Scratch

coolhogs wrote:

No, that has the stencyl logo on everything. 

Doesnt mean you cant learn it... just learn it, not use it for life...

coolhogs wrote:

I kind of want to jump in to something advanced, but I kind of want to go slowly up...

Well, those are two conflicting desires there.    My advice? Start off slow. If you're teaching yourself, more advanced languages will just be overwhelming. You can always try a simpler language to get yourself used to more advanced concepts. I know it's been mentioned here already, but I'd give Python a shot. It's not really something you write major programs in (more of an extension language really) but it's easy to learn and can can employ object-oriented programming concepts.

I use python

The first language I learned was JavaScript.  Though you'll need some HTML background too, JavaScript is a nice stepping-stone for a few reasons:

- only one type of variable to be concerned with (can store strings, arrays, integers, floats, etc.)
- syntax similar to many advanced programming languages
- missing one semi-colon won't break the program (usually)
- you can program on any computer with a simple text editor
- doesn't require compiling
- getting graphics to work is relatively easy (I still can figure out textures in openGL  )

If you want to make games/animations using JavaScript, I recommend using the HTML5 canvas element.  W3schools is a great way to learn about JavaScript, but I'm sure there are plenty (myself included) who would be able and willing to help too 

Last edited by MoreGamesNow (2012-05-18 20:02:37)

mythbusteranimator wrote:

Is there any language that is like scratch, except maybe a little harder?

BYOB. It's basically a mod of Scratch that lets you make your own blocks and I think has some more advanced concepts. The layout is almost identical.

SJRCS_011 wrote:

luiysia wrote:

mythbusteranimator wrote:

Is there any language that is like scratch, except maybe a little harder?

BYOB. It's basically a mod of Scratch that lets you make your own blocks and I think has some more advanced concepts. The layout is almost identical.

Then, if you think that is too easy, try Panther.  After that, you'll probably end up doing VB.NET, Java, Python, PHP, JS, or one of the C families.  All depends on what type of programming you want to do
But yeah, try BYOB, bu there aren't many scratch-related languages ou t there.

Don't try PHP too soon, it's a very weird language. I learned JS first (although that's also very weird), but only after learning some VB and AutoIT.

Last edited by jvvg (2012-05-18 22:39:36)

I know it's been said before, but right now I'm learning PHP. It's not exactly a programming language, but I think it's a good step up from Scratch 

Plus, you can run it on iPhone/iPod/Computer!

jvvg wrote:

SJRCS_011 wrote:

luiysia wrote:

BYOB. It's basically a mod of Scratch that lets you make your own blocks and I think has some more advanced concepts. The layout is almost identical.

Then, if you think that is too easy, try Panther.  After that, you'll probably end up doing VB.NET, Java, Python, PHP, JS, or one of the C families.  All depends on what type of programming you want to do
But yeah, try BYOB, bu there aren't many scratch-related languages ou t there.

Don't try PHP too soon, it's a very weird language. I learned JS first (although that's also very weird), but only after learning some VB and AutoIT.

Not really weird. It was actually the first "real" language I learned.  The syntax is very similar to Java, actually
From all the "public Main(){}" stuff, to just "function _construct() {}" is very similar

jvvg wrote:

Don't try PHP too soon, it's a very weird language. I learned JS first (although that's also very weird), but only after learning some VB and AutoIT.

At least it has "if() { }" if statements, unlike python 

slinger wrote:

muppetds wrote:

slinger wrote:

Scratch -> Bizarre -> ????
I recommend learning about three programming languages 

If you plan on becoming a professional programmer though
Its better to learn more than just 3

No. It's better to learn 3. Then you actually learn them and spend more time in them.

well it depends on what you actually want to do in your future

SJRCS_011 wrote:

jvvg wrote:

SJRCS_011 wrote:

Then, if you think that is too easy, try Panther.  After that, you'll probably end up doing VB.NET, Java, Python, PHP, JS, or one of the C families.  All depends on what type of programming you want to do
But yeah, try BYOB, bu there aren't many scratch-related languages ou t there.

Don't try PHP too soon, it's a very weird language. I learned JS first (although that's also very weird), but only after learning some VB and AutoIT.

Not really weird. It was actually the first "real" language I learned.  The syntax is very similar to Java, actually
From all the "public Main(){}" stuff, to just "function _construct() {}" is very similar

Yeah, but PHP is weird in other ways.
Most languages are either procedural or object-oriented. PHP is hybrid.
In PHP, you can put variables in strings (which is very weird).
And, my favorite weird part, you can start and stop code.

PHP is not a normal language at all. It is very weird.

I'm looking into Panther or Python.

Last edited by mythbusteranimator (2012-05-19 10:51:44)