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#26 2010-02-23 09:57:21

Paddle2See
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Re: Solution to lower the rate of people bumping up old threads

BWOG wrote:

Does that mean... we're changing forums???  yikes

I really don't know...nobody has told me what the plans are for the forums.  It just seemed to me if they are going to design a new web-based Scratch from the ground up, they might well chose to include a more tightly integrated forum.


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#27 2010-02-23 16:37:47

Lucario621
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Re: Solution to lower the rate of people bumping up old threads

Jonathanpb wrote:

Lucario, I love your idea! But I think the message should be where the post area is. It won't let you post unless you agree to the message and click OK. Sort of like this:

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What do you think?  smile

That's another good idea! Even better, if you ask me  smile


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#28 2010-02-23 16:40:29

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Re: Solution to lower the rate of people bumping up old threads

Just in case any of you want to know, I got the idea from the forums that wikis have. I was looking through the older threads, clicked on a thread, and I saw that message, so I thought it would be helpful to have on scratch  tongue


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#29 2010-02-24 06:47:07

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Re: Solution to lower the rate of people bumping up old threads

Ace-of-Spades wrote:

Jonathanpb wrote:

Ace-of-Spades wrote:

To [removed] and- I mean the two users responsible, you know who you are.

Hey, the moderators don't like it when you talk about someone in a bad way, and give the username. Just letting you know.  smile

Yeah and now watch this: In the future, that user will repeat the process because he doesn't know what he's doing. It's not a matter of good and bad, but a matter of understanding. He doesn't understand he's necroposting.

You're not getting my point - the moderators don't like it when you mention how someone was being bad. It's sort of like insulting them.

Actually, I went to the trouble to ask Paddle2See if I should report posts with those 'insults' or not, and he said to.

Why would you have to insult a user to let them know that they were doing something bad?  hmm

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#30 2010-02-24 06:49:14

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Re: Solution to lower the rate of people bumping up old threads

Paddle2See wrote:

BWOG wrote:

Does that mean... we're changing forums???  yikes

I really don't know...nobody has told me what the plans are for the forums.  It just seemed to me if they are going to design a new web-based Scratch from the ground up, they might well chose to include a more tightly integrated forum.

I think they'll be keeping some stuff though - Lightnin said that he'd see to it that the registration dates thing would be implemented when the website would be changed for Scratch 2.0.  smile


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#31 2010-02-25 14:55:38

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Re: Solution to lower the rate of people bumping up old threads

Jonathanpb wrote:

Paddle2See wrote:

BWOG wrote:

Does that mean... we're changing forums???  yikes

I really don't know...nobody has told me what the plans are for the forums.  It just seemed to me if they are going to design a new web-based Scratch from the ground up, they might well chose to include a more tightly integrated forum.

I think they'll be keeping some stuff though - Lightnin said that he'd see to it that the registration dates thing would be implemented when the website would be changed for Scratch 2.0.  smile

Yep- more tightly integrated forums would likely solve the registration date thing too.  smile


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#32 2010-02-25 17:16:12

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Re: Solution to lower the rate of people bumping up old threads

Jonathanpb wrote:

Ace-of-Spades wrote:

Jonathanpb wrote:

Hey, the moderators don't like it when you talk about someone in a bad way, and give the username. Just letting you know.  smile

Yeah and now watch this: In the future, that user will repeat the process because he doesn't know what he's doing. It's not a matter of good and bad, but a matter of understanding. He doesn't understand he's necroposting.

You're not getting my point - the moderators don't like it when you mention how someone was being bad. It's sort of like insulting them.

Actually, I went to the trouble to ask Paddle2See if I should report posts with those 'insults' or not, and he said to.

Why would you have to insult a user to let them know that they were doing something bad?  hmm

If I mentioned that a certain user was doing something wrong, would that be insulting them? That's your opinion. I can't see how it could be insulting, unless you assumed that I had the worst, most evil intentions towards rdococ right off the bat for some odd reason. If you asked Paddle2See about reporting posts with insults in them, of course he would agree. However, the post was not an insult. Getting to the question at the end, your post states that "Mentioning someone doing something bad" is insulting them. So in that case, the question converts to "Why would you insult a user to insult a user?" To which I reply that I didn't.  hmm

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#33 2010-02-25 22:47:36

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Re: Solution to lower the rate of people bumping up old threads

greenflash wrote:

Lucario621 wrote:

Ace-of-Spades wrote:

1 month is too short. Plus it's mainly just 2 users doing it, so if we could get them to stop, about 124% of the necroposting rates would go down.

