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777w · 2012-09-19 20:56:44

there are many types of punctuation, and there are probably more than you even know
take for example, the irony mark, proposed in the 19th century by alcanter de brahm

"oh your art is simply gorgeous؟"

or the interrobang

"why would you do that man‽"

do you use these in writing or are they completely alien to you?
what other types of punctuation are there, besides the ones that everyone knows?

Last edited by 777w (2012-09-19 20:58:04)

Wickimen · 2012-09-19 20:59:32

Both are cool
I like semicolons too but they aren't unorthodox
Uhh

Oxford commas /should/ be unorthodox

veggieman001 · 2012-09-19 21:00:32

Wicki shut up⸮ Oxford commas are the best

anyway yes I recently replaced the accent/tilde key on my keyboard with an irony mark/interrobang key. It's quite lovely

Wickimen · 2012-09-19 21:01:52

They are not! At school I have formed this Oxford comma hate group in the art room!
But who couldn't love the asterism

wiimaster · 2012-09-19 21:03:08

Wickimen wrote:
Both are cool
I like semicolons too but they aren't unorthodox
Uhh

Oxford commas /should/ be unorthodox

I totally support Oxford Commas.

Wickimen · 2012-09-19 21:04:45

They create ambiguity, are annoying and are useless

veggieman001 · 2012-09-19 21:04:59

Wickimen wrote:
They are not! At school I have formed this Oxford comma hate group in the art room!
But who couldn't love the asterism

Ah, the asterism. How could one ever forget!

⁂

That disappoints me sad

veggieman001 · 2012-09-19 21:06:18

Wickimen wrote:
They create ambiguity, are annoying and are useless

More like what not using an Oxford comma does <.<

Wickimen · 2012-09-19 21:07:24

veggieman001 wrote:
Wickimen wrote:
They create ambiguity, are annoying and are useless
More like what not using an Oxford comma does <.<

I see, so it's useless to not use one?
logik pls

Wickimen · 2012-09-19 21:08:55

We literally have our own little hate group though
Discussing their uselessness
Correcting teachers when they're used
Crossing them out in the textbooks /pencil though

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veggieman001 · 2012-09-19 21:09:12

Wickimen wrote:
veggieman001 wrote:
Wickimen wrote:
They create ambiguity, are annoying and are useless
More like what not using an Oxford comma does <.<
I see, so it's useless to not use one?
logik pls

Not using one is annoying and creates ambiguity. It's useless to not put in the extra effort of one keypress to solve so many problems!

Wickimen · 2012-09-19 21:09:59

veggieman001 wrote:
Wickimen wrote:
veggieman001 wrote:
More like what not using an Oxford comma does <.<
I see, so it's useless to not use one?
logik pls
Not using one is annoying and creates ambiguity. It's useless to not put in the extra effort of one keypress to solve so many problems!

I visited Santa Claus, my mother, and Freddy.
Ambiguity
HOW ARE WE TO KNOW SANTA ISN'T THIS PERSON'S MOTHER؟

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veggieman001 · 2012-09-19 21:42:08

Wickimen wrote:
veggieman001 wrote:
Wickimen wrote:

I see, so it's useless to not use one?
logik pls
Not using one is annoying and creates ambiguity. It's useless to not put in the extra effort of one keypress to solve so many problems!
I visited Santa Claus, my mother, and Freddy.
Ambiguity
HOW ARE WE TO KNOW SANTA ISN'T THIS PERSON'S MOTHER؟

I visited Santa Claus, my mother and Freddy.

How are we to know Santa isn't this person's mother and Freddy teamed up in an unbreakable pact to bring gifts to children!

Wickimen · 2012-09-19 21:43:14

veggieman001 wrote:
Wickimen wrote:
veggieman001 wrote:

Not using one is annoying and creates ambiguity. It's useless to not put in the extra effort of one keypress to solve so many problems!
I visited Santa Claus, my mother, and Freddy.
Ambiguity
HOW ARE WE TO KNOW SANTA ISN'T THIS PERSON'S MOTHER؟
I visited Santa Claus, my mother and Freddy.

How are we to know Santa isn't this person's mother and Freddy teamed up in an unbreakable pact to bring gifts to children!

The mother can't have two names!!
Or can she...

veggieman001 · 2012-09-19 21:51:27

Wickimen wrote:
veggieman001 wrote:
Wickimen wrote:

I visited Santa Claus, my mother, and Freddy.
Ambiguity
HOW ARE WE TO KNOW SANTA ISN'T THIS PERSON'S MOTHER؟
I visited Santa Claus, my mother and Freddy.

