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soupoftomato wrote:

If you do it, it should be treated like a demo. If you enjoy it, pay to give the creator money later.

+1 but then you run into problems if it's like 1,000 dollars or something.

16Skittles wrote:

adriangl wrote:

Technically, since The Pirate Bay's servers are in Sweden, where there are no piracy laws, it's "legal". I used to pirate, though I don't anymore. Really, it's not like you'll get arrested for going on TPB and getting something that you want.

I love their legal responses.

The Pirate Bay wrote:

As you may or may not be aware, Sweden is not a state in the United States
of America. Sweden is a country in northern Europe.
Unless you figured it out by now, US law does not apply here.
For your information, no Swedish law is being violated.

Haha. http://thepiratebay.se/legal

Please don't sue us right now, our lawyer is passed out in an alley from
too much moonshine, so please atleast wait until he's found and doesn't
have a huge hangover...

You're free to demand anything you want. So are we. We demand that you
cease and desist sending letters like this, since they're frivolous and
meaningless. Where should I send the bill for the consumed diskspace and
bandwidth?

Here's what they said to Apple:
Awh, come on, I've heard the expression "a few bad apples", but this is
just ridiculous.

There are SOOOOOO many funnier ones there 

sonicfan12p wrote:

nama wrote:

sonicfan12p wrote:

Certainly a dillema, but still. If they get mad for you doing the right thing, then fine. They have no right to be mad, they were breaking the law, but if you keep quiet and don't try and get him to stop, you are breaking the law by affiliation. Your choice.

Uh they absolutely have a right to be mad, would you be mad if someone you thought was a friend tried to put you in jail?

They were still trying to break the law, and got caught. No right to be mad at you for doing the right thing, end of story.

I'd just talk to your parents about it, and together decide what the right thing to do is.

sonicfan12p wrote:

nama wrote:

sonicfan12p wrote:

Certainly a dillema, but still. If they get mad for you doing the right thing, then fine. They have no right to be mad, they were breaking the law, but if you keep quiet and don't try and get him to stop, you are breaking the law by affiliation. Your choice.

Uh they absolutely have a right to be mad, would you be mad if someone you thought was a friend tried to put you in jail?

They were still trying to break the law, and got caught. No right to be mad at you for doing the right thing, end of story.

What, so someone can't be mad about going to jail?
That makes no sense. Just because they broke the law doesn't mean they can't be upset.

soupoftomato wrote:

ErnieParke wrote:

elfin8er wrote:

Yes, BUT what if those 40% were trying out Marks music. 20% decided they liked it, and decided to buy his other albums. Let's say Mark has 6 Albums. Now, I'm not that good at math, but that means that Mark just made an extra 1,200,000. Now obviously the full 40,000 people aren't going to buy all of his albums, but let's say on average, each person then goes and buys an Album from him. That's still 200,000 dollars that he wouldn't have gotten if those people wouldn't have pirated to begin with.

Taking the albums into account, atleast $600,000 would have been pirated, and that is if the 2nd to 6th albums were less popular than the 1st. Let's say Mark used 10% of his money on taking care of his very hungry family for a couple of months. Then, 20% goes into advertising. 30% goes into the making of the CD's. 20% goes into employees, and 20% is taken away in various taxes. That leaves him absolutely no money to be able to buy or rent a $600,000 skyscraper which would have been the headquarters for his music empire.

It doesn't matter how much he "still gets", because if piracy was allowed then everyone would do it and that amount he "still gets" is gone. Essentially, encouraging piracy causes more people to do it if you say "oh they still have all that other money, don't worry" and therefore making profit for the artistic creators smaller and smaller.

So no one read this?

soupoftomato wrote:

ErnieParke wrote:

elfin8er wrote:

Yes, BUT what if those 40% were trying out Marks music. 20% decided they liked it, and decided to buy his other albums. Let's say Mark has 6 Albums. Now, I'm not that good at math, but that means that Mark just made an extra 1,200,000. Now obviously the full 40,000 people aren't going to buy all of his albums, but let's say on average, each person then goes and buys an Album from him. That's still 200,000 dollars that he wouldn't have gotten if those people wouldn't have pirated to begin with.

