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#26 2012-07-04 17:58:48

veggieman001
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Re: Good books to recommend?

Wickimen wrote:

scmb1 wrote:

veggieman001 wrote:


I find this even more bizarre.

Wow, that's silly. Also, a bunch of guides to books have much higher ratings than the books themselves. I feel like if a book needs a guide, it should have a fairly high rating.

Some book numbering systems are based off of the average syllables used in each word, which is supposed to calculate how difficult the words are
(But that isn't really true in some cases)
They then rate the book according to its difficulty, which may or may not make sense
Because for instance, 'rime' (a favorite word of mine) is less common than 'frost', yet they are the same amount of syllables
Maybe that is what they're doing here?

A Lexile text measure is based on two strong predictors of how difficult a text is to comprehend: word frequency and sentence length.


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#27 2012-07-04 18:01:38

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Re: Good books to recommend?

veggieman001 wrote:

Wickimen wrote:

scmb1 wrote:


Wow, that's silly. Also, a bunch of guides to books have much higher ratings than the books themselves. I feel like if a book needs a guide, it should have a fairly high rating.

Some book numbering systems are based off of the average syllables used in each word, which is supposed to calculate how difficult the words are
(But that isn't really true in some cases)
They then rate the book according to its difficulty, which may or may not make sense
Because for instance, 'rime' (a favorite word of mine) is less common than 'frost', yet they are the same amount of syllables
Maybe that is what they're doing here?

A Lexile text measure is based on two strong predictors of how difficult a text is to comprehend: word frequency and sentence length.

Oh I see
Still though, could be the same problem--that doesn't necessarily mean that it's harder or easier because of sentence length/word freq.


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#28 2012-07-04 18:03:35

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Re: Good books to recommend?

why do you say "good books to recommend" when youre looking for recommendations and not doing the recommending yourself?
anyway, i liked watership down and plague dogs, both by richard adams

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#29 2012-07-04 18:03:50

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Re: Good books to recommend?

Wickimen wrote:

veggieman001 wrote:

Wickimen wrote:


Some book numbering systems are based off of the average syllables used in each word, which is supposed to calculate how difficult the words are
(But that isn't really true in some cases)
They then rate the book according to its difficulty, which may or may not make sense
Because for instance, 'rime' (a favorite word of mine) is less common than 'frost', yet they are the same amount of syllables
Maybe that is what they're doing here?

A Lexile text measure is based on two strong predictors of how difficult a text is to comprehend: word frequency and sentence length.

Oh I see
Still though, could be the same problem--that doesn't necessarily mean that it's harder or easier because of sentence length/word freq.

Aye. It'd be better to have a rating where books are rated by people on their difficulty.


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#30 2012-07-04 18:05:33

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Re: Good books to recommend?

veggieman001 wrote:

Wickimen wrote:

veggieman001 wrote:

Wickimen wrote:

Some book numbering systems are based off of the average syllables used in each word, which is supposed to calculate how difficult the words are
(But that isn't really true in some cases)
They then rate the book according to its difficulty, which may or may not make sense
Because for instance, 'rime' (a favorite word of mine) is less common than 'frost', yet they are the same amount of syllables
Maybe that is what they're doing here?

Oh I see
Still though, could be the same problem--that doesn't necessarily mean that it's harder or easier because of sentence length/word freq.

Aye. It'd be better to have a rating where books are rated by people on their difficulty.

What sort of people?
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#31 2012-07-04 18:06:49

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Re: Good books to recommend?

bananaman114 wrote:

veggieman001 wrote:

Wickimen wrote:


Oh I see
Still though, could be the same problem--that doesn't necessarily mean that it's harder or easier because of sentence length/word freq.

Aye. It'd be better to have a rating where books are rated by people on their difficulty.

What sort of people?
psst wicki gmail now psst

That could prove both good and bad depending on who rated it
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#32 2012-07-04 18:14:54

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Re: Good books to recommend?

Wickimen wrote:

bananaman114 wrote:

veggieman001 wrote:


Aye. It'd be better to have a rating where books are rated by people on their difficulty.

What sort of people?
psst wicki gmail now psst

That could prove both good and bad depending on who rated it
i'd love to but it will crash, could you come on galaxybox?

Just like CommonSense Media


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#33 2012-07-04 18:55:49

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Re: Good books to recommend?

Wickimen wrote:

scmb1 wrote:

veggieman001 wrote:


I find this even more bizarre.

Wow, that's silly. Also, a bunch of guides to books have much higher ratings than the books themselves. I feel like if a book needs a guide, it should have a fairly high rating.

Some book numbering systems are based off of the average syllables used in each word, which is supposed to calculate how difficult the words are
(But that isn't really true in some cases)
They then rate the book according to its difficulty, which may or may not make sense
Because for instance, 'rime' (a favorite word of mine) is less common than 'frost', yet they are the same amount of syllables
Maybe that is what they're doing here?

Oh, I see. So the reason Catcher and the Rye isn't 1000+ is that the frequency of the phrase "and all" brings down the average syllable calculation.  tongue


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#34 2012-07-05 06:36:57

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Re: Good books to recommend?

Not sure about lexiles for these, but I would recommend:
-The Maze Runner
-The 13th Reality
-The Divide
-Septimus Heap
-Big Mouth and Ugly Girl


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#35 2012-07-05 08:39:11

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Re: Good books to recommend?

I'd suggest the Shakespeare Stealer, but then again, I'm doing it for [color=blue} 6th [/color] grade summer reading. And I don't think it has 300 pages.


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#36 2012-07-05 13:36:24

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Re: Good books to recommend?

Agg725 wrote:

I'd suggest the Shakespeare Stealer, but then again, I'm doing it for [color=blue} 6th [/color] grade summer reading. And I don't think it has 300 pages.

A good book, but 224 pages and an 870 lexile
I don't think I've ever had to do summer reading
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#37 2012-07-05 18:31:25

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Re: Good books to recommend?

Wickimen wrote:

Agg725 wrote:

I'd suggest the Shakespeare Stealer, but then again, I'm doing it for [color=blue} 6th [/color] grade summer reading. And I don't think it has 300 pages.

A good book, but 224 pages and an 870 lexile
I don't think I've ever had to do summer reading
Strange

Our school has one required summer reading book for each grade, and you have to pick 1 of 3 projects to do for a grade. (Even the teachers have summer reading this year!) On top of that, Mom always signs us up for the program at the library.


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#38 2012-07-05 18:35:38

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Re: Good books to recommend?

bananaman114 wrote:

20,000 Leagues Under the Sea..?

Is that book good? I've seen it in the library.


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#39 2012-07-05 18:37:17

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Re: Good books to recommend?

BoltBait wrote:

Here are some good choices for you:

Sense and Sensibility or Pride and Prejudice by Jane Austen
Robinson Crusoe by Daniel Defoe
Mutiny on the Bounty by Charles Nordhoff
Little Women by Louisa May Alcott
Uncle Tom's Cabin by Harriet Beecher Stowe
20,000 Leagues under the Sea by Jules Verne

I'm looking for a good read as well. Hmm.... Which one... All of them!!


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#40 2012-07-05 18:38:43

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Re: Good books to recommend?

cheddargirl wrote:

Can it be 1000 on the dot? The Hobbit is over 300 pages, and when I went to check, the lexile number was 1000.

(wow I've posted a lot lately) My brother read that book for 8th grade. It sounds like a great book.


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#41 2012-07-05 18:47:45

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Re: Good books to recommend?

The Princess Bride: S. Morgenstern's Classic Tale of True love and High Adventure: The Good Parts version


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