Scratch

JoLLDS · 2012-07-04 07:31:18

for Scratch 2.0 3D easy, see:

http://scratch.mit.edu/projects/JoLLDS/2651940

see project to see.

more notes:

I see the idea declined: http://suggest.scratch.mit.edu/forums/60449-suggestions/suggestions/1211201-a-3d-version-of-scratch, for admin "Lightinin", I discorve how to Scratch 2.0 3D easy, to facility of Scratch 2.0 easy, for not Scratch 2.0 be dificulty, please, see the project.

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henley · 2012-07-04 14:44:38

JoLLDS wrote:
see project to see.

Oh rly?

Haiming · 2012-07-04 19:17:43

Pretty complex project. Maybe tidy up the screen?

JoLLDS · 2012-07-16 12:20:37

henley wrote:
JoLLDS wrote:
see project to see.
Oh rly?

answer: This project in: (Project Link)

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scratcher5000 · 2012-07-16 13:25:22

what does this have to do with new scratchers?

JoLLDS · 2012-07-16 20:10:30

scratcher5000 wrote:
what does this have to do with new scratchers?

answer: 3D easy

JoLLDS · 2012-07-17 10:32:28

When [create sprite 3D v] clicked
if <3D easy?> //:)
well action
draw object 3D
else //:(
bad action
draw 2D objects
option to use x and y
stamp
end

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ftf841 · 2012-07-17 13:14:35

3D paint programs are way more complex than that and this belongs in suggestions not new scratchers.

Lucario621 · 2012-07-17 13:48:33

3D Scratch would be cool, but I'm not sure if its the direction the Scratch Team is really interested in. I'll move this topic to the suggestions forum so you can get more feedback. smile

SciTecCf · 2012-07-18 06:02:02

ftf841 wrote:
3D paint programs are way more complex than that and this belongs in suggestions not new scratchers.

Totally. Plus, Scratch runs in Squeak, which, to my knowledge, does not support 3D. AND 3D models usually have 500+ faces, meaning that you would need 500+ costumes, and 2000+ positions, and textures, reflections, physics, particle effects, collision detection, a rendering engine, 3D sensing, a new camera morph... In fact, you would have to redesign Scratch entirely, and in another programming language... *shudder* Sorry, this just isn't gonna work.

jontmy00 · 2012-07-18 06:39:19

SciTecCf wrote:
ftf841 wrote:
3D paint programs are way more complex than that and this belongs in suggestions not new scratchers.
Totally. Plus, Scratch runs in Squeak, which, to my knowledge, does not support 3D. AND 3D models usually have 500+ faces, meaning that you would need 500+ costumes, and 2000+ positions, and textures, reflections, physics, particle effects, collision detection, a rendering engine, 3D sensing, a new camera morph... In fact, you would have to redesign Scratch entirely, and in another programming language... *shudder* Sorry, this just isn't gonna work.

Exactly, if you want 3D, use Alice.

777w · 2012-07-18 07:14:48

SciTecCf wrote:
ftf841 wrote:
3D paint programs are way more complex than that and this belongs in suggestions not new scratchers.
Totally. Plus, Scratch runs in Squeak, which, to my knowledge, does not support 3D. AND 3D models usually have 500+ faces, meaning that you would need 500+ costumes, and 2000+ positions, and textures, reflections, physics, particle effects, collision detection, a rendering engine, 3D sensing, a new camera morph... In fact, you would have to redesign Scratch entirely, and in another programming language... *shudder* Sorry, this just isn't gonna work.

except 2.0 will be in flash not squeak
i dont know how well that deals with 3d though

SciTecCf · 2012-07-18 07:25:29

777w wrote:
SciTecCf wrote:
ftf841 wrote:
3D paint programs are way more complex than that and this belongs in suggestions not new scratchers.
Totally. Plus, Scratch runs in Squeak, which, to my knowledge, does not support 3D. AND 3D models usually have 500+ faces, meaning that you would need 500+ costumes, and 2000+ positions, and textures, reflections, physics, particle effects, collision detection, a rendering engine, 3D sensing, a new camera morph... In fact, you would have to redesign Scratch entirely, and in another programming language... *shudder* Sorry, this just isn't gonna work.
except 2.0 will be in flash not squeak
i dont know how well that deals with 3d though

Flash can do 3D with the proper extensions, such as Unity.

ftf841 · 2012-07-18 08:38:15

SciTecCf wrote:
777w wrote:
SciTecCf wrote:

Totally. Plus, Scratch runs in Squeak, which, to my knowledge, does not support 3D. AND 3D models usually have 500+ faces, meaning that you would need 500+ costumes, and 2000+ positions, and textures, reflections, physics, particle effects, collision detection, a rendering engine, 3D sensing, a new camera morph... In fact, you would have to redesign Scratch entirely, and in another programming language... *shudder* Sorry, this just isn't gonna work.
except 2.0 will be in flash not squeak
i dont know how well that deals with 3d though
Flash can do 3D with the proper extensions, such as Unity.

but usinty is not widly used so i don't think the ST is going to make a 3D made with unity 3d player.

