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jji7skyline wrote:

I guess I was a bit too generalised with that statement. Sorry guys. Macs are better for productivity IMO though.

I think any computer can be the best for productivity for an individual if they like the available software on the system and how the system is actually laid out.

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veggieman001 wrote:

jji7skyline wrote:

I guess I was a bit too generalised with that statement. Sorry guys. Macs are better for productivity IMO though.

I think any computer can be the best for productivity for an individual if they like the available software on the system and how the system is actually laid out.

Good point, but I personally think that if a person knew how to best utilise both OSs, OSX would come first. The control over the apps running (as I mentioned before), desktop spaces (yes I know windows has them with 3rd party tools and ubuntu has them by default, but they aren't as smooth or work as well as osx spaces does), the actual dock itself, as well as the way that all the apps co-operate very well wins it for me. Then again, the minimise/maximise features are great on Windows, and I still slightly miss that, but with full screen apps, it really doesn't matter anymore, and on a large display like mine, maximised browsers just look obnoxious (I dual boot with bootcamp so I know).

@soup: Xerox was a commercial computer company, rather than a company that built computers for personal use. Xerox obviously didn't think that the mouse would be very useful.

BirdByte wrote:

Macs are the most advanced, and jji is right; they are best for productivity. Personally I would love a Mac, but they are just too expensive. Windows is "poor man's bread".

+1

How do OS X "Spaces" work better than Ubuntu's multiple desktops?

I greatly prefer (L)ubuntu over both, as it's much more advanced, is *nix-based, has minimising and maximising as well as no dock, and a wide array of super-powerful applications that are super-easy and free to install.

Also, you're kind of making it sound like you think everything Apple touches turns to gold. Is that true?

veggieman001 wrote:

Also, you're kind of making it sound like you think everything Apple touches turns to gold. Is that true?

No it's not, everything that Apple touches turns to Aluminum and glass, get your facts straight. 

Edit: o_O
This reply to your post was posted one hour TO THE SECOND after yours!

Last edited by 16Skittles (2012-08-19 12:53:42)

"Probably" and "things" don't sound so confident. And Kubuntu is nice, but Lubuntu looks nicer IMO and is a whole lot faster on my machine. And it comes with Chromium! 
I also don't really see the need for having a different background for each desktop, but whatever. It's a matter of preference.

jji7skyline wrote:

I don't want to make certain statements in case I'm proved wrong in cases where I'm not entirely sure of the facts. And yes, Lubuntu does come with chromium, but it crashes on every other page load. It also doesn't seem as original or intuitive.

Having different backgrounds on spaces makes it easier to tell which spaces are which, and therefore be better organised. It is also possible to do a two-finger swipe on the magic mouse or 3-finger swipe on the trackpad to switch between spaces which is very useful to me.

I think you said that was possible when I was talking about the weird dream of switching OSes like that on the MBA? With a VM in each space? 

16Skittles wrote:

jji7skyline wrote:

I don't want to make certain statements in case I'm proved wrong in cases where I'm not entirely sure of the facts. And yes, Lubuntu does come with chromium, but it crashes on every other page load. It also doesn't seem as original or intuitive.

Having different backgrounds on spaces makes it easier to tell which spaces are which, and therefore be better organised. It is also possible to do a two-finger swipe on the magic mouse or 3-finger swipe on the trackpad to switch between spaces which is very useful to me.

I think you said that was possible when I was talking about the weird dream of switching OSes like that on the MBA? With a VM in each space? 

Be amazed.

veggieman001 wrote:

soupoftomato wrote:

jji7skyline wrote:

I don't want to make certain statements in case I'm proved wrong in cases where I'm not entirely sure of the facts. And yes, Lubuntu does come with chromium, but it crashes on every other page load. It also doesn't seem as original or intuitive.

Having different backgrounds on spaces makes it easier to tell which spaces are which, and therefore be better organised. It is also possible to do a two-finger swipe on the magic mouse or 3-finger swipe on the trackpad to switch between spaces which is very useful to me.

Chromium isn't even finished yet, though, I think.

Chromium is the in development version of Chrome, so it will never be 'finished'. I've never had any serious issues with Chromium that weren't fixed by simply upgrading or downgrading the browser by a few versions. Chromium is the browser I use every day and it seems pretty stable to me. Perhaps you're having issues with certain webpages you're going to, or issues with your hardware?

I guess so, but I only use three workspaces at max on Lubuntu and I can tell what's on them from a combination of memory, workspace names (based on my intended use for them; main, secondary, background), and the small thumbnails on the taskbar. I also utilise the ability to scroll through them by hovering over the icons and using the mouse's scroll wheel.

Chromium on my Mac works fine. Real fine. On Lubuntu it crashes every minute.

Having a different wallpaper on each just seems better to me. 

jji7skyline wrote:

veggieman001 wrote:

soupoftomato wrote:

Chromium isn't even finished yet, though, I think.

Chromium is the in development version of Chrome, so it will never be 'finished'. I've never had any serious issues with Chromium that weren't fixed by simply upgrading or downgrading the browser by a few versions. Chromium is the browser I use every day and it seems pretty stable to me. Perhaps you're having issues with certain webpages you're going to, or issues with your hardware?

I guess so, but I only use three workspaces at max on Lubuntu and I can tell what's on them from a combination of memory, workspace names (based on my intended use for them; main, secondary, background), and the small thumbnails on the taskbar. I also utilise the ability to scroll through them by hovering over the icons and using the mouse's scroll wheel.

Chromium on my Mac works fine. Real fine. On Lubuntu it crashes every minute.

Having a different wallpaper on each just seems better to me. 

Well, dunno what your issue is. My main issues with Chromium on Lubuntu have been because of the buggy implementation of Flash, which is unfortunate as many sites haven't yet switched to HTML5.

And I really wouldn't enjoy having separate wallpapers; I don't really have a need for it and I have a hard enough time finding one desktop background. 

veggieman001 wrote:

jji7skyline wrote:

jji7skyline wrote:

Be amazed.

Did anyone even see this? 

Just watched it, and it looks pretty cool. I'd rather have Lubuntu as a main installation and then have XP and OS X in VMs, though. 
Also, iTunes sucks. 

But then you wouldn't have the ability to swipe between OSs 

Also, iTunes on Windows is pretty fail, but on Mac it works so well, I wouldn't switch to anything else.

That is amazing, I admit. If only that could be done on a laptop without absolutely murdering the battery life.

jji7skyline wrote:

veggieman001 wrote:

jji7skyline wrote:

But then you wouldn't have the ability to swipe between OSs 

Also, iTunes on Windows is pretty fail, but on Mac it works so well, I wouldn't switch to anything else.

There's key commands for it, and that's good enough for me.

How are they different? I haven't noticed any difference in my experience.

Also on OSX, but swipes are so much easier 

On Mac, there are hotkeys for play/pause track forward/backward as well as playing music in background without the iTunes windows open, as well as integration of the whole music library with iLife and many other Mac applications.

Ah, I can see how that may be cool. I personally don't really like the way iTunes is laid out, am really disappointed it can't play a ton of formats that some of my music library is in (like OGG, WMA, FLAC, various module formats, etc.), is quite slow on my computer) and has little customisation. The only thing I was able to customise in iTunes was the font, by editing a system preferences file. My media player of choice is foobar2000, which is extremely customisable, plays nearly every type of media, supports the APE metadata format (as opposed to ID3), and supports various plugins which add even more features. It also syncs iDevices. Unfortunately, it's Windows only