More like 3756547%  tongue

I have seen those numbers somewhere...

The forum uses PunBB doesn't it? I'm not sure if it's possible. Maybe if you make the date posted bigger, it would stop it. But that might not be possible either.

PunBB is a PHP collection.
Since it is open source, the scratch team can easily edit it.
As far as showing the message is concerned, it is just a matter of an if statement that only shows the message if the topic is too old.

Personally, though, I see no problem in bumping up old threads.
I have done that on occasion, however only when it was either posted back when there were barely any users on the forums, or when I had something useful to add to the post.


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#34 2010-02-25 23:43:10

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Re: Solution to lower the rate of people bumping up old threads

Ace-of-Spades wrote:

Jonathanpb wrote:

Ace-of-Spades wrote:

Yeah and now watch this: In the future, that user will repeat the process because he doesn't know what he's doing. It's not a matter of good and bad, but a matter of understanding. He doesn't understand he's necroposting.

You're not getting my point - the moderators don't like it when you mention how someone was being bad. It's sort of like insulting them.

Actually, I went to the trouble to ask Paddle2See if I should report posts with those 'insults' or not, and he said to.

Why would you have to insult a user to let them know that they were doing something bad?  hmm

If I mentioned that a certain user was doing something wrong, would that be insulting them?

It depends on how you say it, silly.  roll

You can say it nicely and harshly.


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#35 2010-02-25 23:44:14

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Re: Solution to lower the rate of people bumping up old threads

Lightnin wrote:

Jonathanpb wrote:

Paddle2See wrote:

I really don't know...nobody has told me what the plans are for the forums.  It just seemed to me if they are going to design a new web-based Scratch from the ground up, they might well chose to include a more tightly integrated forum.

I think they'll be keeping some stuff though - Lightnin said that he'd see to it that the registration dates thing would be implemented when the website would be changed for Scratch 2.0.  smile

Yep- more tightly integrated forums would likely solve the registration date thing too.  smile

I'm looking forward to that.  smile


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#36 2010-02-26 00:53:09

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Re: Solution to lower the rate of people bumping up old threads

Ace-of-Spades wrote:

If I mentioned that a certain user was doing something wrong, would that be insulting them? That's your opinion. I can't see how it could be insulting, unless you assumed that I had the worst, most evil intentions towards rdococ right off the bat for some odd reason. If you asked Paddle2See about reporting posts with insults in them, of course he would agree. However, the post was not an insult. Getting to the question at the end, your post states that "Mentioning someone doing something bad" is insulting them. So in that case, the question converts to "Why would you insult a user to insult a user?" To which I reply that I didn't.  hmm

Let's put it like this - when you mention a user and say that they did something bad, that's sort of like insulting. The moderators don't like that. That's all I was trying to get across.

And let's stop and get back to Lucario's suggestion.


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#37 2012-06-22 10:05:17

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Re: Solution to lower the rate of people bumping up old threads

epic revival
this is a pretty good idea, despite being old

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#38 2012-06-22 12:13:13

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Re: Solution to lower the rate of people bumping up old threads

777w wrote:

epic revival
this is a pretty good idea, despite being old

lol you just necroposted a topic about the discuragement of necroposting. Fail.


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#39 2012-06-22 12:13:50

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Re: Solution to lower the rate of people bumping up old threads

joefarebrother wrote:

777w wrote:

epic revival
this is a pretty good idea, despite being old

lol you just necroposted a topic about the discuragement of necroposting. Fail.

paddle suggested it himself

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#40 2012-06-22 12:32:37

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Re: Solution to lower the rate of people bumping up old threads

I remember another forum had something like that; I think it was something like "warning: this topic was unreplied for 2 weeks, repling is called gravedigging..." But this would be more specific, so SUPPORT!


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#41 2012-06-22 15:36:07

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Re: Solution to lower the rate of people bumping up old threads

joefarebrother wrote:

777w wrote:

epic revival
this is a pretty good idea, despite being old

lol you just necroposted a topic about the discuragement of necroposting. Fail.

Necroposting is when there's nothing relevant left to say in the discussion and you post, that was relevant. ^^


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#42 2012-06-22 21:07:36

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Re: Solution to lower the rate of people bumping up old threads

Paddle suggested we continue this thread here (so nobody's necroposting). Anyways, I support.


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#43 2012-06-22 21:22:52

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Re: Solution to lower the rate of people bumping up old threads

Support, though the minimum should be about a month or 2.


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#44 2012-06-22 22:32:47

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Re: Solution to lower the rate of people bumping up old threads

I support.


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