SciTecCf · 2012-07-18 08:40:01

ftf841 wrote:
SciTecCf wrote:
777w wrote:
except 2.0 will be in flash not squeak
i dont know how well that deals with 3d though
Flash can do 3D with the proper extensions, such as Unity.
but usinty is not widly used so i don't think the ST is going to make a 3D made with unity 3d player.

Hey, I'm on your side, I'm just saying, 3D is possible in flash.

ftf841 · 2012-07-18 08:40:22

jontmy00 wrote:
SciTecCf wrote:
ftf841 wrote:
3D paint programs are way more complex than that and this belongs in suggestions not new scratchers.
Totally. Plus, Scratch runs in Squeak, which, to my knowledge, does not support 3D. AND 3D models usually have 500+ faces, meaning that you would need 500+ costumes, and 2000+ positions, and textures, reflections, physics, particle effects, collision detection, a rendering engine, 3D sensing, a new camera morph... In fact, you would have to redesign Scratch entirely, and in another programming language... *shudder* Sorry, this just isn't gonna work.
Exactly, if you want 3D, use Alice.

um.... alice stinks

ftf841 · 2012-07-18 08:43:30

SciTecCf wrote:
ftf841 wrote:
SciTecCf wrote:
Flash can do 3D with the proper extensions, such as Unity.
but usinty is not widly used so i don't think the ST is going to make a 3D made with unity 3d player.
Hey, I'm on your side, I'm just saying, 3D is possible in flash.

I know wink

JoLLDS · 2012-07-18 14:32:15

Lucario621 wrote:
3D Scratch would be cool, but I'm not sure if its the direction the Scratch Team is really interested in. I'll move this topic to the suggestions forum so you can get more feedback.

You're right, but to know, you might ask, if you read this message, I did not say rude the way, thanks for answering this forum.

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JoLLDS · 2012-07-18 14:37:40

ftf841 wrote:
jontmy00 wrote:
SciTecCf wrote:
Totally. Plus, Scratch runs in Squeak, which, to my knowledge, does not support 3D. AND 3D models usually have 500+ faces, meaning that you would need 500+ costumes, and 2000+ positions, and textures, reflections, physics, particle effects, collision detection, a rendering engine, 3D sensing, a new camera morph... In fact, you would have to redesign Scratch entirely, and in another programming language... *shudder* Sorry, this just isn't gonna work.
Exactly, if you want 3D, use Alice.
um.... alice stinks

Alice does not stink, it is very good, sounding a bit like Scratch, Alice is cool, but I gave this idea to make a 3D without having to choose the other, and if you want to make your own, not to model Blender also.

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JoLLDS · 2012-07-18 14:43:10

777w wrote:
SciTecCf wrote:
ftf841 wrote:
3D paint programs are way more complex than that and this belongs in suggestions not new scratchers.
Totally. Plus, Scratch runs in Squeak, which, to my knowledge, does not support 3D. AND 3D models usually have 500+ faces, meaning that you would need 500+ costumes, and 2000+ positions, and textures, reflections, physics, particle effects, collision detection, a rendering engine, 3D sensing, a new camera morph... In fact, you would have to redesign Scratch entirely, and in another programming language... *shudder* Sorry, this just isn't gonna work.
except 2.0 will be in flash not squeak
i dont know how well that deals with 3d though

Scratch 2.0 will work in Flash Player, you're half right, because the Scratch 2.0 in the offline version will work in Squeak

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777w · 2012-07-18 14:46:51

JoLLDS wrote:
777w wrote:
SciTecCf wrote:

Totally. Plus, Scratch runs in Squeak, which, to my knowledge, does not support 3D. AND 3D models usually have 500+ faces, meaning that you would need 500+ costumes, and 2000+ positions, and textures, reflections, physics, particle effects, collision detection, a rendering engine, 3D sensing, a new camera morph... In fact, you would have to redesign Scratch entirely, and in another programming language... *shudder* Sorry, this just isn't gonna work.
except 2.0 will be in flash not squeak
i dont know how well that deals with 3d though
Scratch 2.0 will work in Flash Player, you're half right, because the Scratch 2.0 in the offline version will work in Squeak

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http://i.imgur.com/ngqGY.gif

lol fake sig
id like to see your source, ive heard nothing of the 2.0 offline program being in squeak. in fact, i havent seen anything about the offline editor except that it will exist

ftf841 · 2012-07-18 14:53:08

JoLLDS wrote:
777w wrote:
SciTecCf wrote:

Totally. Plus, Scratch runs in Squeak, which, to my knowledge, does not support 3D. AND 3D models usually have 500+ faces, meaning that you would need 500+ costumes, and 2000+ positions, and textures, reflections, physics, particle effects, collision detection, a rendering engine, 3D sensing, a new camera morph... In fact, you would have to redesign Scratch entirely, and in another programming language... *shudder* Sorry, this just isn't gonna work.
except 2.0 will be in flash not squeak
i dont know how well that deals with 3d though
Scratch 2.0 will work in Flash Player, you're half right, because the Scratch 2.0 in the offline version will work in Squeak

