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777w · 2012-09-20 17:25:49

☞make sure to note that the fist sign can replace bullets and the § sign can replace ¶

Wickimen · 2012-09-20 17:47:41

wiimaster wrote:
Wickimen wrote:
They create ambiguity, are annoying and are useless
Wrong.
In most cases, NOT using an oxford comma creates ambiguity.

For example:
With the oxford comma:
To my parents, Ayn Rand, and God.

Without:
To my parents, Ayn Rand and God

In reality, the speaker is talking about three different things:
His parents
Ayn Rand
God

Without the oxford comma, it implies that they are saying their parents are Ayn Rand and God, which isn't true. The oxford comma fixes this.

(Example from wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_comma)

EDIT: It appears I am a bit late. (by a bit, I mean a lot.)

"Most cases"
What have you like
Counted

Anyways
It's a matter of preference and not a real grammar rule so I can not use them if I want!

Last edited by Wickimen (2012-09-20 17:47:58)

wiimaster · 2012-09-20 17:53:39

Wickimen wrote:
wiimaster wrote:
Wickimen wrote:
They create ambiguity, are annoying and are useless
Wrong.
In most cases, NOT using an oxford comma creates ambiguity.

For example:
With the oxford comma:
To my parents, Ayn Rand, and God.

Without:
To my parents, Ayn Rand and God

In reality, the speaker is talking about three different things:
His parents
Ayn Rand
God

Without the oxford comma, it implies that they are saying their parents are Ayn Rand and God, which isn't true. The oxford comma fixes this.

(Example from wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_comma)

EDIT: It appears I am a bit late. (by a bit, I mean a lot.)
"Most cases"
What have you like
Counted

Anyways
It's a matter of preference and not a real grammar rule so I can not use them if I want!

No, I have not counted; 'most cases' is vague for a reason. Did I specify a number? No tongue

I'm not forcing you to use it, I'm just saying people should because it is much better...

Last edited by wiimaster (2012-09-20 17:53:56)

Wickimen · 2012-09-20 17:56:52

"Most cases" means there are more, which you wouldn't know if you didn't count them

soupoftomato · 2012-09-20 21:23:14

Wickimen wrote:
"Most cases" means there are more, which you wouldn't know if you didn't count them

He can safely say he's seen an unuse of Oxford Commas create ambiguity more often than using them has, without having specific numbers.

Agg725 · 2012-09-20 21:37:45

What's an Oxford comma?

soupoftomato · 2012-09-20 21:45:38

Agg725 wrote:
What's an Oxford comma?

An Oxford comma is using commas before the "and" in a list of three or more items.

"We bought apples, bananas, and grapes." uses an Oxford Comma.

If you were to us the WRONG comma, it would be "We bought apples, bananas and grapes."

Firedrake969 · 2012-09-20 21:51:19

Let's eat grandma!
Let's eat, grandma!

Wickimen · 2012-09-21 17:44:45

soupoftomato wrote:
Agg725 wrote:
What's an Oxford comma?
An Oxford comma is using commas before the "and" in a list of three or more items.

"We bought apples, bananas, and grapes." uses an Oxford Comma.

If you were to us the WRONG comma, it would be "We bought apples, bananas and grapes."

*use

What do you mean WRONG comma
It's a matter of opinion soup and I can neglect use it if I feel that is what's correct

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Wickimen · 2012-09-21 17:46:16

soupoftomato wrote:
Wickimen wrote:
"Most cases" means there are more, which you wouldn't know if you didn't count them
He can safely say he's seen an unuse of Oxford Commas create ambiguity more often than using them has, without having specific numbers.

How so

soupoftomato · 2012-09-21 19:46:48

Wickimen wrote:
soupoftomato wrote:
Wickimen wrote:
"Most cases" means there are more, which you wouldn't know if you didn't count them
He can safely say he's seen an unuse of Oxford Commas create ambiguity more often than using them has, without having specific numbers.
How so

Couldn't you observe that more people take chocolate milk at lunch than white milk, without counting?

Wickimen · 2012-09-21 20:05:14

soupoftomato wrote:
Wickimen wrote:
soupoftomato wrote:

He can safely say he's seen an unuse of Oxford Commas create ambiguity more often than using them has, without having specific numbers.
How so
Couldn't you observe that more people take chocolate milk at lunch than white milk, without counting?

It's a bit more complicated than that in this case though
It's the ENGLISH LANGUAGE!1
Far more expansive
And stuff

agscratcher · 2012-09-21 20:27:57

Interrobang sounds like the name of a Pulp Fiction spinoff.

Are you listening, Quentin Tarantino‽ You better be taking notes.

Agg725 · 2012-09-21 21:06:48

soupoftomato wrote:
Agg725 wrote:
What's an Oxford comma?
An Oxford comma is using commas before the "and" in a list of three or more items.

"We bought apples, bananas, and grapes." uses an Oxford Comma.

If you were to us the WRONG comma, it would be "We bought apples, bananas and grapes."

In that case, I use Oxford Commas.

777w · 2012-09-21 21:15:06

guys i dont think oxford commas are a very unorthodox type of punctuation

funelephant · 2012-09-21 21:17:38

I like semi-colons tongue

soupoftomato · 2012-09-21 21:18:40

funelephant wrote:
I like semi-colons

Those are not particularly unorthodox either.

If you can make the marking without reprogramming your keyboard or using alt-commands it's not unorthodox.

Last edited by soupoftomato (2012-09-21 21:19:11)

777w · 2012-09-21 21:19:02

funelephant wrote:
I like semi-colons

theyre not unorthodox either although i agree, and if marrying punctuation were legal or logical id marry the semicolon

funelephant · 2012-09-21 21:19:19

I know. I saw semi colons on the other page.

I just like them :3

agscratcher · 2012-09-21 21:20:49

Let's not forget the generic currency placeholder, ¤. ¤ is a cool guy. You can also make a cool emoticon out of it: ¤.¤

777w · 2012-09-21 21:23:22

agscratcher wrote:
Let's not forget the generic currency placeholder, ¤. ¤ is a cool guy. You can also make a cool emoticon out of it: ¤.¤

you can make a cool emoticon out of just about anything
؟o؟

funelephant · 2012-09-21 21:23:29

I guess - is unorthodox?

777w · 2012-09-21 21:25:27

funelephant wrote:
I guess - is unorthodox?

no you see dashes like everywhere all the time

funelephant · 2012-09-21 21:27:19

Dang.

Uh...

∵

The because symbol tongue

777w · 2012-09-21 21:29:05

funelephant wrote:
Dang.

Uh...

∵

The because symbol

i bet you pulled that from wikipedia like everybody else including me

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