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#176 2012-06-14 22:15:29

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Re: Mac Vs PC

Anybody competent can fend off malware for free on both systems well enough to the point where it hardly needs to be argued.


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#177 2012-06-15 06:09:56

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Re: Mac Vs PC

soupoftomato wrote:

Anybody competent can fend off malware for free on both systems well enough to the point where it hardly needs to be argued.

why do i feel the word "hardly" will create more arguments

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#178 2012-06-15 07:49:35

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Re: Mac Vs PC

You're definitely less likely to get malware on Mac


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#179 2012-06-15 08:19:54

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Re: Mac Vs PC

jji7skyline wrote:

You're definitely less likely to get malware on Mac as long as you have safety stuff on.

I added onto jji7skyline's post.


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#180 2012-06-15 09:14:27

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Re: Mac Vs PC

BOBBYBOB3 wrote:

jji7skyline wrote:

You're definitely less likely to get malware on Mac as long as you have safety stuff on.

I added onto jji7skyline's post.

Yeah. Remember my reason that Macs don't get as much malware a while back? If not, I'll include it here.
http://i.imgur.com/RaP9i.jpg
That is a market share chart.
As you can see, Windows has a significant portion of it.
If you wrote a virus, would you rather attack about 85% of people or 6% of people? Think about it.


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#181 2012-06-15 11:16:04

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Re: Mac Vs PC

Well, Macs are less likely to get malware than on Windows. This is because Windows is the majority. Still, Mac viruses ARE out there, and smug Mac users who download anything and everything are most likely to become infected. Aside from that, Linux has almost NO viruses. There have only been a few major ones out there, and they are very old. The reason for Linux to not get viruses today is because of the use of secure repositories. These repositories are at most trusted and the software they hold is most likely trusted as well. Then, there comes the fact that there are insecure repositories that may contain infected versions of open/closed source software. This is most unlikely, because most distributions, such as Debian and Ubuntu, only use their own mirrors. Other than that, there are insane and paranoid people like me who compile and do only that.(or use ports when on BSD  tongue ) Overall, Windows is most prone to viruses, Macs can very well get them, but less likely, and *nix is least likely, or impossible with secure distro-managed repositories.

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#182 2012-06-15 11:51:17

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Re: Mac Vs PC

jvvg wrote:

BOBBYBOB3 wrote:

jji7skyline wrote:

You're definitely less likely to get malware on Mac as long as you have safety stuff on.

I added onto jji7skyline's post.

Yeah. Remember my reason that Macs don't get as much malware a while back? If not, I'll include it here.
http://i.imgur.com/RaP9i.jpg
That is a market share chart.
As you can see, Windows has a significant portion of it.
If you wrote a virus, would you rather attack about 85% of people or 6% of people? Think about it.

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#183 2012-06-15 12:03:16

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Re: Mac Vs PC

Windows XP is more 35% and android up 10,000%


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#184 2012-06-15 12:05:59

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Re: Mac Vs PC

lallaway12 wrote:

Windows XP is more 35% and android up 10,000%

that just destroys the point hes trying to make though
and if you want to make your arguments sound at least half educated dont use terms like "10,000%" which is literally impossible

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#185 2012-06-15 12:43:52

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Re: Mac Vs PC

lallaway12 wrote:

Windows XP is more 35% and android up 10,000%

Lolwut?


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#186 2012-06-15 14:46:44

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Re: Mac Vs PC

lallaway12 wrote:

Windows XP is more 35% and android up 10,000%

Uh...


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#187 2012-06-15 14:49:36

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Re: Mac Vs PC

lallaway12 wrote:

Windows XP is more 35% and android up 10,000%

The chart is from February this year, and you should also know that Windows XP is used in a lot of things like airport kiosks.


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#188 2012-06-15 16:38:06

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Re: Mac Vs PC

Windows is great for gaming, Linux is better for everything else

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#189 2012-06-15 16:39:18

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Re: Mac Vs PC

conbot wrote:

Windows is great for gaming, Linux is better for everything else

but this is about mac vs pc i thought :/
and if pc is "personal computer," does that make macs public? :P

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#190 2012-06-15 16:41:17

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Re: Mac Vs PC

777w wrote:

conbot wrote:

Windows is great for gaming, Linux is better for everything else

but this is about mac vs pc i thought  hmm
and if pc is "personal computer," does that make macs public?  tongue

PC in this case generally referred to IBM-compatible PCs back in the day and the term has carried on to the present day as meaning Windows computers, generally.


