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jji7skyline wrote:

I don't celebrate birthdays, it's against my religion.

And it's the 9th of October here, no idea why it would be the 10th for you, since I'm ahead of you in time zones O.o

lennon's birthday is the ninth...

Happy birthday, John! You are one of the ultimate reasons why I got into music, and without you or your music, I wouldn't have been inspired to start a band in the first place. Thanks for all the brilliant and timeless music you created - you were a genius and the world will remember you forever.

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All4one wrote:

Happy birthday, John! You are one of the ultimate reasons why I got into music, and without you or your music, I wouldn't have been inspired to start a band in the first place. Thanks for all the brilliant and timeless music you created - you were a genius and the world will remember you forever.

Woo hoo! Happeh birthday!!!!!

(BTW, was this named after the song, "I Am The Walrus"? Just curious.)

Yep. That was our intention. 

jji7skyline wrote:

We should cover The Walruses after the Abbey Road album, but say "We are the Walruses" instead of "I am the Walrus". 

I am the egg man... They are the egg men... We are the Walruses... Googoobajoob...

Nah, that doesn't work out too well at all with the extra syllable.

For whatever reason, I don't seem to like the idea nor the extra syllable, but hey, that 's just me.

Haven't been on in a while, i'll try record my bass friday and ul it saturday.

I think we should also make a soundcloud account

Last edited by MrMokey (2012-10-10 09:50:19)

DIY wrote:

@MrMokey: Hey, you're not signed up on the roster... And I seem to recall you are the guy who has an upright bass and no electric bass. An upright bass cannot come anywhere near the authenticity of tone to an electric one, we ironed out earlier. 

You never said anything about that, and many of the greatest rock/pop/alternative bands use an upright bass for their live performances. I don't see many many bassists around here and I don't think you've ever heard an upright bass in real life.

MrMokey wrote:

DIY wrote:

@MrMokey: Hey, you're not signed up on the roster... And I seem to recall you are the guy who has an upright bass and no electric bass. An upright bass cannot come anywhere near the authenticity of tone to an electric one, we ironed out earlier. 

You never said anything about that, and many of the greatest rock/pop/alternative bands use an upright bass for their live performances. I don't see many many bassists around here and I don't think you've ever heard an upright bass in real life.

LOL, you're saying I've not heard an upright bass in real life? You must be joking; dude, I am a serious guitar player, and maybe more so bass and lead over anything else. Of course I've heard upright bass. The Beatles never used a plucked bass for any of their songs. Fact is, the sound is never the same. If we wanted to replicate Elvis Presley's Heartbreak Hotel or something, then maybe that would be a good idea. From years of playing bass, I can tell that it certainly doesn't sound the same and I'm definitely not a fan of this idea. It just won't sound authentic. Besides, we aren't recording any songs at the moment, and bass has been taken care of for now.

All4one, of course this is your decision, but I'm just stating my opinion.

Last edited by DIY (2012-10-10 11:58:13)

Hey, its me again. Remember me? The signature guy? No?
Well I'm going to review this collaboration.

From my experience of seeing the stuff you guys post plus the fact that I wasn't allowed in the collab, I think it is fair to say this is a picky collab. It seems like you guys are trying to replicate the songs perfectly. This is A COVER BAND. You are making a tribute to the Beatles, not trying to BE the Beatles.
If you want everything to replicate the Beatles get rid of everyone except for four, call them John, Paul, George and Ringo and make them play in real life, not over forums. Just face it guys, not everyone on a children's programming site is going to have the musical genius to match up to the Beatles skill level.
The reason I am being so curt about this? I tried to join, but wasn't allowed to because of the fact that a pianist wasn't needed. Then, somebody told me I could, so I spent hours perfecting 'Here comes the sun' just to be told 'Oh wait, piano isn't in the original song, we can't let you do that'. That was a waste of my time that could have been prevented if you guys were more clear on what you wanted. The exact same thing happened to me about  'All you need is love'. After I'm told I am not in fact useless, my use is now to make signatures. When I do, nobody uses them.
Not only that, but this collab, like many other 'bands', is going EXTREMELY slow. I check back long after being kicked out, and you guys are STILL working on the same two songs! Is there anything I can hear? Maybe I can be the judge if it is 'authentic' or not?
I don't mean to make you lose hope, because this has lots of potential, but your standards are too high. You want songs to sound very similar to the Beatles, which most people can't, which is why this is going so slow. If you lowered your standards, let more people in (you can have more than one musician per each instrument  ), and faced the truth that nobody here is capable of fully replicating the Beatles, then you would probably do better. You have let GOOD musicians go simply because they cannot play an instrument to a quality of a Beatle. MrMokey, a great bassist, pianist and electronic musician is now edging away from this collab because it is run so uptightly. I'd recommend him, you would definitely benefit from having him, and perhaps myself would be a good addition too (you haven't even heard me play! The only thing that you have judged me on is what instruments I play). So overall, I'd give this collab an 9/10 for the concept, 7/10 for management, 5/10 for friendliness, 4/10 for efficiency, and a big, fat 'N/A' for quality of music because, well, for a 'band' you don't have many songs finished.

