him die, but it's "in the interest of love" or something. She would have let him die if the rules didn't say that she could let him live.In the interest of an entirely unrealistic love, to be specific. Katniss provides everything while Peeta does nothing. Even though they were obviously attracted by personality, Katniss would likely get fed up at some point. (And did Peeta have personality beyond "loverboy" and Katniss beyond "bravery/loyalty"?)

You liked it being predictable?

The way I see it, I just wasted my time if I knew how it was going to end.


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#23 2012-10-12 17:34:57

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wasabi56 wrote:

Anyone read any Heinlein?  big_smile

I haven't, but I plan to read Starship Troopers some time.

NeilWest wrote:

The Veldt was the only Ray Bradbury book I've read, but it's enchanting and chilling.

I love The Veldt!  big_smile  One of my favorite Ray Bradbury stories.

Also, have you read Fahrenheit 451?

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#24 2012-10-12 17:41:48

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banana500 wrote:

wasabi56 wrote:

Anyone read any Heinlein?  big_smile

I haven't, but I plan to read Starship Troopers some time.

NeilWest wrote:

The Veldt was the only Ray Bradbury book I've read, but it's enchanting and chilling.

I love The Veldt!  big_smile  One of my favorite Ray Bradbury stories.

Also, have you read Fahrenheit 451?

Yep, had to read it for school.


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#25 2012-10-12 17:46:39

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I liked the Hunger Games. Note that I said like, not love.
The plot and everything was great, seriously. I loved the characters and the main story. But the one thing I didn't like was the way the author writes. She has a great imagination to come up with the story, but she can't write well at all! There are so many fragments and she doesn't use any nice descriptive words! > <


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