Scratch

Well, I can't seem to reproduce the bug..    Though of course, I downloaded the package and installed it manually. Would that make a difference?

Argh, that looks nasty. It reminds me of when I was experimenting with my own Morphic engine and working with windows. 

Does Squeak have any control over the window itself, or just the viewing frame inside the window?

Magnie wrote:

Lightnin wrote:

Magnie wrote:

Well, I can't seem to reproduce the bug..    Though of course, I downloaded the package and installed it manually. Would that make a difference?

Thanks for trying!  You're on a 64 bit Ubuntu 12.04, right? Version 1.4.0.6~dfsg1 of the Scratch package?

64 Bit Ubuntu 12.04 (Precise) with this package: scratch_1.4.0.1-0ubuntu5_i386.deb (Still have it in my Downloads folder  ). Hope that helps. 

Ah, that's ye olde package - outdated! (Although, on this platform, it actually works a little better. But it's problematic for many users because you have to force the install.)

Can you try it with the newer package, from the repositories?
http://ubuntu.media.mit.edu/ubuntu//poo … .1_all.deb

Hardmath123 wrote:

Argh, that looks nasty. It reminds me of when I was experimenting with my own Morphic engine and working with windows. 

Does Squeak have any control over the window itself, or just the viewing frame inside the window?

It looks nasty cause it is!    I'd love to see it squashed.
I'm not much of a squeaker at all, but from what I understand you can control window size / handle resize events from within squeak programs.

Last edited by Lightnin (2012-07-20 11:31:08)

Jackieee wrote:

I'm not able to reproduce this on Lubuntu 12.04 with Scratch 1.4.0.6~dfsg1-1~ubuntu12.04.1. The window does flash black while I'm resizing it, but works fine once I let go.

Thanks for trying! We've just recently isolated the problem to Ubuntu's 3d (unity) system. When running in 2d mode, as I suspect Lubuntu does by default, the bug doesn't happen. So installing on a 64 bit system doesn't appear to be a causal factor - we've since seen it happen on 32 bit installations of Ubuntu.

If you find out more about this bug, please comment here!

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/scratch/+bug/1028562

confirmed...

edit:
already noticed that you cannot even open files 
*apt-uninstalling and downloading good old manual deb file*

Last edited by roijac (2012-07-26 14:32:44)

I think this belongs in  bugs and glitches 

it works fine for me however when i maximise the window it just goes black

Removing -xshm from the squeak VM launch options is a workaround that have been found here:

https://lists.launchpad.net/scratch/msg00359.html
or
http://forum.world.st/Shrinking-windows-when-Scratch-is-run-on-4-4-7-2357-VM-Ubuntu-12-04-64bit-td4633392.html

I did this by editing the file /usr/bin/scratch and removing -xshm from the line:
VMOPTIONS="-encoding UTF-8 -vm-display-x11 -xshm -plugins /usr/lib/scratch/plugins/:$SQ_DIR/"
(I have Scratch installed from repositories)

Apperently this bug is due to some issue between X and Compiz, so if you do not use Unity 3D then you don't see this bug.

Just thought I would spread the knowledge, making it easier to find for the next seeker.

Regards
SanGis

Not just 64bit either... Shrinking and strobing just like the video on a 32bit system. I'll try 2d mode, brb

edit: No shrinking under 2d. Huh. I'll try the workaround.

eddetit: grr permissions problem

Last edited by scratchisthebest (2012-10-25 18:22:13)

There's a partial fix/workaround over on http://scratch.mit.edu/forums/viewtopic … 9#p1549099