Thank you for listening to what I say. I also apologize if I sounded rude, I'm just a little frustrated about how this has been run recently...
I'm glad you will take my suggestions and criticism into consideration.
Also, please feel free to call on me if you need piano or guitar! I'd really at least like to get a chance to record myself playing 'All you need is love', for example. Remember I am still here, and I can still do those nice signatures!

Wow. That was long.

I just have two things to say: Tribute bands are tribute bands and thus the reason All4one mentioned earlier that we'll do whatever it takes to come close to the sound. I do not see why we can't do so (a similar misconception was there with the other band I manage, Frozen Coco, that does our originals; people earlier thought we couldn't sound professional and were just a kid band). By ditching this view, it has resulted in much more mature song writing and polished results (we have seven releases to date with no other band here) and our work keeps getting better (you'll see in the next singles releasing soon). As an online band, of course we are restricted, and that also further limits us to being experimental and adventurous in our work; you never know how some new concept or added instrument will sound when added to the mix. We cannot and should not take that risk as it is duly not fair on the person who recorded it, thus the reason Frozen Coco are doing well. This is my view on our work ethic (again, I'm not the manager of this band, so just sharing my experience with Frozen Coco.

The second thing I'd like to say, is that management of an online band is not easy at all. It is so easy for you to say, 'a big, fat 'N/A' for quality of music because, well, for a 'band' you don't have many songs finished' which I find crude, given the fact that you've had no managing experience of an online band whatsoever. I think All4one is doing a much better job than tonnes of other bands formed here (too many have failed for e to care to count), so it is unfair to bluntly accuse he and us of no work. Seeing I had to take over mixing duties, things have become much harder as I need to juggle my work with Frozen Coco as All4one said, so progress is indeed slow. Nevertheless, we are doing great and I think this band has some talented musicians, so if you're implying anyone here is an extraordinarily good piano/guitar player or whatever, I'm sure jji and I have more than enough proficiency to handle those ourselves.

I'm not saying you're input is going to be of no help to the band, but your post did come across as harsh. I wanted to straighten things out there. Once we move onto the next singles, ideally we should be worried about them only then. Frozen Coco didn't release 'When I'm Beside You', planning what will be done for 'Early December'. I just think it makes sense here. jji and the rest of the band members (your view counts here again All4one) should be given priority over the stand-in guys, then this would be a fair group. It's a quantity vs. quality issue here. I don't think we should rush our singles just to move onto more recordings, but spend time perfecting each one, every step of the way.

All of the above are just my responses and views, All4one, feel free to disagree.

@DIY

First. By adding these instruments to the mix does not mean that they are officially in. By simply experimenting and seeing what sounds good does not harm anything.

From what I can see is that, taking your 'quality over quantity' into consideration, you are taking 3 roles. By having one person doing one thing really good rather than one person doing 3 things ok, it would be better to have more members.

Also, before the original post was updated I was listed as the bassist. Therefore I am not just a 'stand-in guy'.

@jjiskyline Just for further reference I do play plucked rather than bowed. I do play jazz and since I am having trouble findng some half decent tabs I will probably improvise some stuff 

Last edited by MrMokey (2012-10-10 21:56:42)

I actually regret not letting veggie in the band. He's an excellent drummer and Ringo didn't sing that much anyway. Oh well, at least his foray with "Quiet Please" seems to be working out.

@DIY - I agree with everything you said. It takes a long, gradual time and many steps to go from starting a band, receiving members little by little, and finally starting work on a single, especially if we want our single to sound as great as we can. Eddie Van Halen (though he has nothing to do with the Beatles  ) once said that making a cover can take as much time and work as writing an original song. Still, I think wiimaster is probably right about how we choose our members. Maybe we should try to be a bit more open-minded, and even if it's not exactly what was on the original recording, it might still resemble it to an extent and could actually work better than we expected.

Last edited by All4one (2012-10-10 22:02:44)