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#76 2012-09-12 21:57:38

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Re: Apple Special Event: September 12th

Well, the icons are square, so it'd be weird to have to scale them or something. It's all about having things uniform. Anyway... what do you think of the new nano? I preferred the older one  tongue


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#77 2012-09-12 22:01:51

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Re: Apple Special Event: September 12th

In my personal opinion, I think the nano has been going downhill since the fourth or fifth generation.


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#78 2012-09-12 22:07:47

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Re: Apple Special Event: September 12th

Meh, I'm still waiting for the Anonymous attack.

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#79 2012-09-12 22:12:35

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Re: Apple Special Event: September 12th

jji7skyline wrote:

what do you think of the new nano?

Should Nokia sue?

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#80 2012-09-12 23:39:00

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Re: Apple Special Event: September 12th

fire219 wrote:

jji7skyline wrote:

It's been released!

iOS6
iPhone 5
iPod Touch 5G
iPod Nano Redesign
Lightning dock

Despite what people are saying about Apple not using standard Micro USB cables but still using proprietry cables, I think it's better that way. The Lightning dock is like the magsafe cable, and I can just imagine it sliding seamlessly into a iDevice. Micro A/B cables however, are not smooth, they get caught, get bent, get stuck, often get broken and are definitely not right for the overall experience of iPhones and other iDevices.  smile

I think the new connector will cause a whole lot of headaches for people. They will spend $50 on a dock (or whatever you want to imagine the iDevice plugged in), only to find that their brand new device won't fit.

Of course, Apple will be more than happy to fix that by selling adapters, while making more money in the process.

And only the cheap microUSB cables that come with stuff break and get stuck.  wink

For the rest of the new iPhone features, the bigger screen is cool, but all the other features are either expected or long overdue. The iTouch was just upgraded to a 4S minus cellular radio, and no one really cares about the Nano anymore.  tongue

It's easy to sit back and say you don't like change; I don't like change either. But the new connector is the future and it's not for money. The new connected is better and I think it's important to remember that you have to be willing to change things to advance in technology. Yes it will be a bit of a pain to start with, but in a short period of time it will have a positive effect.


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#81 2012-09-12 23:40:05

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Re: Apple Special Event: September 12th

soupoftomato wrote:

jji7skyline wrote:

what do you think of the new nano?

Should Nokia sue?

http://i.imgur.com/9ZiLH.jpg

No, I'm getting tired of the suing from Apple and everybody else; besides Nokia's design there sucks.

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#82 2012-09-12 23:45:20

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Re: Apple Special Event: September 12th

stevetheipad wrote:

soupoftomato wrote:

jji7skyline wrote:

what do you think of the new nano?

Should Nokia sue?

http://i.imgur.com/9ZiLH.jpg

No, I'm getting tired of the suing from Apple and everybody else; besides Nokia's design there sucks.

Care to explain why it sucks, or just going to say it does?


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#83 2012-09-12 23:57:29

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Re: Apple Special Event: September 12th

I think the Windows logo (now outdated of course) in the centre bottom there, ruins it completely, an otherwise nice design  tongue


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#84 2012-09-12 23:58:14

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Re: Apple Special Event: September 12th

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I think the Windows logo (now outdated of course) in the centre bottom there, ruins it completely, an otherwise nice design  tongue

:I


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#85 2012-09-13 00:00:31

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Re: Apple Special Event: September 12th

veggieman001 wrote:

jji7skyline wrote:

I think the Windows logo (now outdated of course) in the centre bottom there, ruins it completely, an otherwise nice design  tongue

:I

You know I'm kidding right?  tongue


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#86 2012-09-13 00:02:30

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Re: Apple Special Event: September 12th

XD

It actually looks pretty good :3


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#87 2012-09-13 00:12:54

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Re: Apple Special Event: September 12th

jji7skyline wrote:

veggieman001 wrote:

jji7skyline wrote:

I think the Windows logo (now outdated of course) in the centre bottom there, ruins it completely, an otherwise nice design  tongue

:I

You know I'm kidding right?  tongue

Yes, of course. Just :I at the ridiculosity of your statement.


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#88 2012-09-13 00:41:39

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Re: Apple Special Event: September 12th

veggieman001 wrote:

stevetheipad wrote:

soupoftomato wrote:


Should Nokia sue?

http://i.imgur.com/9ZiLH.jpg

No, I'm getting tired of the suing from Apple and everybody else; besides Nokia's design there sucks.

Care to explain why it sucks, or just going to say it does?

The biggest thing is the three buttons at the bottom; not simple, not easy to use and not as innovative.


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#89 2012-09-13 00:45:39

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Re: Apple Special Event: September 12th

stevetheipad wrote:

veggieman001 wrote:

stevetheipad wrote:


No, I'm getting tired of the suing from Apple and everybody else; besides Nokia's design there sucks.

Care to explain why it sucks, or just going to say it does?

The biggest thing is the three buttons at the bottom; not simple, not easy to use and not as innovative.

