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#1 2012-08-14 13:17:08
Anti spam suggestion
It seems like Scratch Mods do not want to put captia into scratch because they they think it would be hard for some players.
I have another idea.
A question generator!
Like when you sign up or add a reply to a post, it asks you a question, like
Today is Monday. What day was it yesterday?
I hope this will prevent spam by 50 percent or more!
The Scratch Team (and fellow scratchers!) is/are so nice!!!
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#3 2012-08-14 13:28:28
- Molybdenum
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Re: Anti spam suggestion
BirdByte wrote:
Spambots certainly won't be able to answer these questions.
Yes. THese are a lot harder that "1 + 2 = [ ]". The only problem I can thiknk of is the limited questions per format. Ex. The example only has 14; Today is [insert a day), what day is [today or tommorow)? But with more types, this might work.
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#5 2012-08-16 11:15:48
- humhumgames
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Re: Anti spam suggestion
Eventually. But we could stop them temporarily.
You know when you sign up on a new forum or upload on tinypic or register for something like Club Penguin, you get a word in wavy letters and you have to type it. Or it gives you a question like Which is the lowest number? 1, 9, 6, or 12? Stuff like that. That would be so good to have, maybe in 2.0.
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#6 2012-08-16 12:57:03
- scimonster
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Re: Anti spam suggestion
humhumgames wrote:
Eventually. But we could stop them temporarily.
You know when you sign up on a new forum or upload on tinypic or register for something like Club Penguin, you get a word in wavy letters and you have to type it. Or it gives you a question like Which is the lowest number? 1, 9, 6, or 12? Stuff like that. That would be so good to have, maybe in 2.0.
The distorted word is a classic CAPTCHA.
All of these are types of CAPTCHAs - Creatively Annoying Program To Challenge Human Analysis (in actuality - Completely Automated Public Turing test to tell Computers and Humans Apart).
I suppose one like that would hardly hurt. And i doubt it's worth the spammers' time to edit the bots to compensate for that.
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#8 2012-08-16 13:08:31
- Firedrake969
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Re: Anti spam suggestion
Wes64 wrote:
I hate CAPTCHAs but I hate spam more. Support.
Not the wavy words captcha. Some easy one. Would this eliminate the 60 second rule?
Click the sign.
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#9 2012-08-16 13:31:30
- funelephant
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Re: Anti spam suggestion
Maybe just for new scratchers.
nicki begs to differ
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#10 2012-08-16 13:53:46
- Molybdenum
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Re: Anti spam suggestion
funelephant wrote:
Maybe just for new scratchers.
Maybe just for posts by a new scratcher with a link (with [url]tags or not)?
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#11 2012-08-17 05:08:13
Re: Anti spam suggestion
perhaps just signing up?
and change the question often too.
more examples:
what's the third letter in "scratch"?
[picture of square or other shape] is this a triangle, square, circle, or star?
I have three blocks. you give me two more. I throw away one. how many do I have left?
I'm pretty sure we can all contribute simple questions like this.
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#12 2012-08-17 11:01:06
- humhumgames
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Re: Anti spam suggestion
Maybe make the last one simpler. I have three blocks. You give me two more. How many do I have left?
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#13 2012-08-17 17:23:35
- ErnieParke
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Re: Anti spam suggestion
Molybdenum wrote:
BirdByte wrote:
Spambots certainly won't be able to answer these questions.
Yes. THese are a lot harder that "1 + 2 = [ ]". The only problem I can thiknk of is the limited questions per format. Ex. The example only has 14; Today is [insert a day), what day is [today or tommorow)? But with more types, this might work.
You forgot about tomorrow, so there actually is 21 different forms of this question.
Anyway, if this is implemented, I think that the Scratch Team should also add a feature where you can change the question. For example, if a question involves shapes and colors, but the person signing up for scratch is color blind, how will he/she answer the question? I can't think of another situation where this would be needed, but it would be nice.
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#14 2012-08-17 17:26:03
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Re: Anti spam suggestion
Good idea! That's what most websites have. Like a next question button. And there's a sound test too like 'Enter the word you hear.' Then you hear the word 'The.' or something, but let's not go into that.
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#15 2012-08-17 17:41:48
- Molybdenum
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Re: Anti spam suggestion
ErnieParke wrote:
Molybdenum wrote:
BirdByte wrote:
Spambots certainly won't be able to answer these questions.
Yes. THese are a lot harder that "1 + 2 = [ ]". The only problem I can thiknk of is the limited questions per format. Ex. The example only has 14; Today is [insert a day), what day is [today or tommorow)? But with more types, this might work.
You forgot about tomorrow, so there actually is 21 different forms of this question.
Um, no. Re-read my post. And I meant yesterday for today.
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#16 2012-08-17 18:08:57
- ErnieParke
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Re: Anti spam suggestion
Molybdenum wrote:
ErnieParke wrote:
Molybdenum wrote:
Yes. THese are a lot harder that "1 + 2 = [ ]". The only problem I can thiknk of is the limited questions per format. Ex. The example only has 14; Today is [insert a day), what day is [today or tommorow)? But with more types, this might work.You forgot about tomorrow, so there actually is 21 different forms of this question.
Um, no. Re-read my post. And I meant yesterday for today.
I keep on getting things mixed up. 
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#17 2012-08-17 18:09:48
- Molybdenum
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Re: Anti spam suggestion
ErnieParke wrote:
Molybdenum wrote:
ErnieParke wrote:
You forgot about tomorrow, so there actually is 21 different forms of this question.
Um, no. Re-read my post. And I meant yesterday for today.
I keep on getting things mixed up.
Well, its okay.
Also, I had another idea for spam once.
Me! wrote:
Anyway, I had a really random idea once. Why not use a bayesian classifier to classify spam? Here's some info: Here.
(remove if nessarcary (however you spell that))
However, they might not work if the messages are too short.
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#18 2012-08-17 19:09:45
Re: Anti spam suggestion
ErnieParke wrote:
Molybdenum wrote:
BirdByte wrote:
Spambots certainly won't be able to answer these questions.
Yes. THese are a lot harder that "1 + 2 = [ ]". The only problem I can thiknk of is the limited questions per format. Ex. The example only has 14; Today is [insert a day), what day is [today or tommorow)? But with more types, this might work.
You forgot about tomorrow, so there actually is 21 different forms of this question.
Anyway, if this is implemented, I think that the Scratch Team should also add a feature where you can change the question. For example, if a question involves shapes and colors, but the person signing up for scratch is color blind, how will he/she answer the question? I can't think of another situation where this would be needed, but it would be nice.
like captcha, you should be able to request for a new question
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