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#1 2012-06-12 12:35:28

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If you get hacked...

Can the Scratch Team restore deleted projects?


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#2 2012-06-12 13:42:28

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Re: If you get hacked...

Yeah I think they did it once (but it depends on the case)


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#3 2012-06-12 14:28:27

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Re: If you get hacked...

yes they can theoretically


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#4 2012-06-12 15:47:36

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Re: If you get hacked...

As long as your password isn't something like your username then you don't need to worry about getting hacked anyway though.


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#5 2012-06-12 16:09:37

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Re: If you get hacked...

RedRocker227 wrote:

As long as your password isn't something like your username then you don't need to worry about getting hacked anyway though.

However, there is a complicated way for someone like your brother to hack it.

1. Go to the email, and reset the password (because the security question is probably something you know)
2. Click "forgot password" on Scratch and then go to the email

To prevent this, make the security question something that only YOU know.


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#6 2012-06-12 16:56:55

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Re: If you get hacked...

Also, your brother is on your LAN, so they could use a packet sniffer...


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#7 2012-06-12 16:58:32

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Re: If you get hacked...

jvvg wrote:

RedRocker227 wrote:

As long as your password isn't something like your username then you don't need to worry about getting hacked anyway though.

However, there is a complicated way for someone like your brother to hack it.

1. Go to the email, and reset the password (because the security question is probably something you know)
2. Click "forgot password" on Scratch and then go to the email

To prevent this, make the security question something that only YOU know.

Or have a separate email which nobody in real life knows you have, as I do.

bobbybee wrote:

Also, your brother is on your LAN, so they could use a packet sniffer...

Yeah , whatever that is.

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#8 2012-06-12 17:39:03

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Re: If you get hacked...

RedRocker227 wrote:

Yeah , whatever that is.

A "packet" is a piece of data that is transmitted over the network. A packet sniffer is a program that will "sniff" packets going through your network. Since Scratch sends passwords unencrypted, a packet sniffer could potentially expose anypony's password (on your LAN, of course)


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#9 2012-06-12 17:44:08

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Re: If you get hacked...

Thanks. :b


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#10 2012-06-12 17:49:21

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Re: If you get hacked...

bobbybee wrote:

Also, your brother is on your LAN, so they could use a packet sniffer...

This is why Scratch should allow HTTPS on their server. I know where you can get SSL certificates for just $10/year.


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#11 2012-06-12 22:03:02

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Re: If you get hacked...

RedRocker227 wrote:

As long as your password isn't something like your username then you don't need to worry about getting hacked anyway though.

But if your password is something easy to guess like "password" or "qwerty" then yeah......


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#12 2012-06-13 13:19:14

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Re: If you get hacked...

jvvg wrote:

RedRocker227 wrote:

As long as your password isn't something like your username then you don't need to worry about getting hacked anyway though.

However, there is a complicated way for someone like your brother to hack it.

1. Go to the email, and reset the password (because the security question is probably something you know)
2. Click "forgot password" on Scratch and then go to the email

To prevent this, make the security question something that only YOU know.

Or, if you saved it into the computer, they could just get to it that way.

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#13 2012-06-13 13:20:34

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Re: If you get hacked...

scimonster wrote:

jvvg wrote:

RedRocker227 wrote:

As long as your password isn't something like your username then you don't need to worry about getting hacked anyway though.

However, there is a complicated way for someone like your brother to hack it.

1. Go to the email, and reset the password (because the security question is probably something you know)
2. Click "forgot password" on Scratch and then go to the email

To prevent this, make the security question something that only YOU know.

Or, if you saved it into the computer, they could just get to it that way.

That's why saving passwords is a BAD idea.


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#14 2012-06-13 17:59:47

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Re: If you get hacked...

jvvg wrote:

scimonster wrote:

jvvg wrote:

However, there is a complicated way for someone like your brother to hack it.

1. Go to the email, and reset the password (because the security question is probably something you know)
2. Click "forgot password" on Scratch and then go to the email

To prevent this, make the security question something that only YOU know.

