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technoguyx wrote:

Yeah, I actually think the solo might be too much of a bother. Since the chorus progression repeats twice right now, the first could be the actual chorus, and the second a fading out instrumental chorus.

I think my two song ideas are finally complete enough to post, though far away from actual completion.

The first one is meant to be a smooth, yet flowing, and fast-paced song, with many 7th chords.    Originally written for one of my many failed irl bands, I intended to sing it but I never wrote any lyrics to it, but I think the song would fit a baritone voice rather than a bass. I think a clean electric guitar would fit the song better than an acoustic.

The second one is a pretty catchy, even funky song with an emotional, arpeggiated acoustic guitar intro, I loved how the "catchy" part of it turned out, but I find the transition between the intro and the rest of the song needs work, currently it's a rather sudden tempo and instrumentation change. The lead guitar sounds much better on an actual electric guitar, as usual.

Great! I'll be sure to check those out.

I finished my song I posted yesterday in the meantime. Here it is. I changed the ending to a fade on a variation of chords with a guitar solo.

About 'Out of the Possible', the idea sounds good instead of a solo. That should work out.

technoguyx wrote:

hdarken wrote:

One of the people who was in the band told the audience about it and they shared one of the projects to everyone there.

Oh, cool :3 I think I know who it is, considering he "was" in the band and mentioned being at MIT Scratch Day in the forums. Big thanks to him. 

Oh, that's cool    Who was it?

Sorry I haven't recorded yet...I've been mulling over the song in my head a lot...and I can't seem to think of a good solo idea. Do you want it bluesy, or kind of light, or what?

I'm talking about DIY's song. What's confusing me is that the chord progression is really major ( I, IV, V ), but the melody is in a minor (because of the C natural)...so, normally I'd go straight to blues improv, but it's not really a bluesy song...

Any tips?

technoguyx wrote:

Oh stupid me, I always forget the permissions. Done, should be visible to everyone now.

DIY wrote:

I finished my song I posted yesterday in the meantime. Here it is. I changed the ending to a fade on a variation of chords with a guitar solo.

That'll be one long guitar solo, it seems. 

Yup, it will be!    I could help out there to throw in some ideas.

We could have solos by you, me and hpotter.

hpotter134 wrote:

technoguyx wrote:

hdarken wrote:

One of the people who was in the band told the audience about it and they shared one of the projects to everyone there.

Oh, cool :3 I think I know who it is, considering he "was" in the band and mentioned being at MIT Scratch Day in the forums. Big thanks to him. 

Oh, that's cool    Who was it?

Sorry I haven't recorded yet...I've been mulling over the song in my head a lot...and I can't seem to think of a good solo idea. Do you want it bluesy, or kind of light, or what?

I'm talking about DIY's song. What's confusing me is that the chord progression is really major ( I, IV, V ), but the melody is in a minor (because of the C natural)...so, normally I'd go straight to blues improv, but it's not really a bluesy song...

Any tips?

I'd go with what techno said. The song is made bluesy by the light chord progression. The song really isn't A minor, it's A major, but I do understand the melody confusion. Could you come up with a good bluesy solo by this weekend? Thanks.

Last edited by DIY (2012-05-20 22:34:16)

DIY wrote:

Could you come up with a good bluesy solo by this weekend? Thanks.

Ok, I grabbed my brother's guitar and jammed something out. What do you think?

I am assured, what is it already was discussed, use search in a forum.

Yes, really. So happens. We can communicate on this theme. Here or in PM.

DIY wrote:

TeadsTetRam wrote:

Yes, really. So happens. We can communicate on this theme. Here or in PM.

Quit the spam. You're not making any sense.

It's a spambot, it's not going to listen to you :L

LolaRose1892 wrote:

BREAKING NEWS!

Guys, I think I MAY have found a way to get better sound quality! It will take me a LITTLE bit more time to get it all sorted, but it should come out better?
I'll try a sample and I'll sing a bit of Out of the Possible, recording it the old way and this new trial way. Then you guys can see which is better? Might take me a little while to do this though, as I have a HUGE exam every day this week, and then THREE per DAY every day next week!

I probably should be revising right now actually, but meh, I'll do okay anyway. I tend to have a pretty good memory. 

Sounds good, can't wait to listen to this solution you possibly figured out. Seems like we're all loaded with exams this time of the year. 

