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samtwheels wrote:

soupoftomato wrote:

And the changes to that system aren't particularly great. You can now get faster levels but with equally menial tasks. YAY SMELTING STONE! Besides, smelting doesn't provide enough XP in the balance anyway. It should give more than plain mining an already refined resource because it takes mining + coal. Unless some serious balancing has happened since I used the snapshot (at the time), enchanting is still completely wack.

It's not like you lose the XP from mining the coal, so I think it balances out.

The other things to cook with?

Lava, wood, etc.

Engaging a zombie pigman in a fight? Seemed like a good idea at the time.

"Haha! I have done it! Look at this gold! Better get back to the overworld now"

*Sprint sprint sprint*

*WHAM*

"Huh?"

*Turns around*

*Shrug*

"This shouldn't take long"

*Wham slash WHAM*

"I thought the first one was alone! Better hurr- oh joy, here comes another"

*Gets to Nether Portal*

"I can hit him enough to delay him while the portal activates!"

*Hack slash wham*

"No! I got knocked out of the por-"

"WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA-"

*Splash*

*Ssss*

Well, it sounded dumb, so I'll put into English.

I went to the Nether in normal mode. (Sort of a big deal for me.. I typically do peaceful) I only saw zombie pigmen. Not even a ghast.    But since I saw one that was ALONE, I thought I could take him out. So I fought and killed it. No rare drops, like I had hoped for. I sprinted back to my nether portal... just in case. I got hit by something! I turned around.. there was another zombie pigman. I was slightly worried now. I killed him. Just as I was about to start walking back to the portal, another zombie pigman came down from a cliff. I went into my portal, hoping to delay him while the portal activated. But he knocked me out of the portal, right off an insanely high cliff, and right into the vast ocean of lava that is the nether.

Goodbye, enchanted iron sword! I will miss your fire aspects and your title of "bane of arthropods".

werdna123 wrote:

soupoftomato wrote:

I feel like most of the stuff has been a downgrade from the older versions.

The game just feels cluttered now. Like throwing in whatever they think of and causing major annoyances.

Hunger hasn't done anything. Hunger MIGHT have made sense if animals still respawned. Now you have to farm exceedingly slow to grow animals that don't provide enough food to warrant it. (I realize they grow faster than a Minecraft day but honestly it's a video game) I have to grow some sort of wheat farm to safely do the part of the game that I enjoy (mining and upgrading my house). I used to do farms as an afterthought to allow me safety in fighting but with how slow health replenishing is even with full hunger that's moot.
Food was too easy to get in the old versions, as you walked around you could just go "Oh I'm injured, *kills pig*, that's better" but now you feel more hesitant about killing animals so you can breed them. IMO, not being able to stack provided the balance at the time. And I've always thought animal farms would be fun and they are. I don't find clicking to things to make hearts then waiting 5 minutes fun but whatever. And also hunger adds a lot to server games like the hunger games and pvp. And the old eating system was annoying in PVP, you almost kill them and they instantly eat a load of food and do a complete regen. Eating was more strategic back then.  You have to make sure to eat just enough but not was it all.

And the experience system was and still is extremely screwed up. You want the enchanting to be like gambling? That's fine. Just don't make getting to level 50 one of the most menial tasks I've ever accomplished if you do. Fighting mobs actively is fun, but you don't get higher levels that way. No, you MOB FARM. Oh the joy of having my character sit motionless for an hour then clicking the same spot 500 times. And even then, after wasting an hour that I could have been more productive in-game, I have to risk the levels on a potentially bad enchantment.
But you DO get higher levels by fighting mobs. And anyway, it's improving. In 1.3 you only need to get to 30 and there are more ways to get experience.
Yeah, technically you are fighting mobs. But the only effective way to not waste your life getting high levels was cheat or mob farm
And the changes to that system aren't particularly great. You can now get faster levels but with equally menial tasks. YAY SMELTING STONE! Besides, smelting doesn't provide enough XP in the balance anyway. It should give more than plain mining an already refined resource because it takes mining + coal. Unless some serious balancing has happened since I used the snapshot (at the time), enchanting is still completely wack.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought it was only ore smelting?I'm pretty sure it's anything that will go through a change when smelting provides XP
I have more but this is enough for now and I lazy.

