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#51 2012-08-18 20:37:12

maxskywalker
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Re: MD5 Hashes

TorbyFork234 wrote:

I think this is the appropriate place to ask this: Why do you hash things? I know it's to keep from people seeing the information, but if it is impossible to decode it, than how do you get the message? It completely ruins the point of a message if you can't read it. Anyone mind giving me an explanation?

You then encrypt input or whatever, and compare it to the already-hashed thing.

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#52 2012-08-18 20:45:20

Molybdenum
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Re: MD5 Hashes

ImagineIt wrote:

Would it be possible to make an MD5 hash in scratch somehow? Then you could have an actual login system.

I have a working hash (not MD5) that is very short in scratch.

muppetds wrote:

maxskywalker wrote:

veggieman001 wrote:

BirdByte wrote:

veggieman001 wrote:

BirdByte wrote:

Wow, you really trust in this.

wink

I have a bruteforcer, you know.

I'd like to see you try it.


No, but you can brute-force it.

Is there anything that you can't brute-force?

not really

Actually, there is. One-time pad


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#53 2012-08-18 21:36:04

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Re: MD5 Hashes

Molybdenum wrote:

ImagineIt wrote:

Would it be possible to make an MD5 hash in scratch somehow? Then you could have an actual login system.

I have a working hash (not MD5) that is very short in scratch.

muppetds wrote:

maxskywalker wrote:


Is there anything that you can't brute-force?

not really

Actually, there is. One-time pad

Wouldn't that just take a while?

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#54 2012-08-18 21:43:37

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Re: MD5 Hashes

Molybdenum wrote:

ImagineIt wrote:

Would it be possible to make an MD5 hash in scratch somehow? Then you could have an actual login system.

I have a working hash (not MD5) that is very short in scratch.

muppetds wrote:

maxskywalker wrote:


Is there anything that you can't brute-force?

not really

Actually, there is. One-time pad

one time pad
otp
one true pairing
otp
wow hey

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#55 2012-08-19 04:27:55

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Re: MD5 Hashes

maxskywalker wrote:

Molybdenum wrote:

ImagineIt wrote:

Would it be possible to make an MD5 hash in scratch somehow? Then you could have an actual login system.

I have a working hash (not MD5) that is very short in scratch.

muppetds wrote:

not really

Actually, there is. One-time pad

Wouldn't that just take a while?

It would take... a very, very long time. Probably a few thousand millennia. Moly, can you get over here with you fancy calculator stuffs?  tongue


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#56 2012-08-19 09:45:37

Molybdenum
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Re: MD5 Hashes

BirdByte wrote:

maxskywalker wrote:

Molybdenum wrote:

I have a working hash (not MD5) that is very short in scratch.

Actually, there is. One-time pad

Wouldn't that just take a while?

It would take... a very, very long time. Probably a few thousand millennia. Moly, can you get over here with you fancy calculator stuffs?  tongue

Hi, I'm here!
No, one-time pad CANNOT ever be brute-forced, with good enough random pads.
Ex. I want to send "CHELL" to someone, with my pad being "AHWOE". It encodes to

Code:

 3  8  5 12 12
 1  8 23 15  5
--------------
 4 16  2  1 17

(read the wiki article on how this works)
Or DPBAQ. Of course someone with the pad could get it back to CHELL, but if you don't know the pad and brute-force, you find that
A pad of RAPLE decodes to LOLOL
A pad of QAQZW decodes to MOKAT
etc. (wow I can't believe I did all that)
So all brute-forces will give ALL POSSIBLE letter combinations, because, well, they are all possible.


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#57 2012-08-19 20:57:24

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Re: MD5 Hashes

Does anyone. Know of a text to md5 hash converter?


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#58 2012-08-19 21:03:13

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Re: MD5 Hashes

Mokat wrote:

Does anyone. Know of a text to md5 hash converter?

Wolfram|Alpha works, (type MD5 hash "YOUR STRING HERE").


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#59 2012-08-19 21:03:50

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Re: MD5 Hashes

Mokat wrote:

Does anyone. Know of a text to md5 hash converter?

You can just use the md5() function in PHP. Alternately, here.


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#60 2012-08-19 21:47:27

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Re: MD5 Hashes

ImagineIt wrote:

Would it be possible to make an MD5 hash in scratch somehow? Then you could have an actual login system.

I read this and thought, "hey this might be fun to make"

...but then I read this and my brain exploded


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#61 2012-08-19 21:50:01

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Re: MD5 Hashes

technoguyx wrote:

ImagineIt wrote:

Would it be possible to make an MD5 hash in scratch somehow? Then you could have an actual login system.

I read this and thought, "hey this might be fun to make"

...but then I read this and my brain exploded

Sci apparently did it, though.


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#62 2012-08-21 08:38:23

Molybdenum
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Re: MD5 Hashes

technoguyx wrote:

ImagineIt wrote:

Would it be possible to make an MD5 hash in scratch somehow? Then you could have an actual login system.

I read this and thought, "hey this might be fun to make"

...but then I read this and my brain exploded

Same thing here. (Bump)

Last edited by Molybdenum (2012-08-21 08:38:33)


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#63 2012-09-01 10:03:47

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Re: MD5 Hashes

i like pie=528fbfb3293b1e0be03766af476e0117


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#64 2012-09-01 10:18:36

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Re: MD5 Hashes

MD5 hash of "MD5 hash of"=
a624 fa2b 8bf6 b70e 417d 710c 0d0e 1461


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