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Bklecka wrote:

Zeusking19 wrote:

Below is a message from nervesplitter, who is hosting the server.

Nervesplitter wrote:

Although Towny is a decent plugin, it is not what we need, people are coming onto the server looking for a safe place to stay and build a nice town to be torn apart by war-hungry towns who try their best to get everyone on their side or destroy them.

Until I can finish my plugin I think it'd be a good idea to use Factions, 16's "Less PvP than before" slogan is mis-selling the server, people want PvP and they will force it upon those who don't want it. You can not have non-PvP and PvP on the same map, human nature won't allow it. There was more teamwork than ever on the old DC which had factions, more impressive things were built and those who didn't want war weren't forced to, you could go far away from everyone else and nobody would find you and it was a paradise.

I think we can all agree that the best days of DC were the Factions ones, my best memories were skirmishing with SAFF and building big underground networks, wars were never won because people had willpower, you didn't put loads of effort into a base if you were at war. Towny doesn't offer this, Towny is security flaws built ontop of eachother, and if you keep reinforcing a crack sooner or later it will break free and become a huge hole, entire cities can be torn to the ground from a single person, hours of work can be lost just by using one command. Towny is not made for PvP the same way Factions is.

What are your thoughts on this? It'd obviously mean getting a new map, but the old one will go up for download and I might even be able to get Dynmap working. It'd also mean no Iconomy, because chestshop can already be used to safely store items. But we'll go back to the normal DC, just without the 10 second lag and buggy plugins.

support * infinity

Uh, I'm surprised you support. I've never seen you as one who can take deaths well...

Zeusking19 wrote:

Below is a message from nervesplitter, who is hosting the server.

Nervesplitter wrote:

Although Towny is a decent plugin, it is not what we need, people are coming onto the server looking for a safe place to stay and build a nice town to be torn apart by war-hungry towns who try their best to get everyone on their side or destroy them.

Until I can finish my plugin I think it'd be a good idea to use Factions, 16's "Less PvP than before" slogan is mis-selling the server, people want PvP and they will force it upon those who don't want it. You can not have non-PvP and PvP on the same map, human nature won't allow it. There was more teamwork than ever on the old DC which had factions, more impressive things were built and those who didn't want war weren't forced to, you could go far away from everyone else and nobody would find you and it was a paradise.

I think we can all agree that the best days of DC were the Factions ones, my best memories were skirmishing with SAFF and building big underground networks, wars were never won because people had willpower, you didn't put loads of effort into a base if you were at war. Towny doesn't offer this, Towny is security flaws built ontop of eachother, and if you keep reinforcing a crack sooner or later it will break free and become a huge hole, entire cities can be torn to the ground from a single person, hours of work can be lost just by using one command. Towny is not made for PvP the same way Factions is.

What are your thoughts on this? It'd obviously mean getting a new map, but the old one will go up for download and I might even be able to get Dynmap working. It'd also mean no Iconomy, because chestshop can already be used to safely store items. But we'll go back to the normal DC, just without the 10 second lag and buggy plugins.

Yes. Yes, PLEASE. SUPPORT. 

16Skittles wrote:

I had all but forsaken DC recently, to be honest. We need to make the change back to the old ways. This was an experiment; and a failed one at that. Unfortunately I have little time to actually go on the server, so we need some moderators as well. This weekend I am occupied by Ludum Dare, and next week I will be on a school field trip to a camp in Wisconsin. I really haven't been motivated at all to play Minecraft, and I apologize for letting the server go apart like this.

I can be a mod, I'll have plenty of time after the 1st of september, maybe a bit before. If you want though, I could check it once every day until then.

werdna123 wrote:

Funny how the people going "Support +5million hooray" are the people who were against fighting and wars. (specifically bklecka and banana500)

Well, I'm supporting because of the change back to Factions. 

Whitelist Me!!!!!!!

nervesplitter wrote:

The server will be down today to make changes.

To answer questions:

Yes, inventories will be reset.
Yes, enderchests will be disabled.
Yes, Towny will be replaced with Factions.
Yes, there will be a new map.
Yes, the old map will go up for download.
No, we won't have Dynmap, as some people just want to build and Dynmap allows their personal building haven to be found.
Yes, Iconomy and chestshop will be removed, as Factions require no money, and chestshop allows items to be stored safe.

It should be down at 2pm GMT and won't be back up for 30 minutes-2 hours while changes are made.

I will try beforehand to get a decent map, I don't want whatever is generated because I want a decent map which has potential.

Hopefully there will be less power mongering and people won't stick their nose in other people's factions, factions who just want to build can do so without someone saying "No, I want war with you". Of course, this is just a mindset, I know many players who will start war with anyone just to annoy players.

Last edited by Zeusking19 (2012-08-26 03:37:01)

There should be. Otherwise, a faction leader could just get bored, think, "Let's attack a random faction", and there goes a carefully constructed base, precios itms, and such. All on the random whims of some faction. I don't think that would be a step up from the current situation.

Zeusking19 wrote:

nervesplitter wrote:

The server will be down today to make changes.

To answer questions:

Yes, inventories will be reset.
Yes, enderchests will be disabled.
Yes, Towny will be replaced with Factions.
Yes, there will be a new map.
Yes, the old map will go up for download.
No, we won't have Dynmap, as some people just want to build and Dynmap allows their personal building haven to be found.
Yes, Iconomy and chestshop will be removed, as Factions require no money, and chestshop allows items to be stored safe.

It should be down at 2pm GMT and won't be back up for 30 minutes-2 hours while changes are made.

I will try beforehand to get a decent map, I don't want whatever is generated because I want a decent map which has potential.

Hopefully there will be less power mongering and people won't stick their nose in other people's factions, factions who just want to build can do so without someone saying "No, I want war with you". Of course, this is just a mindset, I know many players who will start war with anyone just to annoy players.

AWWWW YEAH!!!

I like the old factions! And I LOVE pvp!
Can I be whitelisted?

Last edited by wiimaster (2012-08-26 07:53:07)

Bklecka wrote:

werdna123 wrote:

KONKODO

http://i50.tinypic.com/2n9e44x.png
The large city of Fort Konkodo.
7th August - 26th August

TORRES
http://i48.tinypic.com/344yyo1.png
The remains of a once powerful city. Destroyed by Konkodo.
9th August - 24th August

your powerful city is going away 

We'll see...

Can someone get on and tell nerve to kill the whitelist? I'm in the middle of Ludum Dare at the moment. 

Got disconnected.