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Meapinator101 wrote:

scratch basically shut down on me. I can't work on any projects which is a bummer because I was just about to release a project I was thinking might get curated.

thats a bummer

What is going on?  Why is everybody leaving?

Oh.  Well, we lost a couple of members.

Anyway, I will start my part as soon as I get back from vacation in 3 days.

Borrego6165 wrote:

Please read the whole thing as there are a few points! Sorry for the life story. 

I'm a bit confused. You have over a 100 pages, loads of members plus a fancy website but I haven't seen your collab make much. Pretty much any Eternity product has seemed to come from XenoK, and I'm wondering what the collaboration actually gets up to other than looking for errors, advertising or doing another minor job.

Yes you have a description on your home page, but that's general management talk and not anything real. Oh, and do you really need a branding officer? What does the finance department do? Do they count love-its?

I'm not saying this to be horrible as I'm in quite a happy mood today, I'm just overwhelmed at how big the "company" is and how little from the whole group is coming out. You should be making huge projects and hiring temporary staff to work on each not having a single person make little tutorial projects. Because the company seems to be trying to do everything but what it has done is not really that clear, new comers will be left confused and you'll lose business.

I have no idea if my advice will help as I've never been good with running my own collaborations (as you might have guessed) but perhaps you need to get your branding officer (if they're not too busy) to re-brand the company as perhaps a project designer because that's all you can really do on scratch, it's hard to focus on much else. Maybe a project designer which keeps it's website and still provides it's current services.

It's better to do one thing great than loads of things average, like how I focused on advertising and got over 250 projects advertised! You've got that many members and you're famous enough to easily make huge and epic projects instead of- as I said before- having only one or two people actually making anything.

Without any goals, there will be less motivation because there will be nothing to aim for. At the moment this is the largest company on scratch, but if you took my advice it maybe smaller, but it would be the greatest collaboration on scratch.

I'd love to hear your comments, and if you can number them based on which paragraph(s) they are about. It's just that your site only has four projects.

I agree with you in a way. That is why I considered leaving. I think we should really ramp up production. Here is my reasoning:

ETERNITY INC : REVOLUTIONIZING ENTERTAINMENT

What have we done other than mesh that really Revolutionized Entertainment....not a lot.  Lets keep up our promise and really make a breakthrough project.

implementing a better stylesheet, and an improved navigation.

XenoK wrote:

could non-members please refrain from posting here, as it has proven in the past to create more drama, and cause fights, in which we really don't need on this thread? thanks!

clearly if you don't want to listen to the needs of your target audience, scratchers, then you're not going understand their needs. I've given you some good points which I hope you read fully, as you need to actually make something. it's like running the largest restaurant in the world and not making any meals- instead sending your waiters around and around refilling drinks (a.k.a. you making time consuming websites and threads) and taking orders (like you saying you make all these animations, stories and games ect) and because of the large mess hiring more chefs who don't have anything to cook! (Like your thread taking on so many members and especially chiefs, they should be grafting to get some work done).

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Paddle2See wrote:

Borrego6165 wrote:

XenoK wrote:

could non-members please refrain from posting here, as it has proven in the past to create more drama, and cause fights, in which we really don't need on this thread? thanks!

clearly if you don't want to listen to the needs of your target audience, scratchers, then you're not going understand their needs. I've given you some good points which I hope you read fully, as you need to actually make something. it's like running the largest restaurant in the world and not making any meals- instead sending your waiters around and around refilling drinks (a.k.a. you making time consuming websites and threads) and taking orders (like you saying you make all these animations, stories and games ect) and because of the large mess hiring more chefs who don't have anything to cook! (Like your thread taking on so many members and especially chiefs, they should be grafting to get some work done).

Actually, they don't have to produce anything.  They are not receiving any compensation for their efforts and they have made no contracts to produce anything (that I am aware of).  Perhaps they are enjoying the collaboration and teamwork experience and feel that the skills and fun they are getting from the experience are reward enough.

Well said Paddle, well said. (And no, I don't think we have a contract.)

woah did someone report it? i was giving you feedback on your thread which Meapinator101 also agreed that some points were good ones and you reported it? if you have a problem tell me- i'm not being intrusive i'm just offering my opinion. everyone thinks I'm the Kaj of collaborations.

by the way if you are looking for your next project it could be a spyro game, I'll just have to replace the name on the BETA introduction and it could be turned into something great. Spyro

XenoK wrote:

Borrego6165 wrote:

woah did someone report it? i was giving you feedback on your thread which Meapinator101 also agreed that some points were good ones and you reported it? if you have a problem tell me- i'm not being intrusive i'm just offering my opinion. everyone thinks I'm the Kaj of collaborations.

by the way if you are looking for your next project it could be a spyro game, I'll just have to replace the name on the BETA introduction and it could be turned into something great. Spyro

we are already working on 2 projects!!!

awh! i suppose i'd best not think about spyro anyway, i'll have to finish my G:4000 project before i get banned by someone. i'll go before someone reports this and they call it spam or whatever

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XenoK wrote:

Borrego6165 wrote:

XenoK wrote:

we are already working on 2 projects!!!

awh! i suppose i'd best not think about spyro anyway, i'll have to finish my G:4000 project before i get banned by someone. i'll go before someone reports this and they call it spam or whatever

in case you didn't know, all of our scratch collaborative work, is on a hidden forum, only accessible to users with certain priveleges.  Souo you haven't exactly seen our whole conversation.  Reason: we don't want just anyone to know what we're making next.

really i knew you were making how to enable mesh 1 month before it came out 

XenoK wrote:

berberberber wrote:

What is going on?  Why is everybody leaving?

meap isnt leaving.  ilackoriginality is leaving scratch, not eternity.  and Yoshiboy didn't take the time to read what we were doing.

What?! Yes I did! I read the whole thing!