Or, if you saved it into the computer, they could just get to it that way.

That's why saving passwords is a BAD idea.

I've saved mine on the computer (well it's 20+ characters, randomly generated, how am I supposed to remember it?), but I've saved it as something like "German homework" inside loads of subfolders. And even if they do find it it'll just be loads of random letters and numbers, they won't necessarily know it's my password.

It prevents keyloggers too, because at no point do you actually type the password in, you just copy and paste it in.

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#15 2012-06-13 19:21:32

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Re: If you get hacked...

benjamin2 wrote:

Can the Scratch Team restore deleted projects?

YOU can put them back on, for one.


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#16 2012-06-13 19:22:59

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Re: If you get hacked...

RedRocker227 wrote:

jvvg wrote:

scimonster wrote:


Or, if you saved it into the computer, they could just get to it that way.

That's why saving passwords is a BAD idea.

I've saved mine on the computer (well it's 20+ characters, randomly generated, how am I supposed to remember it?), but I've saved it as something like "German homework" inside loads of subfolders. And even if they do find it it'll just be loads of random letters and numbers, they won't necessarily know it's my password.

It prevents keyloggers too, because at no point do you actually type the password in, you just copy and paste it in.

I just have a complicated password, anyway. Short and hard.


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#17 2012-06-13 20:56:49

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Re: If you get hacked...

The timing of this post is interesting...

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#18 2012-06-14 04:11:12

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Re: If you get hacked...

You can download deleted projects by inserting "static/" between "scratch.mit.edu/" and "projects/", and adding ".sb" to the end, as shown in this guide.


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#19 2012-06-14 09:54:26

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Re: If you get hacked...

trinary wrote:

You can download deleted projects by inserting "static/" between "scratch.mit.edu/" and "projects/", and adding ".sb" to the end, as shown in this guide.

I've always wondered how to do that. However, that only works if the owner remembers the links.


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#20 2012-06-14 12:28:42

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Re: If you get hacked...

BOBBYBOB3 wrote:

RedRocker227 wrote:

jvvg wrote:


That's why saving passwords is a BAD idea.

I've saved mine on the computer (well it's 20+ characters, randomly generated, how am I supposed to remember it?), but I've saved it as something like "German homework" inside loads of subfolders. And even if they do find it it'll just be loads of random letters and numbers, they won't necessarily know it's my password.

It prevents keyloggers too, because at no point do you actually type the password in, you just copy and paste it in.

I just have a complicated password, anyway. Short and hard.

Short complicated passwords are the easiest to crack, just use a string of random words. Easy to remember and unhackable


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#21 2012-06-15 02:43:10

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Re: If you get hacked...

Backup your projects.


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#22 2012-06-15 07:40:23

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Re: If you get hacked...

I store all my passwords on an app with a masterpassword :p   The master password can be sometimes hard to remember, but thats the point.  And sincE its on my ipod, i dont have to worry about packet sniffers.  (im the only one with a computer

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#23 2012-06-15 09:08:59

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Re: If you get hacked...

XenoK wrote:

I store all my passwords on an app with a masterpassword :p   The master password can be sometimes hard to remember, but thats the point.  And sincE its on my ipod, i dont have to worry about packet sniffers.  (im the only one with a computer

If the passwords are sent in any manner, they can be picked up by a packet sniffer. Even if they are saved.


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#24 2012-06-15 21:42:26

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Re: If you get hacked...

XenoK wrote:

I store all my passwords on an app with a masterpassword :p   The master password can be sometimes hard to remember, but thats the point.  And sincE its on my ipod, i dont have to worry about packet sniffers.  (im the only one with a computer

You would be extremely vulnerable if that master password was discovered.


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#25 2012-06-16 14:56:05

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Re: If you get hacked...

So basicly their is a very I say vary secrut way to do is it is in the «REMOVED»


It was removed as it is dangerous to do and I WOULD get baned


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