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#1 2012-05-23 20:31:15

JudasR
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comment is not over 500 characters

i had to revise a comment that was 499 characters down to 475 characters because it refused to take it, repeatedly giving me the message "Comments cannot exceed 500 characters"

i took a screenshot of the last revision i made before it finally posted with 479 characters and the same error: http://oi45.tinypic.com/5p3ekm.jpg

the feature doesn't even make sense when you think about it, since the text box for comments will refuse more than 500 characters to begin with.


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#2 2012-05-23 20:44:10

3sal2
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Re: comment is not over 500 characters

Did the comment contain spam? Sometimes the browser may get confused. It may have been recently downed to, uhh... maybe 400 characters. What browser are you using? On what computer?


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#3 2012-05-23 20:51:27

JudasR
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Re: comment is not over 500 characters

im using firefox on windows 7
there wasnt spam because it was fine with a slightly shorter version of the comment and if they downsized the comment character limit they would probably have it stop saying 500


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#4 2012-05-23 21:42:47

joletole
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Re: comment is not over 500 characters

JudasR wrote:

i had to revise a comment that was 499 characters down to 475 characters because it refused to take it, repeatedly giving me the message "Comments cannot exceed 500 characters"

i took a screenshot of the last revision i made before it finally posted with 479 characters and the same error: http://oi45.tinypic.com/5p3ekm.jpg

the feature doesn't even make sense when you think about it, since the text box for comments will refuse more than 500 characters to begin with.

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#5 2012-05-23 22:10:35

JudasR
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Re: comment is not over 500 characters

joletole wrote:

JudasR wrote:

i had to revise a comment that was 499 characters down to 475 characters because it refused to take it, repeatedly giving me the message "Comments cannot exceed 500 characters"

i took a screenshot of the last revision i made before it finally posted with 479 characters and the same error: http://oi45.tinypic.com/5p3ekm.jpg

the feature doesn't even make sense when you think about it, since the text box for comments will refuse more than 500 characters to begin with.

yes thats what i said
i cant post pictures or link to other sites because im still a new scratcher


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#6 2012-05-24 00:39:28

chanmanpartyman
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Re: comment is not over 500 characters

JudasR wrote:

joletole wrote:

JudasR wrote:

i had to revise a comment that was 499 characters down to 475 characters because it refused to take it, repeatedly giving me the message "Comments cannot exceed 500 characters"

i took a screenshot of the last revision i made before it finally posted with 479 characters and the same error: http://oi45.tinypic.com/5p3ekm.jpg

the feature doesn't even make sense when you think about it, since the text box for comments will refuse more than 500 characters to begin with.

yes thats what i said
i cant post pictures or link to other sites because im still a new scratcher

Not anymore  tongue

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#7 2012-05-24 07:18:13

scimonster
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Re: comment is not over 500 characters

Here's a suspicion i have. Did you use any non-standard characters, i.e, characters not available on a regular English keyboard?

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#8 2012-05-24 07:21:37

bobbybee
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Re: comment is not over 500 characters

scimonster wrote:

Here's a suspicion i have. Did you use any non-standard characters, i.e, characters not available on a regular English keyboard?

Those take like 4 bytes.


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#9 2012-05-24 07:27:19

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Re: comment is not over 500 characters

bobbybee wrote:

scimonster wrote:

Here's a suspicion i have. Did you use any non-standard characters, i.e, characters not available on a regular English keyboard?

Those take like 4 bytes.

Yes, multiple-byte characters are my concern. They could fool it into thinking it's over 500 characters.

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#10 2012-05-24 08:04:20

bobbybee
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Re: comment is not over 500 characters

scimonster wrote:

bobbybee wrote:

scimonster wrote:

Here's a suspicion i have. Did you use any non-standard characters, i.e, characters not available on a regular English keyboard?

Those take like 4 bytes.

Yes, multiple-byte characters are my concern. They could fool it into thinking it's over 500 characters.

They could force everything into UTF-32, and make the limit 2000


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#11 2012-05-24 08:06:22

scimonster
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Re: comment is not over 500 characters

bobbybee wrote:

scimonster wrote:

bobbybee wrote:


Those take like 4 bytes.

Yes, multiple-byte characters are my concern. They could fool it into thinking it's over 500 characters.

They could force everything into UTF-32, and make the limit 2000

I'm not sure how practical that is.

Python might not have this problem of measuring bytes instead of characters, but i don't know.

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#12 2012-05-24 08:47:26

Mokat
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Re: comment is not over 500 characters

This happens to me too. It's really annoying....


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#13 2012-05-24 20:56:38

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Re: comment is not over 500 characters

this is annoying


It's probably gonna be mainly me who posts here (Mokat) so I'll just put this: http://i.imgur.com/U9puQ.png

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#14 2012-05-24 21:18:24

Mokat
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Re: comment is not over 500 characters

invincible2 wrote:

this is annoying


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#15 2012-05-25 03:07:34

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Re: comment is not over 500 characters

I believe that the counter basically just guesses how long it is


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#16 2012-05-25 17:02:59

3sal2
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Re: comment is not over 500 characters

Non-Latin characters confuse Firefox and give that result. Or, maybe it lost accuracy somewhere.


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#17 2012-05-25 17:06:46

3sal2
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Re: comment is not over 500 characters

They probably mean 500 bytes, not characters. Non-Latin characters take up several bytes. If there are enough of them, they can overflow the comment character limit. Maybe commenting was disabled while you were writing it. That can confuse Firefox and give an incorrect error message.


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#18 2012-05-25 17:08:53

777w
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Re: comment is not over 500 characters

3sal2 wrote:

They probably mean 500 bytes, not characters. Non-Latin characters take up several bytes. If there are enough of them, they can overflow the comment character limit. Maybe commenting was disabled while you were writing it. That can confuse Firefox and give an incorrect error message.

but it always says "characters," not bytes

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#19 2012-05-28 10:06:53

3sal2
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Re: comment is not over 500 characters

777w is talking about it. Many people think it's 500 characters, not 500 bytes. Remember, there are characters taking up several bytes. HTML measures string length in bytes, not characters. And although the string length is 479 characters, it's more than 500 bytes. Symbols like < and > confuse HTML and causes it to reject the comment, but Firefox can't read that error message and reports the overflowing comment message. In computer science, a character is one byte. That just proves that it's not a bug, or at least a bug in Firefox.


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#20 2012-05-28 10:10:01

777w
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Re: comment is not over 500 characters

3sal2 wrote:

777w is talking about it. Many people think it's 500 characters, not 500 bytes. Remember, there are characters taking up several bytes. HTML measures string length in bytes, not characters. And although the string length is 479 characters, it's more than 500 bytes. Symbols like < and > confuse HTML and causes it to reject the comment, but Firefox can't read that error message and reports the overflowing comment message. In computer science, a character is one byte. That just proves that it's not a bug, or at least a bug in Firefox.

maybe they should change the message to "comment cannot be over 500 bytes" although nobody would actually know what that means

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#21 2012-05-30 20:33:11

3sal2
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Re: comment is not over 500 characters

Maybe "Comment cannot be over 500 bytes (characters)". In computer science, a character is one byte, like 01101101 for m, and 01000001 for A. Not a bug, anyway.


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#22 2012-07-02 21:44:26

game99999
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Re: comment is not over 500 characters

i tried doing this V on google chrome and it is 378ish characters but when i posted it it said it was over 500 i think it is the bytes and not characters.


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#23 2012-11-04 15:00:16

MossKitty
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Re: comment is not over 500 characters

this is really annoying.


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