The BBCode is getting insane. D:

Last edited by soupoftomato (2012-07-26 10:43:05)

poopo wrote:

Cozyhut3 wrote:

Well, it sounded dumb, so I'll put into English.

I went to the Nether in normal mode. (Sort of a big deal for me.. I typically do peaceful) I only saw zombie pigmen. Not even a ghast.    But since I saw one that was ALONE, I thought I could take him out. So I fought and killed it. No rare drops, like I had hoped for. I sprinted back to my nether portal... just in case. I got hit by something! I turned around.. there was another zombie pigman. I was slightly worried now. I killed him. Just as I was about to start walking back to the portal, another zombie pigman came down from a cliff. I went into my portal, hoping to delay him while the portal activated. But he knocked me out of the portal, right off an insanely high cliff, and right into the vast ocean of lava that is the nether.

Goodbye, enchanted iron sword! I will miss your fire aspects and your title of "bane of arthropods".

1. I suggest you play on easy
2. Don't take a fire aspect sword to the nether because it is useless
3. You should either close of your portal room or not hit piggies. XD

Playing in easy doesnt let you keep your items when you die 
I play in Peaceful too (I have the xbox version)


If anyone else plays on the xbox, I found a couple of good seed codes-

404 [tested] - Spawns you on a gravel beach. One block by the water starts an earthquake and a massive hole opens up in the ground. A waterfall is pouring down the hole, but DONT JUMP IN JUST YET. You'll have a hard time getting up again, you would either have to suicide or swim up the waterfall. Instead, collect some wood and make a bunch of ladders, then start drilling into the ground, placing ladders as you go. For the last couple bricks, stay on the ladder to make sure your not landing on lava. Finish off the ladder and explore! The cave system has TONS of diamonds, gold lapis lazuli and redstone!! There is also iron and coal EVERYWHERE! There is a bunch of waterfalls,  lava pools and lava flows. Near the main waterfall you can make an obsidian machine with 2 pistons to close off the flows on either side. Mine the obsidian then open. Close it again and repeat.

gargamel [tested]- Spawns you either in a dark cave or the valley. If it spawns you in the cave, take some time to get out, it's worth it. The valley is AWESOME, it has a bunch of floating mountains, ore caves and waterfalls.

i dont care - Supposedly spawns you in a jungle/mushroom world.

pickaxe heaven - Floating jungle mountains.

dead mau5 - Islands of a bunch of different biomes.

Cozyhut3 wrote:

poopo wrote:

Cozyhut3 wrote:

Well, it sounded dumb, so I'll put into English.

I went to the Nether in normal mode. (Sort of a big deal for me.. I typically do peaceful) I only saw zombie pigmen. Not even a ghast.    But since I saw one that was ALONE, I thought I could take him out. So I fought and killed it. No rare drops, like I had hoped for. I sprinted back to my nether portal... just in case. I got hit by something! I turned around.. there was another zombie pigman. I was slightly worried now. I killed him. Just as I was about to start walking back to the portal, another zombie pigman came down from a cliff. I went into my portal, hoping to delay him while the portal activated. But he knocked me out of the portal, right off an insanely high cliff, and right into the vast ocean of lava that is the nether.

Goodbye, enchanted iron sword! I will miss your fire aspects and your title of "bane of arthropods".

1. I suggest you play on easy
2. Don't take a fire aspect sword to the nether because it is useless
3. You should either close of your portal room or not hit piggies. XD

Can those tall dudes who love staring contests spawn on easy? :B

Yeah, just don't look at them. XD Or you can wear a pumpkin and they won't attack.

Cozyhut3 wrote:

poopo wrote:

Cozyhut3 wrote:

Well, it sounded dumb, so I'll put into English.

I went to the Nether in normal mode. (Sort of a big deal for me.. I typically do peaceful) I only saw zombie pigmen. Not even a ghast.    But since I saw one that was ALONE, I thought I could take him out. So I fought and killed it. No rare drops, like I had hoped for. I sprinted back to my nether portal... just in case. I got hit by something! I turned around.. there was another zombie pigman. I was slightly worried now. I killed him. Just as I was about to start walking back to the portal, another zombie pigman came down from a cliff. I went into my portal, hoping to delay him while the portal activated. But he knocked me out of the portal, right off an insanely high cliff, and right into the vast ocean of lava that is the nether.