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#191 2012-06-15 16:51:58

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Re: Mac Vs PC

I love how Mountain Lion and the past few OS' from Apple are extremely cheap. Just 20 bucks for Mountain Lion.  smile


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#192 2012-06-15 16:58:15

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Re: Mac Vs PC

InB4close

MAC.


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#193 2012-06-15 16:59:12

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Re: Mac Vs PC

CylonToast wrote:

InB4close

MAC.

there are 8 pages of people who were "inb4close" :I

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#194 2012-06-15 17:03:33

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Re: Mac Vs PC

stevetheipad wrote:

I love how Mountain Lion and the past few OS' from Apple are extremely cheap. Just 20 bucks for Mountain Lion.  smile

Wow, these mac people...


Now just to be clear that I don't hate on Macs, but most of the points that Mac users try to make are either invalid or incorrect.

For example, saying that OSX is cheap as an argument for why it is better than Windows is invalid because it isn't just a choice to install OSX on any computer like you can with Linux or Windows; to install OSX you need a very specific set of hardware not owned by most users. For all practical purposes, OSX is included with the hardware, which will cost $1,000+.

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#195 2012-06-15 18:36:21

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Re: Mac Vs PC

stevetheipad wrote:

I love how Mountain Lion and the past few OS' from Apple are extremely cheap. Just 20 bucks for Mountain Lion.  smile

Yeah, but if you account in the cost of the hardware, it is much more.
I was able to get my Windows netbook (which has 4 GB of RAM, and a ~500GB hard drive) for only $400.
It costs over $1000 to get a MacBook with the same specs.


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#196 2012-06-15 19:28:29

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Re: Mac Vs PC

stevetheipad wrote:

I love how Mountain Lion and the past few OS' from Apple are extremely cheap. Just 20 bucks for Mountain Lion.  smile

Linux is free, and feature-rich.

OS X is affordable but limited to Apple's * hardware.

Windows is expensive but found in most OEM hardware, and is most prone to viruses and crashes.

Solaris 10 is free, but you are lacking updates and access to the repository. Solaris is based on 2-decade old code which are incompetent to modern replacements like GNU and BSD code.

OpenVMS is not free. In order to use OpenVMS, you have to pay ridiculous amounts of money to use it, unless you are approved to receive a hobbyist license. OpenVMS is most stable; there are OpenVMS systems that have been maintaining several years of uptime, no shut downs or reboots. OpenVMS has a semi-active community whom are not nuisances like the other four.

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#197 2012-06-15 20:13:58

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Re: Mac Vs PC

conbot wrote:

OS X is affordable but limited to Apple's * hardware.

Please, watch your language!


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#198 2012-06-15 20:15:09

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Re: Mac Vs PC

conbot wrote:

Windows is expensive but found in most OEM hardware, and is most prone to viruses and crashes.

If you have any decent anti-virus, it is actually pretty safe. It also crashes at most once a month for me.


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#199 2012-06-15 21:37:40

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Re: Mac Vs PC

jvvg wrote:

conbot wrote:

Windows is expensive but found in most OEM hardware, and is most prone to viruses and crashes.

If you have any decent anti-virus, it is actually pretty safe. It also crashes at most once a month for me.

Still too much. This is why most IT companies depend on Linux for their servers. They can't risk a server crashing for some odd reason.

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#200 2012-06-15 21:41:37

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Re: Mac Vs PC

conbot wrote:

jvvg wrote:

conbot wrote:

Windows is expensive but found in most OEM hardware, and is most prone to viruses and crashes.

If you have any decent anti-virus, it is actually pretty safe. It also crashes at most once a month for me.

Still too much. This is why most IT companies depend on Linux for their servers. They can't risk a server crashing for some odd reason.

And, Linux is better for servers because it can be used for just about anything (because it is open-source).


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