Garr8 wrote:
My dad once told me that there are only twelve stories. He probably did not mean that literally, but his point was that there are only so many plot devices and everything else is a retelling of that plot.
It's not plot device, it's basic plot. Oh and it's seven.
Overcoming the monster (metaphorical or otherwise), rags to riches, the quest, voyage and return, comedy, tragedy, rebirth.
A college student once said he could write any story to a professional author if given the plot. The author said "Boy meets girl. They fall in love." It's not what you write, it's how you write.
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jukyter wrote:
Garr8 wrote:
My dad once told me that there are only twelve stories. He probably did not mean that literally, but his point was that there are only so many plot devices and everything else is a retelling of that plot.
It's not plot device, it's basic plot. Oh and it's seven.
Overcoming the monster (metaphorical or otherwise), rags to riches, the quest, voyage and return, comedy, tragedy, rebirth.
A college student once said he could write any story to a professional author if given the plot. The author said "Boy meets girl. They fall in love." It's not what you write, it's how you write.
True. I noticed Riordan's mythological novels all revolve around a god returning from death or prison and someone is usually captured for the hero to rescue. I like his stories are good but repetetive.
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Garr8 wrote:
jukyter wrote:
Garr8 wrote:
My dad once told me that there are only twelve stories. He probably did not mean that literally, but his point was that there are only so many plot devices and everything else is a retelling of that plot.
It's not plot device, it's basic plot. Oh and it's seven.
Overcoming the monster (metaphorical or otherwise), rags to riches, the quest, voyage and return, comedy, tragedy, rebirth.
A college student once said he could write any story to a professional author if given the plot. The author said "Boy meets girl. They fall in love." It's not what you write, it's how you write.True. I noticed Riordan's mythological novels all revolve around a god returning from death or prison and someone is usually captured for the hero to rescue. I like his stories are good but repetetive.
Which is 'the quest'/possibly 'rags to riches'. But he doesn't write well enough for it to capture me or soup's imagination.
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Garr8 wrote:
Eragon's plot was based on Star Wars. And Star Wars' plot was based on Flash Gordon and some old Samurai movie that came out a long time ago.
Flash Gordon was a man battle an evil emperor who looked Chinese. The emperor had a planet that could travel through space and destroy other planets.
The Samurai Movie (I forgot its title) was about samurai warriors batttling eachother trying to rescue a princess, And Star Wars Episode 4: A New Hope is about Luke and Han rescueing Leia. R2- D2 and C3PO were based on two characters from the samurai movie. They were both soldiers who did not want to be in the military. The shorter one made the best of it while the taller one was a goofball.
Eragon is a terrible example for this. That one is simply a shameless rip-off.
However, most of George Lucas's movies are based on old things. He cites the Forbidden Tempe (I think that's the name) and Flash Gordon as influences for when he was making Star War's. He's giving credit and actually creating a unique enough plot and work to call it his own.
He does the same thing with Indiana Jones. The first three movies were based on action/adventure serials and the fourth on 50's B movies.
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Garr8 wrote:
Back on topic please, people.
This is on-topic. Tangentially, but on-topic. You asked for good story ideas and we're discussing what makes a good story.
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Garr8 wrote:
I thought of a priest releasing the god Set, but I could not come up with a logical reason because why would somebody release a diabolical deity?
0_e *eyetwitch*
You do realize that that is EXACTLY like the Kane chronicles?
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wolvesstar97 wrote:
Garr8 wrote:
I thought of a priest releasing the god Set, but I could not come up with a logical reason because why would somebody release a diabolical deity?
0_e *eyetwitch*
You do realize that that is EXACTLY like the Kane chronicles?
But this one might be written well.
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soupoftomato wrote:
wolvesstar97 wrote:
Garr8 wrote:
I thought of a priest releasing the god Set, but I could not come up with a logical reason because why would somebody release a diabolical deity?
0_e *eyetwitch*
You do realize that that is EXACTLY like the Kane chronicles?But this one might be written well.
Yeah. And Wrath of the Titans was exactly like the Percy Jackson story- wise.
Cronos is rising, Perseus battles Ares, Perseus battles a Minotaur, he goes into labyrinth, etc.
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