And since you intend to record the song soon, I really think we should figure out some lyrics for the chorus. Here's what I had so far:

I got to get this out of me
I got to leave this living hell
I'm gonna speak up, spread out my word
Breaking this silence of biblical proportions

That, to me, sounds pretty forced and generic.    The chorus should be 4 verses of (more or less) the same meter as the first two ones. I was considering going with "I got to leave this living hell" as a definite line, but I've gotten warned for using the word before here. 

Last edited by technoguyx (2012-05-21 12:58:11)

hpotter134 wrote:

technoguyx wrote:

hdarken wrote:

One of the people who was in the band told the audience about it and they shared one of the projects to everyone there.

Oh, cool :3 I think I know who it is, considering he "was" in the band and mentioned being at MIT Scratch Day in the forums. Big thanks to him. 

Oh, that's cool    Who was it?

Sorry I haven't recorded yet...I've been mulling over the song in my head a lot...and I can't seem to think of a good solo idea. Do you want it bluesy, or kind of light, or what?

I'm talking about DIY's song. What's confusing me is that the chord progression is really major ( I, IV, V ), but the melody is in a minor (because of the C natural)...so, normally I'd go straight to blues improv, but it's not really a bluesy song...

Any tips?

It was Lellowsfuzz. No singer? Can I be one?

Last edited by ImagineIt (2012-05-21 16:19:14)

ImagineIt wrote:

No singer? Can I be one?

We do have one: LolaRose1892. Apparently the first post still doesn't show her as the vocalist.

Our song ideas, in an order that sounds good to me at least:

-Untitled, Opening (DIY)
-Untitled "funky" song (DIY)
-Untitled "smooth while not slow" song (technoguyx)
-"Out of the Possible" (technoguyx)
-Untitled, "masterpiece" (DIY) (I'd put it as the final or 2nd final song, but DIY wants it in the middle of the album.)
-Untitled "at first sad, catchy later" (technoguyx)
-"Flashback" (jslomba) (not sure if you approve of this yet, jslomba, but I feel like this song is worthy of being in this album)

That's 7 songs complete or near-complete songs. Woah, that was fast. ._. We can release a full-length album with these in Winter if we feel like it 

Notice that the album (in my mind) is pretty cheery at first, then changes to a sad mood (marked by the "smooth while not slow" song as transition) and then back to cheery again (marked by "first sad, catchy later"). This is obviously not a final order, I encourage you all to propose any changes to it.

Maybe we could put the "smooth while not slow" song, it doesn't sound like something to put early in the album. Maybe as album ending?

The "album opening" song also bothers me a bit, I don't really like it. A bit too plain and repetitive, it also ends a bit abruptly. Maybe it's the lack of lyrics, but I feel the album could still sound good starting straight with what is the second song in this list, the "funky" song in A.

Last edited by technoguyx (2012-05-21 20:45:16)

veggieman001 wrote:

DIY wrote:

TeadsTetRam wrote:

Yes, really. So happens. We can communicate on this theme. Here or in PM.

Quit the spam. You're not making any sense.

It's a spambot, it's not going to listen to you :L

Now what did I tell you about not posting here...? He/she hasn't posted since.

LolaRose1892 wrote:

BREAKING NEWS!

Guys, I think I MAY have found a way to get better sound quality! It will take me a LITTLE bit more time to get it all sorted, but it should come out better?
I'll try a sample and I'll sing a bit of Out of the Possible, recording it the old way and this new trial way. Then you guys can see which is better? Might take me a little while to do this though, as I have a HUGE exam every day this week, and then THREE per DAY every day next week!

I probably should be revising right now actually, but meh, I'll do okay anyway. I tend to have a pretty good memory. 

Oh, come on, I have my IGCSEs in progress (I have papers every day this week and the next, including one this afternoon) and I have recorded the parts for my complete songs. You all know that is the equivalent of O/Ls in UK, right?

Just kidding!    Yet with all my IGCSE papers, I'm managing just fine. I hope the recording quality will be good this time.

hpotter 134 will also have a go at it I suppose since techno and I have not yet decided on whom it will suit better.

Anyway, bonne chance pour votre examen de français!