Taking the albums into account, atleast $600,000 would have been pirated, and that is if the 2nd to 6th albums were less popular than the 1st. Let's say Mark used 10% of his money on taking care of his very hungry family for a couple of months. Then, 20% goes into advertising. 30% goes into the making of the CD's. 20% goes into employees, and 20% is taken away in various taxes. That leaves him absolutely no money to be able to buy or rent a $600,000 skyscraper which would have been the headquarters for his music empire.

It doesn't matter how much he "still gets", because if piracy was allowed then everyone would do it and that amount he "still gets" is gone. Essentially, encouraging piracy causes more people to do it if you say "oh they still have all that other money, don't worry" and therefore making profit for the artistic creators smaller and smaller.

Which is what I was trying to point out.

jukyter wrote:

Uh no your friend has no right to be mad at you he was breaking the law and as we all know the law is the only right thing!!! It does not matter that you will no longer have friends because at least you are obeying the law and the law is right and the law is just!!!

I'd personally rather have integrity than friends, and to have that integrity it means obey the law, unless the law goes against God's law, ect. For the rest of you, the law is what you should obey and uphold, regardless of consequence. No one said it would be easy!

elfin8er wrote:

sonicfan12p wrote:

jukyter wrote:

Uh no your friend has no right to be mad at you he was breaking the law and as we all know the law is the only right thing!!! It does not matter that you will no longer have friends because at least you are obeying the law and the law is right and the law is just!!!

I'd personally rather have integrity than friends, and to have that integrity it means obey the law, unless the law goes against God's law, ect. For the rest of you, the law is what you should obey and uphold, regardless of consequence. No one said it would be easy!

+1

What about the states where there are such obscure laws that still exist, but just aren't being dealt with? Things like how men with mustaches can't kiss women on the lips in public.

SeptimusHeap wrote:

jukyter wrote:

Uh no your friend has no right to be mad at you he was breaking the law and as we all know the law is the only right thing!!! It does not matter that you will no longer have friends because at least you are obeying the law and the law is right and the law is just!!!

Ever heard of loyalty?

That's almost as bad as those nazi kids that turned their parents in.

Yeah.
I'm absolutely sure he wasn't being sarcastic.

Like, how I'm never sarcastic.

ProgrammingFreak wrote:

BLU_Spy wrote:

veggieman001 wrote:

My main issue with that is that the sound is terrible. The only way to get anything decent sounding with YouTube is to download the HD MP4 video, transcode it to FLAC with VLC, made edits in Audacity, and then encode as a 320kbps CBR or V0 VBR MP3. I mean, seriously.

Uh... youtube-mp3 has an awesome quality.

I think he's talking about mp3s in general.

I use youtube-mp3.org for instrumental's of songs for my parodies. But I don't get actual songs like that.

I'm talking about youtube-mp3. mp3s are alright, best if they're at least V0 or I guess 256kbps CBR.

veggieman001 wrote:

ProgrammingFreak wrote:

BLU_Spy wrote:

Uh... youtube-mp3 has an awesome quality.

I think he's talking about mp3s in general.

I use youtube-mp3.org for instrumental's of songs for my parodies. But I don't get actual songs like that.

I'm talking about youtube-mp3. mp3s are alright, best if they're at least V0 or I guess 256kbps CBR.

I use a plugin called Video2mp3 that allows me to download the audio straight from videos on Youtube. It has great quality, better than most songs on The Pirate Bay.

sonicfan12p wrote:

jukyter wrote:

Uh no your friend has no right to be mad at you he was breaking the law and as we all know the law is the only right thing!!! It does not matter that you will no longer have friends because at least you are obeying the law and the law is right and the law is just!!!

I'd personally rather have integrity than friends, and to have that integrity it means obey the law, unless the law goes against God's law, ect. For the rest of you, the law is what you should obey and uphold, regardless of consequence. No one said it would be easy!

I've seen you active in two threads that I follow recently, and two times you have brought your religion into it for no apparent reason.
I hate having other people, meaning the people who right the laws, set my morals for me. Just because it is the law does not mean that I must support it, and does not mean that I must turn someone in "on a matter of integrity." I wouldn't turn in a runaway slave if I found them hiding on my property just because the law said I had to.