Scratch

LS97 wrote:

cheddargirl wrote:

As for the forum post count issue: If the main problem here is about keeping the forum post count, then you guys want to rethink the reason for posting on the Scratch forums in the first place. The forums are supposed to be a place where users can talk about Scratch and for Scratchers to talk about things they make or enjoy outside of Scratch. There's no reason to be obsessed at getting the forum post count to a high number, or, in the case of the upcoming Scratch 2.0 forums, being overly upset from restarting the post count from zero.

You bring up a good point, cheddargirl, in that many Scratchers are obsessed with having a high post count because they see it as a "status symbol".

However, in my opinion the registration date and post count both serve as an essential way of identifying the level of experience of a Scratcher never seen before. New users, especially, when asking a question about Scratch will regard answers from users with a higher post count more valuable than those from scratchers with fewer posts.

I believe you should rethink the decision of zeroing all post counts in the transition to the new system: does it really give more benefits than losses?

Actually, the real question is the feasibility of transferring the post count to the new system. A lot of people keep insisting that there is a tool to transfer all the old forum post aspect to the new one, thus giving the assumption that the transition to the new forums is going to be easy. The reality of the situation is that it isn't because the code beneath the forum is complex (both the old and the new one), and a lot of things are easier said than done. If the transfer is complex, then restarting fresh is going to be a lot better than dealing with potential bugs with a transitioning process (so yeah, more benefits than losses.  ).

MrFlash67 wrote:

Perhaps there should be a "View BBcode" button so you can copy-and-paste stuff from the old forum to the new one?

In-thread bump...

LS97 wrote:

cheddargirl wrote:

Actually, the real question is the feasibility of transferring the post count to the new system. A lot of people keep insisting that there is a tool to transfer all the old forum post aspect to the new one, thus giving the assumption that the transition to the new forums is going to be easy. The reality of the situation is that it isn't because the code beneath the forum is complex (both the old and the new one), and a lot of things are easier said than done. If the transfer is complex, then restarting fresh is going to be a lot better than dealing with potential bugs with a transitioning process (so yeah, more benefits than losses.  ).

Maybe there aren't many tools that allow you to transfer such specific aspects of FluxBB to other forums. However, it really only takes half an hour to develop a script that retrieves all the post counts from the old database and assigns them to the new one according to the username. I've seen many half hours wasted by the Scratch Team on more trivial and useless issues, so why not spend some more on something that will make the community happier?

Getting the bugs fixed for Scratch 2.0 is trivial and useless? I never knew you guys to be more focused on your forums than fixing the bugs of the Scratch 2.0 software and website itself! 

You guys make the issue sound so easy to resolve when it's not. There have been times when the Scratch Team implements a change on the site, it results in some unknown consequence. But aside from that issue, Scratch in itself encompasses more than the community using Scratch - the development of the website and software has to also embrace the ideas behind Scratch itself. And while transferring the posts and forum post count would make the few hundred forum users happy, the main goal right now would be making the software and website safe, friendly, and feasible to use for the few hundred thousand users who use the site everyday (and the ones to come in the future). The Scratch Team, having been involved in the development of the Scratch and Scratch website for a long time, usually have better insight into the goal of Scratch and how to reach that goal - and right now, things like working on the 2.0 paint editor, improving the flag/report system, and fixing any bugs found on the Flash player are more important than making the effort to transfer forum posts and post counts. If there is some conscious effort to transfer forum posts and post counts in the future, it would have to long after the Scratch 2.0 website is established when everything is settled - but right now, there's no plan on getting it transferred, and from the outlook of things right now it seems better to have a fresh new forum while having the old one archived.

I'm ok with this as long as the old forums are still accessible as a read-only version, I don't see what the big deal is about having a high post count

One question though, will posts in Misc. and Inpiration and More still be accesible in a read-only archive?

personally i look forward to new forums

all nice and clean, and probably less boring color schemes...

angryninja wrote:

hu

and you mean what ?

ok so will all the posts actually be deleted fully and completely or will there be some sort of archive to go through them

777w wrote:

ok so will all the posts actually be deleted fully and completely or will there be some sort of archive to go through them

These forums will become an archive.

TRocket wrote:

Will everyone start as a new scratcher?

Only the new scratchers will stay as new scratchers.

Last edited by ErnieParke (2012-10-02 06:01:53)

Snowdrift wrote:

And besides, you could tell new scratchers that you came from "the old forums" 

there should be like an extra rank for that

Guys, just save your rps, and your good. Now should care about post numbers. 

nama wrote:

777w wrote:

ok so will all the posts actually be deleted fully and completely or will there be some sort of archive to go through them

read-only archive

but the TGBs will be deleted

funelephant wrote:

That's not the issue 

All our topics... gone!

We have to repost everything we made!

it's really not that hard to transfer the database.

actually the way i understand it its very hard and takes too much work