[Yes, I do speak French!]

technoguyx wrote:

I got to get this out of me
I got to leave this living hell
I'm gonna speak up, spread out my word
Breaking this silence of biblical proportions

That, to me, sounds pretty forced and generic.    The chorus should be 4 verses of (more or less) the same meter as the first two ones. I was considering going with "I got to leave this living hell" as a definite line, but I've gotten warned for using the word before here. 

Hmm... yeah that could cause problems. It does sound a bit forceful like you said. I had a go at the lyrics myself, but since the meaning is vague, I couldn't make them fit a theme. Do you have a specific theme to the song?

jslomba wrote:

Hey DIY, can you please put links to all of the song ideas for our next album on the first post?

Alright, alright. You know I can't update the post with like seven songs overnight when I'm asleep. I did say I will do it today in one of my previous posts. 

Thanks techno for adding the links for me! 

technoguyx wrote:

Our song ideas, in an order that sounds good to me at least:

-Untitled, Opening (DIY)
-Untitled "funky" song (DIY)
-Untitled "smooth while not slow" song (technoguyx)
-"Out of the Possible" (technoguyx)
-Untitled, "masterpiece" (DIY) (I'd put it as the final or 2nd final song, but DIY wants it in the middle of the album.)
-Untitled "at first sad, catchy later" (technoguyx)
-"Flashback" (jslomba) (not sure if you approve of this yet, jslomba, but I feel like this song is worthy of being in this album)

That's 7 songs complete or near-complete songs. Woah, that was fast. ._. We can release a full-length album with these in Winter if we feel like it 

Notice that the album (in my mind) is pretty cheery at first, then changes to a sad mood (marked by the "smooth while not slow" song as transition) and then back to cheery again (marked by "first sad, catchy later"). This is obviously not a final order, I encourage you all to propose any changes to it.

Maybe we could put the "smooth while not slow" song, it doesn't sound like something to put early in the album. Maybe as album ending?

The "album opening" song also bothers me a bit, I don't really like it. A bit too plain and repetitive, it also ends a bit abruptly. Maybe it's the lack of lyrics, but I feel the album could still sound good starting straight with what is the second song in this list, the "funky" song in A.

Well, you see, the opening song is missing lyrics and the song 'ends abruptly' because of the minim. The end cannot be sustained unless I add an extra note with four more counts on Noteflight. Once the song is recorded, the instruments will be sustained at the end, so it won't end abruptly as on Noteflight. I still think it's best as the album opener since it has the opening drum solo, which with a little variation will be perfect to start off. It is very fast, less than two minutes, so it isn't all that repetitive. Songs are always better when recorded than the MIDI version, so this is no exception. It sounds great in my head.

We really can't decide upon an order now itself for the album. Once I share my other songs, and if you have some, we can then have the scores ready for all songs and decide which songs go best where.

It is strategic of a band or artist to usually put a good, lively song to start off (setting the stage for the rest to come), the best song(s) in the middle (in this case, my song on Am and maybe 'Out of the Possible', if you're OK with the position) and again a great closing song at the end. For an EP, the scenario is quite different. Since it is a short set of songs, bands traditionally tend to put their best song last, a great opener, and a gradual build-up towards the end. That is why I decided to put Reload at the end (seeing it was the most polished, with great guitar work by hpotter). This usually tends to be the approach of bands and the order of songs is very important as it can make the difference between gatting the listeners hooked or not.

We should definitely set the bar of release to winter because during holiday season, there will be much more people with time to check out our songs. It is a strategic release date. With seven songs (and several more of my songs coming up) this should be easy to complete by then.

hpotter134 wrote:

Ah...sorry about that.  This should work

No worries, I located it already. 

By the way, do you think it is possible to change your sig to the Crimson Love one? The WIBY one is quite outdated now.

Last edited by DIY (2012-05-22 00:15:48)

Obviously a definite order can't be decided now, especially when there might be more songs to come. It was just to give us an idea of how the album might sound.

I know the theme of Out of the Possible is really vague, and that's intentional, as it's a generic sad song.    Should I pick a specific theme for it, I'd say it's about being socially awkward, feeling guilty of causing this status, and attempting to escape it, eventually giving up in doing so at the end of the song ("What's the point now? There is none. What could I do? Live alone. (...) I'll have to cower out as to not confront it.").

These IGCSEs don't look much harder than the tests I'm given here in Chile (apparently, only few private schools use the IGCSE system), though still somewhat more complete. Education in Chile stinks.