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NeighbourhoodSniper wrote:

calebxy wrote:

NeighbourhoodSniper wrote:

A response that will cause a debate is crossing the line, saying something that inclines people to argue over something like religion or politics is crossing the line.

But he was just stating facts. What he said isn't (or shouldn't) be the sort of thing that someone could argue about.

So as long as it's a fact it's ok?

Facts can still start up arguments, infact, most arguments are started with a fact.

As a matter of fact, this right here is an argument/debate. calebxy is trying to explain to you what happened, and you, then decide to argue his every response. If you don't like religion, the Bible, or Christians in particular, okay then, but you don't need to start arguments with someone over it. Just listen to what calebxy had to say, as that explains pretty much the whole situation, and then be done with it. People like you, willing to argue every point like this, are what got religion banned in the first place. If you don't have something respectful, nice, and/or constructive to say, then don't say anything please. 

No, that's not what I said, more of an agree to disagree attitude.
Besides that, I told them I would keep it civil, they don't need to worry. I was about to add something else to the first post to promise I'd delete the whole thing if it became a real problem, but they shut it down before I could do that.    I meant it though, and it was fine, until I was misunderstood and shut down so they could discuss it. I'm still waiting for their answer, but until I get it, please be respectful.

I am being respectful, you just don't agree with me.

The topic is hard to moderate because it's so easy to cross the line, deleting the topic every time someone starts a debate is a stupid idea too, so much work to put in to discuss a book.

Since topics about cooking go in the MaC forum, do topics about eating and consuming food go on this one?

@Bible thread discussion - I personally think that before the thread became a debate, it was not a problem. People could discuss what they had read in the Bible, and recommend books to read in it. However, I agree that Scratch should not be a huge debate. Perhaps if everyone stopped arguing in the thread, we could reopen it.

*DISCLOSURE*
I am a Christian, so I am biased.

technoboy10 wrote:

@Bible thread discussion - I personally think that before the thread became a debate, it was not a problem. People could discuss what they had read in the Bible, and recommend books to read in it. However, I agree that Scratch should not be a huge debate. Perhaps if everyone stopped arguing in the thread, we could reopen it.

*DISCLOSURE*
I am a Christian, so I am biased.

But no one was arguing in it. Sonicfan12p simply posted something which Paddle2See felt could have led to a debate.

I understand the percentage of chance on this issue of it becoming a debate is higher than colors, I was using that to illustrate a point. Anyway, the point still stands that anything COULD cause a debate, and it also stands that whether or not something is provocative is all in the eyes of the reader. What's provocative for one person is different for another. Anyway, does anyone actually read all of the posts, or do they just try to get the gist of it before making comments? I have been misinterpreted repeatedly! Anyway, the most negative comments I got were merely stating that it might cause a debate. We had a nice conversation going on. But anyway, it takes two to argue, all I have to do is say I'm not going to argue with you, and the argument stops there, which is what I will do now. The facts have been stated, repeated, misinterpreted, reexplained, and so on, and I've had enough. I would appreciate it if we could all leave this to the Scratch Team right now. They said they would discuss it, and I would like no further comments on this issue until It's resolved. Thank you, and lets get back to helping the Community!
P.S. calebxy, I really appreciate your attempts to help me explain this thank you for all your help! 

Last edited by sonicfan12p (2012-05-18 13:31:55)

sonicfan12p wrote:

I understand the percentage of chance on this issue of it becoming a debate is higher than colors, I was using that to illustrate a point. Anyway, the point still stands that anything COULD cause a debate, and it also stands that whether or not something is provocative is all in the eyes of the reader. What's provocative for one person is different for another. Anyway, does anyone actually read all of the posts, or do they just try to get the gist of it before making comments? I have been misinterpreted repeatedly! Anyway, the most negative comments I got were merely stating that it might cause a debate. We had a nice conversation going on. But anyway, it takes two to argue, all I have to do is say I'm not going to argue with you, and the argument stops there, which is what I will do now. The facts have been stated, repeated, misinterpreted, reexplained, and so on, and I've had enough. I would appreciate it if we could all leave this to the Scratch Team right now. They said they would discuss it, and I would like no further comments on this issue until It's resolved. Thank you, and lets get back to helping the Community!
P.S. calebxy, I really appreciate your attempts to help me explain this thank you for all your help! 

No problem.    I want the topic opened again probably just as much as you.

I did, and it was the reason for me posting the other comment, but this argument/debate is over. We will now leave this problem to the scratch team, and leave the topic we're on to it's original purpose.

NeighbourhoodSniper wrote:

calebxy wrote:

technoboy10 wrote:

@Bible thread discussion - I personally think that before the thread became a debate, it was not a problem. People could discuss what they had read in the Bible, and recommend books to read in it. However, I agree that Scratch should not be a huge debate. Perhaps if everyone stopped arguing in the thread, we could reopen it.

*DISCLOSURE*
I am a Christian, so I am biased.

But no one was arguing in it. Sonicfan12p simply posted something which Paddle2See felt could have led to a debate.

That would just cause an argument, it's like waving around a lighter near a spillage of petrol then saying that the people who tackled you did it unfairly because it wasn't starting a fire.

Although this is a weird metaphor, I kinda agree 

veggieman001 wrote:

NeighbourhoodSniper wrote:

calebxy wrote:

But no one was arguing in it. Sonicfan12p simply posted something which Paddle2See felt could have led to a debate.

That would just cause an argument, it's like waving around a lighter near a spillage of petrol then saying that the people who tackled you did it unfairly because it wasn't starting a fire.

Although this is a weird metaphor, I kinda agree 

oh i see :O
it works, in a way

Last edited by 777w (2012-05-18 17:08:09)

calebxy wrote:

The Scratch Team still hasn't said anything. 

patience friend, they have not only 30 forum sections to moderate but 2539706 projects

calebxy wrote:

777w wrote:

calebxy wrote:

The Scratch Team still hasn't said anything. 

patience friend, they have not only 30 forum sections to moderate but 2539706 projects

Wow! When did we reach 2 million projects?

Quite a while ago, I remember lurking around xmas and we hit 2m I think.