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http://i.imgur.com/ngqGY.gif

you could compile the offline flash version into an executable file.

berberberber · 2012-07-18 15:02:45

That project isn't even 3D.

ftf841 · 2012-07-18 15:03:13

JoLLDS wrote:
ftf841 wrote:
jontmy00 wrote:

Exactly, if you want 3D, use Alice.
um.... alice stinks
Alice does not stink, it is very good, sounding a bit like Scratch, Alice is cool, but I gave this idea to make a 3D without having to choose the other, and if you want to make your own, not to model Blender also.

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http://i.imgur.com/ngqGY.gif

reasons why alice stinks:
1. you have to use the selection of sprites they have because there is no 3D paint editor on alice
2.UI is hard for begginers to understand
3.some blocks do not work at all

also i have installed alice before and if you want to see some more problems with alice look here: http://scratch.mit.edu/forums/viewtopic.php?id=98960

videogame9 · 2012-07-18 16:15:14

JoLLDS wrote:
for Scratch 2.0 3D easy, see:

http://scratch.mit.edu/projects/JoLLDS/2651940

see project to see.

more notes:

I see the idea declined: http://suggest.scratch.mit.edu/forums/6 … of-scratch for admin "Lightinin", I discorve how to Scratch 2.0 3D easy, to facility of Scratch 2.0 easy, for not Scratch 2.0 be dificulty, please see the project.

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#1 2012-07-04 07:31:18

for Scratch 2.0 3D easy, see: http://scratch.mit.edu/projects/JoLLDS/

#2 2012-07-04 14:44:38

Re: for Scratch 2.0 3D easy, see: http://scratch.mit.edu/projects/JoLLDS/

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#3 2012-07-04 19:17:43

Re: for Scratch 2.0 3D easy, see: http://scratch.mit.edu/projects/JoLLDS/

#4 2012-07-16 12:20:37

Re: for Scratch 2.0 3D easy, see: http://scratch.mit.edu/projects/JoLLDS/

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#5 2012-07-16 13:25:22

Re: for Scratch 2.0 3D easy, see: http://scratch.mit.edu/projects/JoLLDS/

#6 2012-07-16 20:10:30

Re: for Scratch 2.0 3D easy, see: http://scratch.mit.edu/projects/JoLLDS/

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#7 2012-07-17 10:32:28

Re: for Scratch 2.0 3D easy, see: http://scratch.mit.edu/projects/JoLLDS/

#8 2012-07-17 13:14:35

Re: for Scratch 2.0 3D easy, see: http://scratch.mit.edu/projects/JoLLDS/

#9 2012-07-17 13:48:33

Re: for Scratch 2.0 3D easy, see: http://scratch.mit.edu/projects/JoLLDS/

#10 2012-07-18 06:02:02

Re: for Scratch 2.0 3D easy, see: http://scratch.mit.edu/projects/JoLLDS/

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#11 2012-07-18 06:39:19

Re: for Scratch 2.0 3D easy, see: http://scratch.mit.edu/projects/JoLLDS/

SciTecCf wrote:

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#12 2012-07-18 07:14:48

Re: for Scratch 2.0 3D easy, see: http://scratch.mit.edu/projects/JoLLDS/

SciTecCf wrote:

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#13 2012-07-18 07:25:29

Re: for Scratch 2.0 3D easy, see: http://scratch.mit.edu/projects/JoLLDS/

777w wrote:

SciTecCf wrote:

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#14 2012-07-18 08:38:15

Re: for Scratch 2.0 3D easy, see: http://scratch.mit.edu/projects/JoLLDS/

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#15 2012-07-18 08:40:01

Re: for Scratch 2.0 3D easy, see: http://scratch.mit.edu/projects/JoLLDS/

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#16 2012-07-18 08:40:22

Re: for Scratch 2.0 3D easy, see: http://scratch.mit.edu/projects/JoLLDS/

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#17 2012-07-18 08:43:30

Re: for Scratch 2.0 3D easy, see: http://scratch.mit.edu/projects/JoLLDS/

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#18 2012-07-18 14:32:15

Re: for Scratch 2.0 3D easy, see: http://scratch.mit.edu/projects/JoLLDS/

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#19 2012-07-18 14:37:40

Re: for Scratch 2.0 3D easy, see: http://scratch.mit.edu/projects/JoLLDS/

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#20 2012-07-18 14:43:10

Re: for Scratch 2.0 3D easy, see: http://scratch.mit.edu/projects/JoLLDS/

777w wrote:

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#21 2012-07-18 14:46:51

Re: for Scratch 2.0 3D easy, see: http://scratch.mit.edu/projects/JoLLDS/

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#22 2012-07-18 14:53:08

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