How are we to know Santa isn't this person's mother and Freddy teamed up in an unbreakable pact to bring gifts to children!
The mother can't have two names!!
Or can she...

What??

Wickimen · 2012-09-19 21:56:40

veggieman001 wrote:
Wickimen wrote:
veggieman001 wrote:

I visited Santa Claus, my mother and Freddy.

How are we to know Santa isn't this person's mother and Freddy teamed up in an unbreakable pact to bring gifts to children!
The mother can't have two names!!
Or can she...
What??

I thought you meant
"Santa Claus, [is] my mother and Freddy"
And I was like THE MOTHER CAN'T BE CALLED FREDDY /AND/ SANTA

But I don't understand how it creates ambiguity in another way

veggieman001 · 2012-09-19 22:01:55

Wickimen wrote:
veggieman001 wrote:
Wickimen wrote:

The mother can't have two names!!
Or can she...
What??
I thought you meant
"Santa Claus, [is] my mother and Freddy"
And I was like THE MOTHER CAN'T BE CALLED FREDDY /AND/ SANTA

But I don't understand how it creates ambiguity in another way

Well, it's not listing Santa Claus and my mother and Freddy anymore. It's saying Santa is a guise for my mother and Freddy, which would be said by a child that calls their step-father by his first name.

Wickimen · 2012-09-19 22:04:23

veggieman001 wrote:
Wickimen wrote:
veggieman001 wrote:

What??
I thought you meant
"Santa Claus, [is] my mother and Freddy"
And I was like THE MOTHER CAN'T BE CALLED FREDDY /AND/ SANTA

But I don't understand how it creates ambiguity in another way
Well, it's not listing Santa Claus and my mother and Freddy anymore. It's saying Santa is a guise for my mother and Freddy, which would be said by a child that calls their step-father by his first name.

It's more plausible for people to believe that Santa Claus[e] is "my mother" than for them to believe whatever you're saying

veggieman001 · 2012-09-19 22:14:54

Wickimen wrote:
veggieman001 wrote:
Wickimen wrote:
I thought you meant
"Santa Claus, [is] my mother and Freddy"
And I was like THE MOTHER CAN'T BE CALLED FREDDY /AND/ SANTA

But I don't understand how it creates ambiguity in another way
Well, it's not listing Santa Claus and my mother and Freddy anymore. It's saying Santa is a guise for my mother and Freddy, which would be said by a child that calls their step-father by his first name.
It's more plausible for people to believe that Santa Claus[e] is "my mother" than for them to believe whatever you're saying

I don't think so!
Well, it depends on the type of people you know.

Wickimen · 2012-09-19 22:39:47

Namely unimaginative ones who could not come up with something so complex

wiimaster · 2012-09-20 15:41:19

Wickimen wrote:
They create ambiguity, are annoying and are useless

Wrong.
In most cases, NOT using an oxford comma creates ambiguity.

For example:
With the oxford comma:
To my parents, Ayn Rand, and God.

Without:
To my parents, Ayn Rand and God

In reality, the speaker is talking about three different things:
His parents
Ayn Rand
God

Without the oxford comma, it implies that they are saying their parents are Ayn Rand and God, which isn't true. The oxford comma fixes this.

(Example from wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_comma)

EDIT: It appears I am a bit late. (by a bit, I mean a lot.) tongue

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scimonster · 2012-09-20 15:54:24

Wickimen wrote:
Both are cool
I like semicolons too but they aren't unorthodox
Uhh

Oxford commas /should/ be unorthodox

Oxford commas are nice. :3

I come across ∴ (therefore) in my mathbook a bunch, and it's grown on me. tongue

RedRocker227 · 2012-09-20 17:21:11

veggieman001 wrote:
Wicki shut up⸮ Oxford commas are the best

anyway yes I recently replaced the accent/tilde key on my keyboard with an irony mark/interrobang key. It's quite lovely

What how could you get rid of the tilde

They're the best

777w · 2012-09-20 17:23:25

dagger†‡

† this dagger is used for footnotes and possibly murder
‡ this double dagger is even more fun

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jukyter · 2012-09-20 17:24:17

RedRocker227 wrote:
veggieman001 wrote:
Wicki shut up⸮ Oxford commas are the best

anyway yes I recently replaced the accent/tilde key on my keyboard with an irony mark/interrobang key. It's quite lovely
What how could you get rid of the tilde

They're the best

No ;;;;;;
I still have fondness towards those things
Semicolon spam :') ;;;;;

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