Ah, but I disagree. I personally don't like touchscreens as much, so having two more buttons is both not really a big deal and allows me to use devices like that more. Also, I don't really see how it's more 'innovative' or groundbreaking, having less buttons.


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#90 2012-09-13 01:04:23

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I just don't like those stupid touch buttons, and I'm relieved Apple didn't use it for their home buttons. They have absolutely no feedback like a real button, and when the system freezes, those buttons stop working. Just stupid.


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#91 2012-09-13 05:57:37

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Re: Apple Special Event: September 12th

jji7skyline wrote:

I think the Windows logo (now outdated of course) in the centre bottom there, ruins it completely, an otherwise nice design  tongue

That reminds me... http://windowsteamblog.com/windows/b/bl … -logo.aspx lol.


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#92 2012-09-13 06:07:54

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Re: Apple Special Event: September 12th

Interesting, but I like one of the comments.

"What are we going to do with the outdated versions on our keyboards?"  tongue


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#93 2012-09-13 06:09:58

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Re: Apple Special Event: September 12th

jji7skyline wrote:

Interesting, but I like one of the comments.

"What are we going to do with the outdated versions on our keyboards?"  tongue

Lol.  tongue


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#94 2012-09-13 09:23:25

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Re: Apple Special Event: September 12th

jji7skyline wrote:

Interesting, but I like one of the comments.

"What are we going to do with the outdated versions on our keyboards?"  tongue

That's what silver Sharpies are for  wink


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#95 2012-09-13 09:27:39

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Which reminds me. I printed out a tiny rocket and stuck it on my f5 key. Now it's a launchpad shortcut  tongue


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#96 2012-09-13 16:56:10

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Re: Apple Special Event: September 12th

stevetheipad wrote:

fire219 wrote:

jji7skyline wrote:

It's been released!

iOS6
iPhone 5
iPod Touch 5G
iPod Nano Redesign
Lightning dock

Despite what people are saying about Apple not using standard Micro USB cables but still using proprietry cables, I think it's better that way. The Lightning dock is like the magsafe cable, and I can just imagine it sliding seamlessly into a iDevice. Micro A/B cables however, are not smooth, they get caught, get bent, get stuck, often get broken and are definitely not right for the overall experience of iPhones and other iDevices.  smile

I think the new connector will cause a whole lot of headaches for people. They will spend $50 on a dock (or whatever you want to imagine the iDevice plugged in), only to find that their brand new device won't fit.

Of course, Apple will be more than happy to fix that by selling adapters, while making more money in the process.

And only the cheap microUSB cables that come with stuff break and get stuck.  wink

For the rest of the new iPhone features, the bigger screen is cool, but all the other features are either expected or long overdue. The iTouch was just upgraded to a 4S minus cellular radio, and no one really cares about the Nano anymore.  tongue

It's easy to sit back and say you don't like change; I don't like change either. But the new connector is the future and it's not for money. The new connected is better and I think it's important to remember that you have to be willing to change things to advance in technology. Yes it will be a bit of a pain to start with, but in a short period of time it will have a positive effect.

I have no problem with change. If it wasn't for change, we would still be cavemen. But what I do have a problem with is change that isn't for the better. If the new connector protocol had any faster transfer (it doesn't/won't, despite what Apple says), for example, it may be worth it. But it is still USB signals, like the old one (though Apple probably will make a Thunderbolt version).

Which brings up another problem: it is just another USB connector. The more kinds of connectors (with no/little difference between them) there are on the market, the more the market is segmented. It also means that consumers have to spend more money on more kinds of cables. Also, it bad for the environment (more cables = more trash in landfills).

Imagine if all the devices in the world used just one universal connector (doesn't have to be microUSB, but it is the most likely candidate). No market segmentation, more money in consumer's pockets, and less dead cables in landfill.

This is why the Lightning connector is bad for everybody.


@jj: Yes, touch buttons suck. They look cool, but are more trouble than they are worth. Just like the lightning connector.  tongue


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#97 2012-09-13 18:25:28

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Re: Apple Special Event: September 12th

The lightning dock looks tough, with no copper contacts sticking out, plus it logos like it would slide very smoothly into the iPhone. It can even be inserted both ways. No micro USB cable match that. If only all devices used the lightning dock...  tongue


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#98 2012-09-13 19:12:10

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Re: Apple Special Event: September 12th

jji7skyline wrote:

The lightning dock looks tough, with no copper contacts sticking out, plus it logos like it would slide very smoothly into the iPhone. It can even be inserted both ways. No micro USB cable match that. If only all devices used the lightning dock...  tongue

To me, it looks like it could be easily snapped, but that is up to opinion I guess.

More devices could use the lightning connector, if Apple wouldn't charge them up the wazoo for the rights to. But since companies don't want to pay alot to use a connector that doesn't have any real advantages except being flippable, they will stick with MicroUSB.


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#99 2012-09-13 19:34:05

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I hate Micro USB. >.<


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#100 2012-09-13 19:43:42

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Re: Apple Special Event: September 12th

Me too, but not everyone has the money to design and produce their own connector.


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