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oh
wait what I was saying is that they might do just about nothing to any of the sites, but in theory could use it to take down any site they wanted to, like anti-government sites.

777w wrote:

jukyter wrote:

But that means no not-yet-popular sites are allowed to grow. This freezes us. It's like someone saying people aren't allowed to reinvent the wheel.

"reinvent the wheel" isnt the best phrase imo, but i agree with you otherwise

I love that phrase but whatever.

zbugni wrote:

oh
wait what I was saying is that they might do just about nothing to any of the sites, but in theory could use it to take down any site they wanted to, like anti-government sites.

That doesn't fit in with what SOPA is trying to do. It's not a revolution queller, it's a harmless fansite killer.
Besides, revolutions can sometimes be for the best and giving any government the power to quench free will ends badly.

It is debatable whether the full use of the bill would ever be carried out. Still, I strongly oppose it for the following reasons:

Copyright Infringement is Already Illegal, and Already Abused
Copyright Infringement is illegal, and the Digital Millennium Copyright Act of 1998 made it easy to abuse.  All that a company needs to do is issue a DMCA Takedown Notice to a web site (like the whole NAMCO vs Scratch Pac-Man issue) and regardless of whether it actually infringes, the web site will usually take down the content to avoid a lawsuit. Now imagine if they could issue a takedown notice and take the entire site offline.

They Don't Need new Powers to Shut Down Web Sites
Shortly after the SOPA/PIPA debate, New Zealand sent in a Special Ops team that busted down doors and broke in with helicopters and guns into Kim Dotcom's mansion. With a raid like that, you might think of Kim Dotcom as some mad gunman, or perhaps they thought they were going after John Wayne. Instead, Kim Dotcom was the creator of the popular file sharing web site Megaupload. Then his site was taken down, the data confiscated as evidence (which also removed the legitimate files from being accessible to their owners) and all of the money he made on the site's advertising to be frozen as "stolen property" - meaning he can't pay his own lawyers. This is already oppressive, and it isn't needed to have another law.

Isn't sopa already quite dead?

zbugni wrote:

jukyter wrote:

That doesn't fit in with what SOPA is trying to do. It's not a revolution queller, it's a harmless fansite killer.
Besides, revolutions can sometimes be for the best and giving any government the power to quench free will ends badly.

a fansite/youtube/minecraft killer is what everyone was afraid of, but it probably wouldn't have been.
they probably would have cracked down on copyrights more but not to that degree.
it's just the terms are so broad that they could have shut down just about any site they wanted to.

They wouldn't have killed Minecraft. I don't know why you keep going on about that. It doesn't infringe on any copyrights.
And uh no they could only shut down sites using copyrighted materiel. And seeing as it could've been used to shut down fansites, some authors/companies would've used it.