Goodbye, enchanted iron sword! I will miss your fire aspects and your title of "bane of arthropods".

1. I suggest you play on easy
2. Don't take a fire aspect sword to the nether because it is useless
3. You should either close of your portal room or not hit piggies. XD

Can those tall dudes who love staring contests spawn on easy? :B

Endermen or skeletons?

werdna123 wrote:

wolvesstar97 wrote:

Cozyhut3 wrote:

Can those tall dudes who love staring contests spawn on easy? :B

Endermen or skeletons?

Which is taller? Endermen.
Which stare at you if you stare at them? Endermen.

I think it's kind of obvious.

Skeletons can stare at you..

Wow, the new pre-release adds nothing. They just took the last pre-release and slapped the name "1.3Pre" on it. 

slapperbob wrote:

Wow, the new pre-release adds nothing. They just took the last pre-release and slapped the name "1.3Pre" on it. 

Tripwires? Editable books? Rotatable logs?

I just realized that in 1.3, ice is unnecessary to get water in the nether. You can use dispensers to pour out water. I'm about to test this.

EDIT: Never mind, it doesn't work.

Last edited by samtwheels (2012-07-26 22:48:03)

spongebob123 wrote:

OMG MAN I'M ONLY KEEPING THE FREAKING MELODY GOODNESS ME

gosh golly jeepers!!

soupoftomato wrote:

werdna123 wrote:

soupoftomato wrote:

I feel like most of the stuff has been a downgrade from the older versions.

The game just feels cluttered now. Like throwing in whatever they think of and causing major annoyances.

Hunger hasn't done anything. Hunger MIGHT have made sense if animals still respawned. Now you have to farm exceedingly slow to grow animals that don't provide enough food to warrant it. (I realize they grow faster than a Minecraft day but honestly it's a video game) I have to grow some sort of wheat farm to safely do the part of the game that I enjoy (mining and upgrading my house). I used to do farms as an afterthought to allow me safety in fighting but with how slow health replenishing is even with full hunger that's moot.
Food was too easy to get in the old versions, as you walked around you could just go "Oh I'm injured, *kills pig*, that's better" but now you feel more hesitant about killing animals so you can breed them. IMO, not being able to stack provided the balance at the time. Not really, since you could just go kill a pig whenever you need a heal.And I've always thought animal farms would be fun and they are. I don't find clicking to things to make hearts then waiting 5 minutes fun but whatever. I'd have to agree with Mr.Blue on this one.And also hunger adds a lot to server games like the hunger games and pvp. And the old eating system was annoying in PVP, you almost kill them and they instantly eat a load of food and do a complete regen. Eating was more strategic back then.  You have to make sure to eat just enough but not was it all.
Isn't eating strategic now? When fighting mobs, on certain maps especially, you need to decide whether to eat the little food you have for regen, or wait and try to save it for later, if you mess up, you will starve to death. (If you play on hard like awesome people)

And the experience system was and still is extremely screwed up. You want the enchanting to be like gambling? That's fine. Just don't make getting to level 50 one of the most menial tasks I've ever accomplished if you do. Fighting mobs actively is fun, but you don't get higher levels that way. No, you MOB FARM. Oh the joy of having my character sit motionless for an hour then clicking the same spot 500 times. And even then, after wasting an hour that I could have been more productive in-game, I have to risk the levels on a potentially bad enchantment.
But you DO get higher levels by fighting mobs. And anyway, it's improving. In 1.3 you only need to get to 30 and there are more ways to get experience.
Yeah, technically you are fighting mobs. But the only effective way to not waste your life getting high levels was cheat or mob farm But now you can get better enchants at low levels, on an average night, you can get around 7 levels.
And the changes to that system aren't particularly great. You can now get faster levels but with equally menial tasks. YAY SMELTING STONE! Besides, smelting doesn't provide enough XP in the balance anyway. It should give more than plain mining an already refined resource because it takes mining + coal. Unless some serious balancing has happened since I used the snapshot (at the time), enchanting is still completely wack.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought it was only ore smelting?I'm pretty sure it's anything that will go through a change when smelting provides XP The smelting is just a bit of bonus xp, probably not intended to be farmed.
I have more but this is enough for now and I lazy.

The BBCode is getting insane. D:

3rd person opinions 

Last edited by catfan8 (2012-07-27 07:21:09)